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Are_we_sure ago

Pizza is the Symbol For Intn'l Pedophilia.

This is false.

MolochHunter ago

I'm inclined to agree, in a qualified sense. The aggregate evidence does not appear to preclude the code 'Pizza' as used for simply 'Prostitute' - generally, human trafficked prostitute not in the vocation of her own volition.

To say 'were going to have pizza for an hour' perfectly implies a session with a prostitute who may or may not be a minor.

My reading of the evidence is that only when it is referred to specifically as 'Cheese Pizza' - CP = CHILD prostitute or child pornography can you be 100% certain that they are referring to minors

Its like in that Obama '$65k pizza and hotdogs' email - does anyone really believe a private whitehouse party - even of the Pedostocracy - would be so indiscrete , and would only EXCLUSIVELY have sex slave children?

A party like that would easily have numerous male and female ADULT prostitutes (pizza/dogs) who would be socialising as part of their duties, of which a subset MAY be minors hidden in the back rooms for those 'special clients' or blackmail targets

thats my read, anyway

Are_we__sure ago

Its like in that Obama '$65k pizza and hotdogs' email - does anyone really believe a private whitehouse party - even of the Pedostocracy - would be so indiscrete , and would only EXCLUSIVELY have sex slave children?

Yeah, this actually refers to regular old pizza. And the guy talking about $65,000 doesn't know what he is talking about and is repeating gossip from right wing blogs.

The $65,000 hot dog party guy? Not a White House insider. A guy who worked in Texas with no first hand knowledge of the White House and certainly not an Obama insider, he hated Obama. AND he just repeating a fake story that was going around on the right wing blogs and talk shows. After Obama had the pizza chef of a St Louis Pizzeria come to the White House to make pizza, right wing blogs started saying he wasted a bunch of taxpayer money just to eat pizza. (Actually the pizza chef bought the ingredients himself.)

https://twitter.com/TinaTerrell63/status/1507199272 https://twitter.com/ImADirtyBubble/status/1543687256 https://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/13226-obamas-pizza-party-at-taxpayers-tab/ http://web.archive.org/web/20090414041936/http://minx.cc/?post=285771 http://web.archive.org/web/20090414090535/http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2009/04/10/right-wing-slams-barack-obama-for-ordering-pizza-really

(Also note how nobody lost their mind and started claiming pizza = pedophilia. That had to wait for the psyops on social media to mature. In fact, read this article about the St Louis pizza guy all the way to end to blow your mind. https://www.stlmag.com/dining/Pi-at-The-White-House-on-Fox-and-Friends-on-Great-Day-St-Louis/))

MolochHunter ago

Y'know what?

Youve convinced me. It checks out, the daily mail article says pizza chef coming in , April 2009 (it says missouri not chicago, but thats no biggie), the stlmag.com article says April 2009, the Wikileaks $65k email from May 2009 says 'not long ago' it checks out. Gives a plausible, innocent explanation

and that being the case, the 'dreaming of ur Hawaiian HotDog stand' is reasonably innocuous.

I did do a post about a year ago saying the evidence we had implicating Obama was pretty thin https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1500510

Have you ever done a post yourself to knock that lead out of contention, rather than just lurking and replying? Its worthy.

Are_we__sure ago

Cheers.

it says missouri not chicago

Yeah the first contoversy over this was from Chicago pizza makers upset Obama chose a St Louis place, a place that makes deep dish pie, Chicago's signature style.

the 'dreaming of ur Hawaiian HotDog stand' is reasonably innocuous.

It is. Podesta is a cook (There's even video of him cooking the northrn Italian dish pasta with walnut sauce on the web ) and he's a workaholic. He dreams of a low pressure retirement in paradise, ot even a restaurant. A hot dog stand. What's easier to cook than hot dogs?

Have you ever done a post yourself to knock that lead out of contention, rather than just lurking and replying? Its worthy.

I can't make new posts. When you explain the truth to folks, you get downvoated and then can't post.

the evidence we had implicating Obama was pretty thin. All the evidence is tissue thin. There's just about no support for the original pizzagate claims. I haven't seen any evidence Clinton met Alefantis before this broke.

There's zero evidence tying Clinton to Silsby. I debunked that several times. There's no evidence anyone knew of Silsby before her arrest.

MolochHunter ago

1) no amount of pizza costs $65k 2) no 'takeaway' food would be sourced from interstate, thats a preposterous suggestion 3) no external food gets into Whitehouse for security purposes, poisoning, etc.

THEY ARE TALKING IN CODE, clear as day. I cant say definitively what they code is in that particular email, but to say they are talking in the literal about Pizza from interstate for $65k. ? Fatuous

Are_we__sure ago

Hi,

I posted the real evidence. You did not engage with it. You are still engaging with the fake $65,000 pizza story. A story that didn't happen.

Let me post the real facts again. When the story ran that Obama was having a pizza chef COME TO THE WHITE HOUSE, right wing blogs tried to come up with a way to make Obama look bad about it. They tried to say it was Obama acted entitled flying a pizza guy in just to make pizza for him.

Here's an original article on the guy going to the White House to cook pizza. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1168940/Obamas-fly-chef-860-miles-White-House--just-make-pizza.html

Here's a right wing blog using that article to try to make Obama look bad

http://web.archive.org/web/20090414041936/http://minx.cc:80/?post=285771

If you are gonna fly a chef nearly 2000 miles round trip to make you some specialty pizzas, shouldn't you have gone the whole nine yards and asked for arugula?

So I don't want to see you lecturing the CEO's of bailout companies about using private jets to petition the government, when your guy is jetting dudes across the country to make him a few slices of 'Za.

So this among the birth of the meme, Private planes, money being spent just for pizza. From the tweets I posted

Obama flies in a pizza chef from Chicago! Tax payer expense I'm sure!

Obama wanted pizza & flew out a pizza chef 2 the white house! Damn what else r we gona pay 4!

It was a fake right wing scandal and meme. Taxpayer money wasted on PIZZA! You know what they called the scandal?

Pizzagate, they called in pizzagate. In 2009.

Have the nasty emails and web comments subsided? Not 100%. That's one reason I'm going on FOX tomorrow is to try and squelch >#what they are now calling PizzaGate.

So your response is not engaging in the real story. It's engaging in a fake scandal that a bunch of taxpayer money was spent on pizza. To your comments.

1) no amount of pizza costs $65k

Yup. The guy Texas had no idea whatsoever what he was talking about. He was repeating a fake story. The truth is the pizza cost the White House $0 as the pizza maker donated the food and his time. He was visiting Washington, DC on business. He flew commercial. It's nonsense

2) no 'takeaway' food would be sourced from interstate, thats a preposterous suggestion

No takeaway food was involved whatsoever. The chef went to the White House and made pizza. It's not unusual to have a visiting chef at the white house, at least not during the last adminstration.

https://www.today.com/food/bobby-flay-cooking-obama-chinese-president-was-great-honor-6C10272298

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/africa/05/25/marcus.samuelsson.celebrity.chef/index.html

THEY ARE TALKING IN CODE, clear as day. I cant say definitively what they code is in that particular email, but to say they are talking in the literal about Pizza from interstate for $65k. ? Fatuous

There's no THEY. There's a guy. A guy who lives in Texas and has no connection to the White House. A guy who in fact, hates Obama. A guy who is repeated second hand information. And he's not talking in code, he's repeated a fake story he heard.

Are_we__sure ago

I'm inclined to agree, in a qualified sense. The aggregate evidence does not appear to preclude the code 'Pizza' as used for simply 'Prostitute' - generally, human trafficked prostitute not in the vocation of her own volition.

To say 'were going to have pizza for an hour' perfectly implies a session with a prostitute who may or may not be a minor.

This straight up false. And have pizza for an hour doesn't imply that in any way. Let alone perfectly. You have to read A TON of stuff into that email to get anywhere close to that.

My reading of the evidence is that only when it is referred to specifically as 'Cheese Pizza' - CP = CHILD prostitute or child pornography can you be 100% certain that they are referring to minors

CP was never used to refer to prostitue or child prostitute. The connection to pedophlia comes through the term CP used online. People on 4 chan would ask people to post CP or child porn. As a joke people starting posting other things with CP, like copier paper or Captain Picard or choclate pudding or cheese pizza. Cheese Pizza was the one that stuck. So in this case Pizza would be Porn. Also John Podesta never used the phrase "cheese pizza" whatsoever. So your claim is flat out false.

And if you take an honest unbiased look at the pizza for an hour email, it's very clear what the meaning is. Take a look at the email thread and read it as it happened.

Tony Podesta sends an email asking John and Mary if they are free for dinner on the 12th or 13th becuase he is going to be back in town those days.

Mary says she can't do the 12th and JP has surgery the 13th. She then asks how long will you be back

TP says he's back on the 12th, but might leave again and then asks if they get together on "MLK day?" That's Jan 20th that year.

JP says that might work

TP then says

Mary not free Would love to get a pizza for an hour? Or come over *

He's saying if Mary can't make it that day and we are both busy, let's do something quick and easy.

*There's another email thread on Jan 12th. Tony Podesta lands in Washington and goes over to John's.

There's a lot of other email where Tony asks if John has time for a phone call or a coffee or to talk.

Shizy ago

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Are_we__sure ago

You know I'm right, don't you? You can't attack the evidence can you?

Shizy ago

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Are_we__sure ago

Because you never argue the evidence, you because you know that you can't.