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Vindicator ago

@hojuruku: Once again, I have to insist that you honor our submission rules. Every major claim must be sourced. Another way of putting that is research posts must not make any claims that aren't supported by linked evidence. You write:

  • bigbrothersbigsisters.com.au dating site for gay men and little boys
  • gave a character reference for one of their own homosexual board members done for sodomizing little Thai boys and child porn
  • who was a gay crown prosecutor
  • who helped remove the gay panic defense that allows children who kill gay men trying to rape them avoid jail for lawful self-defense.
  • This law is needed when we have gay judges saying it's all the child's fault

That's five unsourced claims in just paragraph three. There are many more in this post as well. If you don't want to present carefully sourced research, that's fine -- but it has to go in v/pizzagatewhatever, not here. I'm going to give this the edit flair to see if you can clean this up today. Maybe others can help you identify and find links for the other unsourced claims peppered throughout this post.

Going forward, please stop ignoring Rule 2! This is the sixth submission you've made since @kevdude unbanned you a week ago that ignored our submission guidelines:

hojuruku ago

you got an upvote. i want everyone to see my reply and give you a second opinion on it for 24 hours. Don't insta-delete this thread or I'll loose faith in this forum when I try hard do it right and still I get bogus complains when all your questions were substantiated in the OP.

You are trying very hard flagging 3 of my posts in the space of 5 mins. You are a real keyboard warrior i thought I typed fast. I wont screenshot my notifications others can see the dates.

Without anger I refute everything you said above. Everyone can clearly see all things you doubt have been proven have been proven by links in the OP.

Vindicator ago

hojuruku, I am not trying to censor you. The exact opposite, in fact. Your approach to writing has the effect of burying your essential message and valuable research under layers of non-essential name calling. I get that you are pissed at the corrupt system. Shit, dude, WE ALL ARE! That's why we are here trying to eviscerate them with the facts. If you would rather rant without supporting links, we've got a subverse for that. But here in the research sub, we want to stick with what can be sourced.

You are trying very hard flagging 3 of my posts in the space of 5 mins. You are a real keyboard warrior i thought I typed fast. I wont screenshot my notifications others can see the dates.

Yes, after flairing several of your posts since @kevdude unbanned you, and explaining what you needed to do to post here, then seeing this thread today where you ignored everything we have asked, I looked at your submissions and saw this was a pattern. Several of your posts were downvoted to the point where I did not see them on the board during my shift. So I left a comment, flaired, etc. as needed this morning. Users expect mods here to be consistent. That is what I am doing.

Don't insta-delete this thread

I flaired it, and hope you will take advantage of the 24 hour opportunity to either provide linked sourced for all of the unsourced claims or edit the post to remove them and just write what you have evidence for.

hojuruku ago

so it's a secret 24 hour notice and no tag on the post subject line so I think everything ok and it's gets deleted?

And when you do ad that tag please ad a new comment saying you did it and my response to you to prove the claims you say weren't substantiated in the OP actually were and that the person saying they weren't substantiated lacked the comprehension because they didn't click on all the links.

If you clicked on any of the links before flagging it you couldn't have wrote what you wrote. It's ok. Mods are swamped. I criticized OTO child sex cult 24 hour notice censorship on another thread you reacted damn quickly. But please for you sake don't make your stand on this thread taking it down. It will be worse than @Millenial_Falcon all over again. I don't need to threaten you, the truth speaks for itself.

Nobody wants a war and more factional deterioration of pizzagate again. We are still recovering from the last mod who censored too much.

What I am saying sir is pick your battles carefully. There is no way you can come out of this without looking like you have in-proprietary. You haven't crossed the line yet - I'm asking you please don't and confirm all claims you claimed were unproven were really infact proven based on the links in the OP and the fact if you google "big brothers big sisters" pedophilia only cases of boys being raped under Jewish care comes up for the first few pages of google search results. If heterosexual pedophiles as 98% of the population who do 66% of the abuse are 90% of the pedophile population you would why is there such a cluster of gay pedophiles in Big Brothers Big Sisters eh? You think more stories of big brothers big sisters raping girls too would come up not just gay men in the news?

Vindicator ago

so it's a secret 24 hour notice and no tag on the post subject line so I think everything ok and it's gets deleted?

And when you do ad that tag please ad a new comment saying you did it

There's nothing secret about it, Hojuruku. I never leave a flair without a comment. Not one time in the entire year+ I've been modding. I not only comment, I usually comment with a ping to the OP so the notification shows up in both his Submission Replies and Comment Mentions.

hojuruku ago

I already reminded you all claims you say weren't substantiated were done so in the OP.

Then you say after doing that you put it on a 24 hour notice to prove what is already proven?

That means you want to delete this right? Did you read my reply proving all the things you claim were unsubstantiated in the OP were in fact substantiated in the OP.

I ask another moderator take over and remove the hold or you tell me again what facts haven't been substantiated, now that I told you to look again.

It is highly unlikely that you clicked on any links in the OP before messaging me saying things were substantiated. Also the time between your previous report was very low.

Will you admit that you flagged 3 of my posts in <15 mins immediately after I questioned your judgment on another thread about Alister Crowley and the OTO as PAYBACK or at the very least some kind of knee jerk reaction that got you thinking of me at the very least the subconcious level. This thread is NOT about you. It's about Jewish Care, Gay men and little boys.

Remove the hold and I'll keep sharing more relevant materials.

think- ago

@hojuruku: You can see the flair now. Please take @Vindicator's edit requirements seriously.

We have the same edit requirements for everybody on the board. You might want to study the rules in the sidebar before doing new posts. If you should continue to ignore the rules, your posts will be flaired, and you risk a new ban. Not for the content you post, but for ignoring the rules.

I would like to add that it is not very polite to simply refuse the edits @Vindicator asked you to make.

@kevdude

hojuruku ago

All claims that @vindicator claims are not proven are in fact proven in the OP and the links in the OP.

I have answered him. After I said that he said YOU STILL HAVE TO PROVE TO ME AFTER I WENT THROUGH HIS BULLET POINTS PRETENDING HE DIDN'T SEE MY RESPONSE

Anyone who sees this post will prove it. Vindicator must say what is still not proven now that I satisfied his request.

The only thing not proven is the dating site for gay men and boys. Google shows most "big brothers big sister" pedophilia google results are gay - same for pedophile etc so I stand by that claim. I refute all things @Vindicator says is not proven ARE IN FACT PROVEN and his report was rushed right of the back of deleting another 2 threads after I questionined his judgment censoring an OTO related post from @BabalonWorking

CC @kevdude

SO Please all TELL ME AGAIN - after my response to vindicator WHAT STILL ISN'T PROVEN IN THE OP?

Anyone here who clicks on all links in the OP can see all claims are backed up.

@Vindicator - say again - i refuted all your claims. Which ones do you stand by after I explained to you how they were proven in the OP.

Vindicator ago

Will you admit that you flagged 3 of my posts in <15 mins immediately after I questioned your judgment on another thread about Alister Crowley and the OTO as PAYBACK or at the very least some kind of knee jerk reaction that got you thinking of me at the very least the subconcious level. This thread is NOT about you. It's about Jewish Care, Gay men and little boys.

Here's how it went down, H. I read this thread, got to paragraph three, realized you were taking advantage of our leniency writing sloppily sourced posts, and then went to look at how many other posts you'd ignored the rules in, or had been warned about and corrected to see how much you were doing this. I did not look at your comments in anyone else's posts at all. I commented in the posts I found of yours that failed to honor the community ruleset so that you would know what you were doing wrong, in hopes that you will change your approach.

hojuruku ago

If you want formatting then I need to remove characters from the post and detract from it to re-arrange it. Tell me when you upped the character limit and I will tidy up this post. Until then there is nothing I can do except move the location of the http links around for better feng sui. Is that what this whole cluster#$234 censorship request is about? The distance from the http links to prove the claim from the text that says it's true?

think- ago

@hojuruku, you can easily remove the first five lines of your text. Then you'll be able to add the links @Vindicator requested.

Seriously PLEASE - consider TACTICAL retreat. Delete all your comments here I will Delete all mine. This never happened. Just walk away please.

@hojuruku: This is not a battle. We, the mods, are simply doing our work. If you don't adhere to the rules, your posts will be flaired. It's as simple as that.

@Vindicator @kevdude @GreenDell144