OK I am making a new thread for this because 1: the last thread died and 2: it's discussion-worthy.
I am responding to @AreWeSure, who disputes the Silsby connection and is probably a shill, but will give the benefit of doubt.
Maccoby wrote a book about Silsby's boss
This I hadn't heard of. Any link.
So I did a bit of timeline and here's what I got:
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Here it lays out that many people involved in pizzagate come from HP in Boise, Idaho, including:
Laura Silsby, worked at HP Boise for 6 years in 1990s
Von Hansen, ex-Vice President at HP Boise, head of AlertSense, hired sex-dancers tied to Alefantis
James Hammons, co-founded PersonalShopper.com with Silsby, worked at HP Boise
Andy Moore, another child-stealer, worked in Distribution at HP Boise for 4 years (1991-1995), also PersonalShopper
And then comes Richard Hackborn, former HP Chairman, also was Vice President of HP Boise Printer Division from 1990, so literally Silsby's boss.
Michael Maccoby wrote a book about Hackborn: The Gamesman: The New Corporate Leaders
Described by Mr. Young as the "consummate strategist," Mr. Hackborn was profiled under the name Jack Wakefield in "The Gamesman," the 1976 book about corporate leaders by Michael Maccoby, who portrayed him as the model of a new breed of manager who views business as a game, adapts rapidly to change and excels at crafting strategies and motivating teams to win.
Is it safe to say that they might know each other, @AreWeSure?
Alefantis and Maccobys - close friends, lawyer
Maccoby and Silsby - connected through Friends of the Orphans and HP Boise (Maccoby wrote a book about Silsby's boss)
Trey McIntyre and Silsby - connected through Von Hansen (HP, Alertsense)
Trey McIntyre and Alefantis - connected through Comet Ping Pong (attended same party)
Kasky and Silsby - connected through Haiti adoption racket, FAC
all tied to clintons
Also a great refresher for Silsby/Alefantis for those who forgot~ recommended by @OhRutherfordBehave
Previous thread: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2478562
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Are_we_sure ago
This is false, I debunked this. This rests on the word of a conman and I showed that all the evidence shows the conman was lying.
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OMG. You think I'm going to decipher that?
Wow. Is that really the description you are going with? Do you really think that's an honest description? Do you think they were giving lap dances in the HP offices?
OK. This is more like it.
No. It's not safe to say this at all. First of all this book came out in 1977. The AP story about Silsby says she graduated in 1991 and "took a job with Hewlett Packard in Boise, working for six years in financing and Internet marketing positions." So no, I don't believe it's safe to say Maccoby knows Silsby. Is it possible yes, but this evidence points to it being highly unlikely.
For one, it points to Richard Hackborn being a corporate power in 1977.
Eventually he became head of the printer division, do you know how many employees would be in that division? Do you think he knew them all? Unlikely in my experience.
Can you even show that Hackborn knew who Silsby was? Let alone MacCoby?
Silsby was never high up at HP and she worked in finance and internet marketing. To me, Silsby's boss is who she directly reports to, the person who writes her employee evaluations, not someone much higher up in the organization. Is everyone in Boise in the same division? Was she in printers?
So MacCoby interviews Hackborn in 1977. 14 years later Silsby is hired at HP. There's no evidence that Hackborn knows about Silsby's tenure at HP, why would you think it's safe to say that MacCoby knows low level employees at Boise, HP? This doesn't make sense. It makes it highly unlikely in my Alefantis and Maccobys - close friends, lawyer. This feels like you doing nothing more 6 Degrees of Separation and not showing meaningful connections between people at all.
Let's look at your connections. Most of them do not prove the people knew Silsby. Six Degrees of Separations is a pretty useless standard of evidence. For example, I can be connected to Hillary Clinton in four links and to President Trump in 5 links, but I have never met them and they don't know who I am. In this a meaningful connection in any way? It is not.
Absolutely false, on Friends of Orphans. The connection through HP Boise is weak at best. It doesn't prove they know each other whatsoever, so it doesn't have much value
Again, do you think Silsby knows Trey McIntyre? Because this is not proof they do.
agreed.
agreed
this is pretty much nonsense. Are you claiming Silsby was part of an ongoing racket? Because the evidence is just a one time event in Jan 2010 that failed.
Also nobody has connected Kasky to Haiti. I saw that claimed, but the evidence was about something else entirely.
More nonsense. There's still no evidence that anyone in DC knew who Laura Silsby was prior to her being arrested in Haiti, as I have shown multiple times.
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2153386/10615474 https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2058303/10193707 https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2122876 https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2122947
If you want to engage my evidence with a substantive argument, I'd be up for that. I didn't know about Maccoby's book, but I, frankly, don't understand why you think it's meaningful.
jewfighter33 ago
added links, plz check again!
That doesnt even make sense. Why would he lie? If he was lying that would mean he had something to hide, and is an indication of guilt on its own thus debunking your own argument....
Are_we_sure ago
Did you add any links that response to my comments? Because I don't see them.
What are you talking about? I'm talking about Jorge Puello, He is the single source that mentioned Friends of the Orphans, which is a US based fundraising organization, not an orphanage in Haiti. And we know that Puello lied and lied and lied in his brief time in the spotlight. That's not my opinion that is a fact. My research shows that what Puello said about where she got the kids cannot be true. Because I went to primary sources and showed none of what he said occurred.
Why would he lie? A better question is why did he think he lies would work, since they soon fell apart and it was discovered he was not actually a lawyer, but a conman and fugitive child trafficker. My guess is he was trying to scam some money. He got into a fight over money with a real Haitian lawyer working for the group, named Edwin Coq.
I don't think he ever explained himself, but I think Puello immediately sensed Silsby was a grifter of some kind and got in contact with some of the families back in Idaho and proclaimed her the lawyer for the group and then rushed in front the cameras and the microphones.