Q claims that the whole reason we discovered that the N.S.A. had been spying on normal Americans is that the C.I.A. leaked it to destroy the credibility of the NSA and get them defunded and/or removed. This was in retaliation of the N.S.A. discovering that the C.I.A. has been behind pedophile rings around the world supplying children and using it as mass blackmail and brownstone operations in order to film politicians and other people of interest to rape children. He claims Snowden was never even an N.S.A. agent but a C.I.A. agent. Lmaolight spoke about this here
""The battle between the CIA and the NSA became public again when the CIA set up a sting that uncovered that Cisco Systems, a DARPA company, has built-in back doors on all their routers so that the NSA can spy undetected. The main stream media was even given videos of Cisco employees installing the backdoors in routers. The CIA found out about the back doors and made the information public to stop the NSA’s hacking of the CIA systems.”
"The NSA has the global surveillance capabilities to intercept all the DNC and Podesta emails. CIA is college grads only and has the traditions of the urban yankee northeastern and east coast ivy leaguers, “Blue State”, liberals. CIA hacks and has a cyber capability too according to VP Joe Biden. What if the NSA leaked the emails to Wikileaks to help Trump? What if the CIA discovered NSA was leakin emails? What would they go and do about it? Go to the FBI? Go public? What if they ain’t able to go public because they themselves are in violation of some domestic law? Enter the shadow brokers. I rekon the shadow brokers is CIA.What if the shadow brokers incident is CIA tit-for-tat retribution against NSA email leaks? Hack or steal NSA tools? Embarrass them? Get them broken up, fired? Sounds far fetched? Clapper and Carter tried to get Rogers fired. They also called for the breakup of NSA."
""In retaliation against the NSA, the CIA chose Edward Snowden, who was working for the CIA through Booz Allen Hamilton, to release stolen NSA documents that proved the NSA was illegally spying on Americans through computers, phones, and many other electronic devices. Snowden didn’t work for the NSA and did not have access to NSA files though he released a huge amount of data that confirmed the NSA’s surveillance. Michael Alperovitch’s CIA handlers ordered Snowden to turn over the NSA’s PKI encryption codes so that the CIA could enter the NSA’s system and steal the files needed to prove the NSA’s illegal surveillance. Snowden did not personally have access to those codes nor the information in the NSA system as part of his job."
If this is true, the N.S.A. are at war with the C.I.A. Do we have whitehats with the N.S.A. and the F.B.I.? I know the FBI vs CIA rivilry has been spoken about on these forums and written about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wedge:_The_Secret_War_between_the_FBI_and_CIA Since the C.I.A. get International status they can just tell the F.B.I. to cease investigations and that they have no jurisdiction I know for sure the C.I.A. is only a quasi government agency. They are the ones creating these pedophile brownstoning rings. Operation Mockingbird, Operation Paperclip, MKUltra these are all C.I.A. operations. Could this "government agency" actually be rogue and the U.S. Government in a secret civil war? Lamplight brought the topic of but if someone can help find the original Q post that would be great
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2415622/12037259
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2415622/12037220
Remember when people said they actually saw a flash and something explode over the skies of Hawaii?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naM2b8KrPtQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD_b4SZ-BjE
It was said Military and Intelligence officials working with us thwarted what would of been the worst terrorist attack on American Soil ever seen. I want to know who these whitehats are. I'm wondering if that's the N.S.A.? Would make sense since they have more authority than the F.B.I. does and besides the mass spying that came up we don't hear of these atrocities and trafficking rings selling children and drugs occurring within the N.S.A. we hear them coming out of the C.I.A. I think the C.I.A. has so much dirt on the rest of the government it's essentially holding them hostage and is completely rogue. Three C.I.A. whistleblowers have come out saying what they have did.
That video with John Kiriakou has been deleted. The audio is still here though. He admit the C.I.A. supplies child prostitutes.
(audio) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qx3FlmIAsc
Robert Steele says is here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN1PShWvO5U
Kevin Shipp says it here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjknH9ZlN8U
All three were C.I.A. agents who admit it.
So it there a civil war going on within the U.S. Government with the C.I.A. having gone rogue?
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ESOTERICshade ago
The NSA is the granddaddy of intel over the CIA. Of course they know the CIA is trafficking kids and the CIA knows they know. Everybody that is anybody in D.C. knows about it and always has. At least a third of the D.C. politicians, or more, send there kids to prep schools to get sodomized and learn their place in the Freemasonic pecking order.
If the NSA ever had any intention of out the CIA they simply would have done it. Trump has never spoken a word about a pedophile ring that a third of D.C. is involved in and that he is taking it down. Until he does Qs war on the deep state is a fable because that that pedo ring runs the deep state. Tired of hearing about white that 64 Gorrillion D chess too.
We are the one we have been waiting for and it is up to us. They just renewed their enhanced spying powers ON ME AND YOU. Trump just gave his blessing for more gun control over ME AND YOU for a damn false flag which makes him complicit.
Trump just added another TRILLION dollars worth of debt for our kids to pay off forever for his Zionist wars. The Feds announced they are back in the civil asset forfeiture business taking money from innocent motorists on the road without charging them for a crime.
The FDA just announced further sanctions on Kratom which is a harmless plant people use to break opiate addiction and Trump has said NOTHING about them hooking our children on big pharma drugs.
Trump is feeding Christianity to the Zionist political party and and ZIONISM IS THE DEEP STATE. Israel is a Talmudist Rothschild satellite and Trump is their salesman. And Q has people cheering for this madness. Wake the fuck up please.
truthdemon ago
Thank u from the bottom of my heart.. The civil war is between con agents and cohn agents..
ESOTERICshade ago
Good one! It takes good eyes to see pizzagate because a person needs to somewhat understand the occult. For this reason pizzagaters should have better eyes than run of the mill conspiracy buffs. And then, wham, from somewhere out of the blue a few pizzagaters have some form of terminal blindness to the two party system. It puzzles me immensely. It also infuriates half of the voting American public who would otherwise be receptive to our message.
If you gave a seminar on child abuse would you spend half your time beating them over the head with a political soapbox? Half of that audience would not like Trump but would also despise child abuse enough to spread the message of child abuse. This political soapbox mixed in our message instantly drives away half of our available audience and turns them into our enemy as well. I have tried every way I can think of to explain this simple concept to @vindicator, but so far, to no avail. Vindicator refuses to leave the political soap box in the trunk of the car when moderating here and it drives away non Trumpers that also hate child abuse.
@Vindicator seems to feel that Vin has a right to use this forum as a political soap box and I flatly am against it. I want the other half of that audience that @Vindicator is driving away to come here and feel comfortable. @Vindicator you do a good job but this thread should be flaired because it made no attempt to explain it's relevance and it would not pass the smell test unless it had Q in the title. A lof of us are fed up with your beating people over the head with your politics in this forum and you need to save that shit for Twitter because this forum is not your soap box.
srayzie ago
I’m stressed out today so I’m not going to argue. But think of this for a moment. The ones we’re fighting for abusing these kids many times involve the elite. Royal families, politicians, celebrities, etc...
Using your scenario, if there was a seminar on child abuse, if you want someone to see the whole picture and understand it, then yes you do have to dig deeper. You do have to bring up the ones behind it all and the ones that we have to fight to fix it. We can’t do it on our own.
This is like war. Good verses evil. If we want change, it involves the people that run the world. Bringing up military, CIA, politicians, celebrities, etc should all be on the table. Sorry if that’s irritating to some. I get irritated by Trump and Q bashers. Nobody holds back on me. People attack me all the time. People can bring up valid points and people only focus on the fact that someone said Q or Trump.
@ESOTERICshade Pizzagate is like one branch of a tree. To get the whole tree, we have to get over other branches. Sorry. I’m retarted trying to explain myself 🙄 I’m sure you get it.
Just to be fair, you also post about politics and anti-Trump articles. So that should go both ways. I’m so proud of me. I’m CALM 😚 Peace out my homies. I got things to do. Like take a nap. I woke up at 2!
That’s just my 2 cents. @think- @Vindicator @Kevdude @gamepwn
ESOTERICshade ago
If I host a seminar about child abuse I don't plan to alienate a large portion of the audience by throwing a one sided political argument at them knowing that roughly half of them will feel like I tricked them into a political rally instead of a seminar about child abuse. If I do plan to pound my audience with a one sided political party seminar I will make sure to tell the people that don't support Trump not to bother to show up and be pissed off. We are not here to alienate half of the public that does not want to hear about Trump. Just my two cents.
srayzie ago
Look what you made me do 🙄 https://streamable.com/yq2ul
srayzie ago
But Trump is just one person. There are bad republicans too. That’s not what it’s about. My point is that people bring up Trump allll the time. Good and bad. It’s not fair for one group but not the other. I’m always attacked for my beliefs. But at least here we have more freedom and aren’t banned like Twitter.
ESOTERICshade ago
We can agree to disagree, i'm cool with that :)
srayzie ago
https://streamable.com/p54ib 😁
think- ago
I read the post, too, and I too, decided to let it stay, so the reason definitely is not that Q is in the headline.
As you know, I have said from the beginning that IMO Q is very likely a psy-op by team Trump. And I haven't changed this view since I became a mod.
I don't agree with OP, as I can't see why the NSA would be an organization which employs many white hats.
But it is not my job to decide this, my job is to decide whether the post meets the rules, and it does.
Please note the question marks in the headline OP uses. He wrote this as a discussion post, and invited the community to chime in.
@Vindicator @kevdude @Crensch @ben_matlock @EricKaliberhall
ESOTERICshade ago
I really don't care as much about the flair as I do the constant selling of Trump and the attempts to push it into this sub. This is a child abuse sub instead of place to sell Rothschild's buddies like Trump. Half of the American public hates Trump and we alienate them when our mod pushes it in this sub.
think- ago
Then please elaborate what @Vindicator did in regard to this post - in his function as a mod - that could be seen as 'constant selling of Trump'.
As you know, I am non-partisan, so I don't necessarily agree with the Trump supporters on this board.
But your attack here is pointless. @Vindicator did nothing wrong regarding the rules.
And as your average fellow user I would like to point out that those who are Trump supporters and are into Q - people like @Vindicator, @srayzie, @bopper, @EricKaliberhall or @migratorypatterns - are legitimate members of this community. They have the right to voice their opinion, as do the Bernie Sanders supporters or the non-partisans.
srayzie ago
No not Bernie Sanders 🙄 lol
think- ago
Haha! I had to write this to be fair, although I'm not a Sanders supporter.
srayzie ago
I dare a Hillary supporter to come! 😂
think- ago
Shshsh....don't give them ideas! LOL
srayzie ago
This is what you comment with if you find a Hillary supporter!
https://streamable.com/p54ib
ESOTERICshade ago
I'm simply voicing mine with details like this. I said my piece by pointing out the following. Trump is affiliated with the Rothschilds up to his neck. I'm done and don't see any need to drag this on today. If I want to point out Trump's cozy relationship again in the future I may do it but for today I did what I wanted to do with the following.
Trump is seriously pro Israel:
Israeli Supreme Court Building with Illumaniti Rothschild pyramid built right into the center of it.
https://files.catbox.moe/7l3vld.PNG
Israeli Supreme Court Building pyramid close up you can see the eye
https://files.catbox.moe/lvr94d.PNG
Rothschild Blvd. In Israel
https://files.catbox.moe/8px9fh.PNG
Rothschild Blvd. sign in Israel
https://files.catbox.moe/f851bc.PNG
Palestine land map before Rothschild's Balfour Declaration. And now after the Palestenians got bombed off their land and out of their homes.
https://files.catbox.moe/y9u75t.jpg
Banking families control intel agencies and government. Zionism/Jesuits run banking. Trump supports Israel. Trump is a puppet and Israel salesman.
https://files.catbox.moe/yfhqdj.PNG
Israel is Rothschild's personal creation. Trump sends billions to Israel while Americans go homeless and live one paycheck away from bankruptcy.
https://files.catbox.moe/kfb8rp.jpg
Trump wearing Kippa while praying at the wall in Rothschild's Israel
https://files.catbox.moe/xvftv5.PNG
VIDEO: How The Rosthschilds Stole Israel & Control The ...
https://youtu.be/J8kTa9UkpXo
Trump's Son In Law preying at the wall in Rothschild's Israel
https://files.catbox.moe/x7maqd.PNG
Trump's daughter Ivanka praying at the wall in Rothschild's Israel
https://files.catbox.moe/4bzdu9.PNG
Q references the evil Protocols Of The Elders of Zion and not once points at Trump to affiliate Trump with Israel. This is called deflection, ignorance, or a lie, because Trump is in bed with Israel and the criminal political movement known as Zionism.
https://files.catbox.moe/5lqu29.png
Trump is a deceptive plague to the truth movement that tells us things we love to hear and does nothing to create long term beneficial changes in our daily lives.
srayzie ago
But see how you say that a lot? You post things like this a lot. It’s only fair that others post how they feel as well. I’m tired of censorship. Everywhere we turn we have to shut up.
think- ago
Ok, I notice you are not going to reply to my question:
@Vindicator @kevdude @Crensch @ben_matlock @EricKaliberhall
ESOTERICshade ago
I notice you are not going to stop stirring the pot. I posted the information I wanted to post. If Vindicator wants to be invisible from critique because he is a mod then I don't think that will happen. Vindicator is both a user and a mod and what Vin says is fair game to be examined like all other comments. I already posted the information I wanted to post but if you want to continue to poke at it be my guest.
think- ago
You accused him of doing something wrong as a mod on this thread, and you were not able to prove it.
If we can agree on that, I will stop 'stirring the pot'.
@Vindicator @kevdude @Crensch @ben_matlock @EricKaliberhall
ESOTERICshade ago
You accused him of doing something wrong as a mod on this thread, and you were not able to prove it.
I expressed an opinion which I regularly do to all posters in this forum about what they type, and I don't have to say shit else to you so knock yourself out talking to yourself about it.
think- ago
Noted.
Summary: You accused @Vindicator of wrongdoing as a mod, but were not able to prove it.
Have a nice evening.
@Vindicator @kevdude @Crensch @ben_matlock @EricKaliberhall
ESOTERICshade ago
I have now heard, accepted, and appreciated your opinion about my opinion four times now. Please go find something else to do.
think- ago
@kevdude @Crensch @ben_matlock @Blacksmith21: please see parent.
think- ago
@Blacksmith21: please see parent.
Vindicator ago
^^Heads up @think- @ben_matlock @Blacksmith21 @EricKaliberhall @Crensch
Behold the new campaign.
Also relevant: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2416922/12029148
ESOTERICshade ago
Nice. Instead of addressing the following you smear me. I'm on solid ground and you are throwing insults. Nice job. I just don't think we should be selling Rothschild in this sub for obvious reasons. Instead of discussing the following you start pinging up a shit storm.
Trump is seriously pro Israel:
Israeli Supreme Court Building with Illumaniti Rothschild pyramid built right into the center of it.
https://files.catbox.moe/7l3vld.PNG
Israeli Supreme Court Building pyramid close up you can see the eye
https://files.catbox.moe/lvr94d.PNG
Rothschild Blvd. In Israel
https://files.catbox.moe/8px9fh.PNG
Rothschild Blvd. sign in Israel
https://files.catbox.moe/f851bc.PNG
Palestine land map before Rothschild's Balfour Declaration. And now after the Palestenians got bombed off their land and out of their homes.
https://files.catbox.moe/y9u75t.jpg
Banking families control intel agencies and government. Zionism/Jesuits run banking. Trump supports Israel. Trump is a puppet and Israel salesman.
https://files.catbox.moe/yfhqdj.PNG
Israel is Rothschild's personal creation. Trump sends billions to Israel while Americans go homeless and live one paycheck away from bankruptcy.
https://files.catbox.moe/kfb8rp.jpg
Trump wearing Kippa while praying at the wall in Rothschild's Israel
https://files.catbox.moe/xvftv5.PNG
VIDEO: How The Rosthschilds Stole Israel & Control The ...
https://youtu.be/J8kTa9UkpXo
Trump's Son In Law preying at the wall in Rothschild's Israel
https://files.catbox.moe/x7maqd.PNG
Trump's daughter Ivanka praying at the wall in Rothschild's Israel
https://files.catbox.moe/4bzdu9.PNG
Q references the evil Protocols Of The Elders of Zion and not once points at Trump to affiliate Trump with Israel. This is called deflection, ignorance, or a lie, because Trump is in bed with Israel and the criminal political movement known as Zionism.
https://files.catbox.moe/5lqu29.png
Trump is a deceptive plague to the truth movement that tells us things we love to hear and does nothing to create long term beneficial changes in our daily lives.
Vindicator ago
Nope. You're pushing Fake News, Esoteric. Here are all of Q's 12/5/2017 posts: https://files.catbox.moe/14tfi3.pngPNG
You can verify them here: https://qanonmap.github.io/index.html?
Now why would you be making up Fake Q Leaks, Esoteric?
ESOTERICshade ago
I found that link you said triggered your virus program and I deleted it. it didn't trigger my Kaspersky Anti Virus but I deleted it for you anyway.
ESOTERICshade ago
If you say its fake I will take your word for it. I may be wrong but I thought I got that from @srayzie because she shows me Q stuff sometimes. Srayzie did you give me this or did I find this on my own somehow because I don't know for sure.
srayzie ago
No I didn’t give that to you. I gave you this.
ESOTERICshade ago
Ok thanx. Lets just let all this crazy shit die now.
Vindicator ago
@kevdude see parent