Making @kevdude an [O] level mod is directly against the operating rules of this subreddit and I explicitly do not condone this action and I now consider this 'verse corrupt and in the middle of a takeover by corrupt forces.
Kevdude you have 24h from this post to voluntarily resign this position or my assertion of the subverse being corrupt will be validated and I will resign my own position as I cannot in good conscience participate in a sub that is a willing participant in this type of moderator conduct.
Second point:
The two [O] level mods can only in unanimous agreement invite another [O] level mod. (kingkongwaswrong is absentee and considered an automatic nay vote)
I did not endorse or approve this action which makes your position here nonviable and in contravention of the rules of this sub. @crensch I am very disappointed in this unilateral action you have taken and I disagree with it absolutely and unreservedly.
The removal of @millennial_falcon is a violation of the operating method of this sub and is something I consider further evidence of a hostile takeover attempt by external forces.
I consider this an overtly hostile action towards my position here and I am against all and any actions, rule changes and additions to the mod team that have been made without my consultation.
All these changes have been made in an uncharacteristic haste when all previously standing orders have been to apply patience and to wait before making drastic actions as witnessed here. (three days is not enough time to resolve this)
I now consider this entire subverse to be potentially in the hands of the very people I have been trying to work against and I am very disappointed that the derail and destruct attempts by the external forces have shown to be effective in causing this sub to fall into their hands.
And for anyone who thinks @millennial_falcon has done a poor job of moderating, not a single one of you has requested or made an effort to do a better job yourselves.
And in that single failure of action you have all shown your true motivations.
It should have been obvious to all of you that the subverse has been under constant and periodic attack from people with ambiguous motivations and the moderators of this subverse have been targeted for being the scapegoat to bring about exactly these types of changes as a way to open a wedge in the management of the subverse.
The only sensible thing I've seen from all this is the proposed 24h grace period for questionable posts.
That is something I can support.
Gee thanx. Have you been posting here and had to tolerate his modding as much as we have? Getting a new mod is the best thing that has happened here in a year. I don't even believe this. I really don't.
I'm not sure if you're aware, but I am the other [O] level moderator of this verse, and all the things I have listed in the above comment are true to the operating rules and standards this sub has been held to from the beginning.
I am well aware of all of the criticisms leveled at all the moderators, and my commentary (which is public) has been consistent from the beginning.
While I am not visbily participatory in the subverse I am constantly monitoring it for exactly this kind of hostile takeover attempt, which you seem to be the lead advocate for.
While I am not visbily participatory in the subverse I am constantly monitoring it for exactly this kind of hostile takeover attempt, which you seem to be the lead advocate for.
I am here every day. I am only trying to participate in making a better sub. I am not part of anything hostile or any takeovers. Us regular users have felt for a long time that we have been held hostage. There are two sides to this equation.
I am not part of anything hostile or any takeovers.
I don't believe you (but refer to my previous comment, it applies to me too)
What I have seen from you is a constant participation, but one that is consistently disruptive and requires significant effort to counter your attempts to re-direct the focus of the subverse away from the core purpose.
Us regular users
I'm a regular user too, I upvote and downvote content as much as I can, and I've even advocated for borderline posts to be left alone as they generated great discussion.
I am only trying to participate in making a better sub.
I can believe and would be happy to accept this, if you posted quality content and helped posters that ran afoul of the rules but would otherwise have great content.
If you want to gain my support, do more of this, be pro active in fostering and nurturing posters of content.
I can believe and would be happy to accept this, if you posted quality content and helped posters that ran afoul of the rules but would otherwise have great content.
I don't know if you noticed but a lot of us quit wasting our time spending hours preparing things because of the moderation. You can blame it on us but we don't think its all our fault.
I don't believe you (but refer to my previous comment, it applies to me too)
I wish you did because its true. I'm just one of the few brave enough to speak with the possibility of getting banned.
I don't know if you noticed but a lot of us quit wasting our time spending hours preparing things because of the moderation. You can blame it on us but we don't think its all our fault.
I do blame you, your commitment is lacking and the very thing that makes me interpret your actions as that of a disruptor.
If you're serious, commit the time, take the action and persist. Show me you are what you say you are.
I'm just one of the few brave enough to speak with the possibility of getting banned.
I don't see anything you've done so far as being something as warranting a ban, and I request, formally, that you contact me directly if you are banned and I will remove it as quick as I can.
I can disagree with you all I want, but nothing so far warrants a ban and my disagreement is vastly insufficient to even permit a ban.
I can disagree with you all I want, but nothing so far warrants a ban and my disagreement is vastly insufficient to even permit a ban.
It would be nice if everybody was a level headed. Falcon banned a user for simply saying "there are some good posts in the deleted submissions area." The community raised all amounts of hell until he finally unbanned her. I am not making a false claim its true. He does not deny it. @2impendingdoom confirms it in this thread. Other mods aware of it. There are others.
I do blame you, your commitment is lacking
The poster is always wrong is a common theme. Sometimes it really is the mod.
The poster is always wrong is a common theme. Sometimes it really is the mod.
Mods can fail, and often do.
But I did not say "the poster is always wrong", I questioned your commitment to making the subverse better.
This is the kind of deflection that makes me suspect you and your intentions.
I questioned your commitment to making the subverse better.
My committment was to help @vindicator and @kevdude make a better sub. You may not agree with what I am committed to but it is committment none the less. You can define my committment any way you like but as I am defining the term it reflects my intentions. If you interpret lack of committment with disagreement about how Falcon mods you are not defining my intentions correctly.
And you further deflect by clearly not addressing the issue of you deflecting.
you interpret lack of committment with disagreement about how Falcon mods you are not defining my intentions correctly.
I do not see you working with members of the community to help draft and post better content and I do not see you taking the effort to go through deleted posts and help the poster make them better.
I have seen no action of yours that grows the community.
I have seen action of yours that destructs the community through negativity and constant complaining.
Do more of the first and less of the second if you want me to take you seriously.
What about your mod banning people for simply speaking a sentence. The poster said "some of the better posts are in the deleted submissions bin" and got banned. Is that how the mods are allowed to operate without being removed?
There is not such thing as "my mod".
You are creating a false reality with your first sentence that is misleading.
Please correct this and I request you make better efforts to not mislead readers through manipulations like this
But.
Please link me to this comment and the user so I can investigate
If I were to spend that amount of time looking for it and I find it. And it is as simple as I say it is and my words are truthful. Will this rise to the level of having the mod removed? This will be difficult to find but it is not impossible because I know two people that will know where to look. What is the penalty for a mod for such an action as I described?
Will this rise to the level of having the mod removed?
It will rise to the level of having the user unbanned if they were banned unjustly.
What is the penalty for a mod for such an action as I described?
At the moment the penalty is censure, of which M_F already has one from me, if M_F was the mod that banned the user unjustly it would earn a second sanction and I would officially warn that mod that they are on a last step before permanent removal.
When a mod is on a last step, I am extremely sensitive to mod abuse and the mod in question would have to be a perfect angel in their conduct from that point forward.
I request you address the first part of my comment, the part that deals with you misrepresenting the facts and request you post an edit to that comment that reflects a clarification of your message that is more factual and bedded in reality.
I request you address the first part of my comment, the part that deals with you misrepresenting the facts and request you post an edit to that comment that reflects a clarification of your message that is more factual and bedded in reality.
Done.
If I can provide two instances of a mod in this subverse banning a person for the scenario I previously described will that count as three instances and result in the removal of the mod? The mod is Falcon. In the other instance the reason he gave the poster was "because it amuses me." Vindicator had to get that poster unbanned. If I spend the time to provide you with these examples will it result in the removal of the mod?
Please do link the user and comment that got them banned so I can determine if they should be unbanned and M_F censured.
If I can provide two instances of a mod in this subverse banning a person for the scenario
This crosses the threshold of being a witch hunt, as you have only introduced this question after you gained an answer that would produce the outcome you seek.
If I spend the time to provide you with these examples will it result in the removal of the mod?
For the first time you are honest with your intentions.
You are, and have been, on a long running witch hunt to ban a moderator from this subverse, yet to this date you have refused and/or failed to use the tools provided to you in /v/pizzagatemods and /v/pizzagewhatever or by directly contacting me.
You are not acting honestly and with good faith, you are manipulating and are using deception to gain your objective.
This marks your objective (to get M_F banned) as being an overt take over attempt of the subverse, and marks you as being a disruptor of the subverse.
BUT, and it's a big but, do not think for one second that I will dance to your tune and ban M_F because you fabricated a situation where you can scream "gotcha" and use my above comments in support of your witch hunt.
@Crensch - please add and monitor this user as they are now identified as a distruptor and a corrupting influence on the pizzage community.
I will unban the user if I deem it appropriate, but from this point forward I will ignore any and every attempt from you and alts I have identified as being you to ban any (and I mean any) moderator of this subverse.
In this comment I speak as a moderator and this is my official stance.
You are branded as a known shill, a known corrupter and a known time waster.
Please go and cry to anyone and everyone and link to this comment in your future deceptions.
Wow! I will have to re read this before I make any further comments but WOW! I'm shocked .. I can see what's happening here and it's not a " hostile takeover "
Forgive me if I lol ! I find it comical that after 1 year of constant complaints about this guy your making people show you proof that his demoditization (if that's a word) is warranted 🤣.. it's like you are all conducting one of your experiments .. to answer your question from
Earlier about " what's happening " @dragonkiller summed it up pretty good . Just reread his comments . Thanks
Wow! I will have to re read this before I make any further comments but WOW! I'm shocked .. I can see what's happening here and it's not a " hostile takeover "
Yep. We gonna get one of those GPS dog collars like ESO got. These people are power hungry ego maniacs and maybe worse.
yet to this date you have refused and/or failed to use the tools provided to you in /v/pizzagatemods and /v/pizzagewhatever or by directly contacting me.
Oh, and before I sign off our cheerful discussion I considered this thread one of those tools since it is strickied at the top of the page and directly pertains to mod behavior. You guys need a tool booklet to help us dumbasses tell the difference between a tool and and an oven.
What in the actual? Something's definitely wrong here !
No shit. @VictorSteinerDavion ain't got no reasonable comback to that comment lol....Holy fuck. He gonna give ESOshade a dog collar with a GPS chip and put him in Gitmo for telling him that Falcon has been banning people without a good reason. I'm joking obviously but what the actual fuck. ESOshade on the list of subversives for reporting Falcon.
I can see you probably don't have the same volume of information I have.
As a moderator I've been monitoring and tracking various users for the types of behaviors that are in line with groups that like to disrupt and otherwise ruin online communities.
EsotericShade is one of those people, but to an outsider who is coming into this new it can certainly look like I'm on a whacko crusade.
As for M_F banning people without good reason: This is a claim that has been made for years, yet nobody ever sends me the links to where it has happened, or when they do it turns out the person banned was a spammer (usually amalek).
Much of this current drama is forced and created by people who are not interested in the main function of this subverse.
If you are aware of anyone who has been unjustly banned, start a thread in /v/pizzagatemods and ping me so I can look into it
As a moderator I've been monitoring and tracking various users for the types of behaviors that are in line with groups that like to disrupt and otherwise ruin online communities.
As a user I have been reading this sub for a year and started participating more lately and I can tell you that I can read and comprehend and that your definition of "behaviors" that are "disruptive" are defined as something you don't want to hear. I'm not an outsider and i'm not new. I might have spent more time reading this place than you so don't cast your aspersions on me.
As for M_F banning people without good reason: This is a claim that has been made for years, yet nobody ever sends me the links to where it has happened
Sure
or when they do it turns out the person banned was a spammer (usually amalek).
Falcon's go to boogie man when he wants to ban somebody.
Much of this current drama is forced and created by people who are not interested in the main function of this subverse.
Incorrect. The truth is that they don't like the way you guys run it and they want to change the way it works so that it WILL FUNCITON AS A SUB TO PROTECT CHILDREN and you sir are an anchor weight.
You are not acting honestly and with good faith, you are manipulating and are using deception to gain your objective.
Wow reporting inappropriate mod behavior racks up a long list of crimes. This is like a concentration camp instead of a "community" as you call it. Need to keep reading. I only got this far. By time time I get finished with the crimes list there may be a guillotine at the end of your comment.
By time time I get finished with the crimes list there may be a guillotine at the end of your comment.
ROFLMAO ESo. Off with your head. God Damn what is going on around here with these fucking people. This shit is bizarro world.
Use a sharp blade @VictorSteinerDavion so that it will be quick. What in the actual fuck is wrong with you man? He just reported something to you about a mod and you went ballistic. I'm sure I will get some of your meaningless bucket language as a response but damn dude.
ROFLMAO ESo. Off with your head. God Damn what is going on around here with these fucking people. This shit is bizarro world.
Use a sharp blade @VictorSteinerDavion so that it will be quick. What in the actual fuck is wrong with you man? He just reported something to you about a mod and you went ballistic. I'm sure I will get some of your meaningless bucket language as a response but damn dude.
Word. When I got up this morning and looked at that conversation again it was like taking a space ride into another dimension of mind fuckville. I had to get another cup of coffee and read it again and it still said the same thing. Told the man the mod wasn't up to snuff and he Gitmo me. What a zoo.
Your comment made me laugh though. Thanx for the smile. I had a mental pic of me in my GPS dog collar headed for the guillotine at Gitmo and I busted out laughing out loud...fuck this crazy place man.
This crosses the threshold of being a witch hunt, as you have only introduced this question after you gained an answer that would produce the outcome you seek.
I see. Reporting behavior of a moderator gets a poster put on a shit list. I figured this might happen. So much for democracy in the community. Reporting more than one instance of bad mod behavior is not tolerated. Wanting to replace a misbehaving moderator with a one that behaves correctly is a "witch hunt."
Reporting behavior of a moderator gets a poster put on a shit list.
Again with the misdirection and lies.
Fabricating a situation where you dribble information to get an outcome gets you on a shitlist.
Only coming forward with speculative informaiton (you still haven't posted any links to the stuff in question) gets you on a shit list.
Continually misrepresenting information, and insinuating falsehoods gets you on a shit list.
Wasting my time with drawn out bullshit gets you on a shit list. You could have just posted the information in your first comment, but instead you've drawn this on in some kind of weaksauce melodrama attention whore malarky.
Wanting to replace a misbehaving moderator with a one that behaves correctly is a "witch hunt."
Yet more dishonest misdirection.
Nowhere have you even hinted at a replacement until just now.
Do you have someone in mind? Why did you wait until just now to even raise this concept?
Why did you not state this in your first comment?
I figured this might happen
Then WHY, why did you conduct yourself in such a roundabout manner?
Why did you not simply present all your claims and supporting information in your first comment?
Why have you misdirected and misrepresented throughout this entire conversation thread?
Why?
Because you are a tool who only wants to drown this subverse in wasteful drama in order to deflect the attention away from the purpose.
I encourage you to continue replying as all you will do is further prove my point that you are not the character you are trying to present
Why have you misdirected and misrepresented throughout this entire conversation thread?
Tells ESO what the penalty is for banning people wrongly. ESO tells it happened multiple times. VSD goes whack on it. Right dude. Just resign for us like you promised. Bon voyage
Fabricating a situation where you dribble information to get an outcome gets you on a shitlist.
That is crap. ESO gave you a violation. You told him what the penalty was. He then told you the violation happened more than once. Now you want to back track and start making up shit. The rules are whatever you say they are to fit your whims at the moment. You are so cold busted. No wonder nobody is bothering to try to talk to you.
This is the kind of deflection that makes me suspect you and your intentions.
Deflection. Another term for you are always wrong. And I am not deflecting. Its the truth in this sub. You know that. You can nit pick me on the word "always" if you want to but essentially you know I am telling the truth because you see what goes on around here.
You deflected. And you are furthering that deflection. You could take a moment to self reflect on this if you are as you claim to be.
essentially you know I am telling the truth because you see what goes on around here
I do see what goes on around here.
And you are not telling the truth, because your comment implies I said a thing that I did not - this is deflection and is misleading.
You are misleading people towards a conclusion that is not true.
Think on this, consider it and if I can see you have done this I will reconsider my opinion of you
The donvoats on my comments should and will be interpreted as proving in the affirmative that this user is not acting with honesty and integrity.
You are one seriously delusional piece of work. You got down voted because people do not agree with you.. Telling everybody your down votes mean that somebody is dishonest. Your credibility is zero in spite of your flowery language bait.
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VictorSteinerDavion ago
First point:
Making @kevdude an [O] level mod is directly against the operating rules of this subreddit and I explicitly do not condone this action and I now consider this 'verse corrupt and in the middle of a takeover by corrupt forces.
Kevdude you have 24h from this post to voluntarily resign this position or my assertion of the subverse being corrupt will be validated and I will resign my own position as I cannot in good conscience participate in a sub that is a willing participant in this type of moderator conduct.
Second point:
The two [O] level mods can only in unanimous agreement invite another [O] level mod. (kingkongwaswrong is absentee and considered an automatic nay vote)
I did not endorse or approve this action which makes your position here nonviable and in contravention of the rules of this sub.
@crensch I am very disappointed in this unilateral action you have taken and I disagree with it absolutely and unreservedly.
The removal of @millennial_falcon is a violation of the operating method of this sub and is something I consider further evidence of a hostile takeover attempt by external forces.
I consider this an overtly hostile action towards my position here and I am against all and any actions, rule changes and additions to the mod team that have been made without my consultation.
All these changes have been made in an uncharacteristic haste when all previously standing orders have been to apply patience and to wait before making drastic actions as witnessed here. (three days is not enough time to resolve this)
I now consider this entire subverse to be potentially in the hands of the very people I have been trying to work against and I am very disappointed that the derail and destruct attempts by the external forces have shown to be effective in causing this sub to fall into their hands.
And for anyone who thinks @millennial_falcon has done a poor job of moderating, not a single one of you has requested or made an effort to do a better job yourselves.
And in that single failure of action you have all shown your true motivations.
It should have been obvious to all of you that the subverse has been under constant and periodic attack from people with ambiguous motivations and the moderators of this subverse have been targeted for being the scapegoat to bring about exactly these types of changes as a way to open a wedge in the management of the subverse.
The only sensible thing I've seen from all this is the proposed 24h grace period for questionable posts.
That is something I can support.
As for the rest, revert or be shown to be corrupt
ESOTERICshade ago
Gee thanx. Have you been posting here and had to tolerate his modding as much as we have? Getting a new mod is the best thing that has happened here in a year. I don't even believe this. I really don't.
VictorSteinerDavion ago
I'm not sure if you're aware, but I am the other [O] level moderator of this verse, and all the things I have listed in the above comment are true to the operating rules and standards this sub has been held to from the beginning.
I am well aware of all of the criticisms leveled at all the moderators, and my commentary (which is public) has been consistent from the beginning.
While I am not visbily participatory in the subverse I am constantly monitoring it for exactly this kind of hostile takeover attempt, which you seem to be the lead advocate for.
Your belief is not required.
ESOTERICshade ago
I am here every day. I am only trying to participate in making a better sub. I am not part of anything hostile or any takeovers. Us regular users have felt for a long time that we have been held hostage. There are two sides to this equation.
VictorSteinerDavion ago
I don't believe you (but refer to my previous comment, it applies to me too)
What I have seen from you is a constant participation, but one that is consistently disruptive and requires significant effort to counter your attempts to re-direct the focus of the subverse away from the core purpose.
I'm a regular user too, I upvote and downvote content as much as I can, and I've even advocated for borderline posts to be left alone as they generated great discussion.
I can believe and would be happy to accept this, if you posted quality content and helped posters that ran afoul of the rules but would otherwise have great content.
If you want to gain my support, do more of this, be pro active in fostering and nurturing posters of content.
ESOTERICshade ago
I don't know if you noticed but a lot of us quit wasting our time spending hours preparing things because of the moderation. You can blame it on us but we don't think its all our fault.
I wish you did because its true. I'm just one of the few brave enough to speak with the possibility of getting banned.
VictorSteinerDavion ago
I do blame you, your commitment is lacking and the very thing that makes me interpret your actions as that of a disruptor.
If you're serious, commit the time, take the action and persist. Show me you are what you say you are.
I don't see anything you've done so far as being something as warranting a ban, and I request, formally, that you contact me directly if you are banned and I will remove it as quick as I can.
I can disagree with you all I want, but nothing so far warrants a ban and my disagreement is vastly insufficient to even permit a ban.
ESOTERICshade ago
It would be nice if everybody was a level headed. Falcon banned a user for simply saying "there are some good posts in the deleted submissions area." The community raised all amounts of hell until he finally unbanned her. I am not making a false claim its true. He does not deny it. @2impendingdoom confirms it in this thread. Other mods aware of it. There are others.
The poster is always wrong is a common theme. Sometimes it really is the mod.
VictorSteinerDavion ago
Mods can fail, and often do.
But I did not say "the poster is always wrong", I questioned your commitment to making the subverse better.
This is the kind of deflection that makes me suspect you and your intentions.
ESOTERICshade ago
My committment was to help @vindicator and @kevdude make a better sub. You may not agree with what I am committed to but it is committment none the less. You can define my committment any way you like but as I am defining the term it reflects my intentions. If you interpret lack of committment with disagreement about how Falcon mods you are not defining my intentions correctly.
VictorSteinerDavion ago
And you further deflect by clearly not addressing the issue of you deflecting.
I do not see you working with members of the community to help draft and post better content and I do not see you taking the effort to go through deleted posts and help the poster make them better.
I have seen no action of yours that grows the community.
I have seen action of yours that destructs the community through negativity and constant complaining.
Do more of the first and less of the second if you want me to take you seriously.
ESOTERICshade ago
What about your mod banning people for simply speaking a sentence. The poster said "some of the better posts are in the deleted submissions bin" and got banned. Is that how the mods are allowed to operate without being removed?
VictorSteinerDavion ago
There is not such thing as "my mod".
You are creating a false reality with your first sentence that is misleading.
Please correct this and I request you make better efforts to not mislead readers through manipulations like this
But.
Please link me to this comment and the user so I can investigate
ESOTERICshade ago
If I were to spend that amount of time looking for it and I find it. And it is as simple as I say it is and my words are truthful. Will this rise to the level of having the mod removed? This will be difficult to find but it is not impossible because I know two people that will know where to look. What is the penalty for a mod for such an action as I described?
VictorSteinerDavion ago
It will rise to the level of having the user unbanned if they were banned unjustly.
At the moment the penalty is censure, of which M_F already has one from me, if M_F was the mod that banned the user unjustly it would earn a second sanction and I would officially warn that mod that they are on a last step before permanent removal.
When a mod is on a last step, I am extremely sensitive to mod abuse and the mod in question would have to be a perfect angel in their conduct from that point forward.
I request you address the first part of my comment, the part that deals with you misrepresenting the facts and request you post an edit to that comment that reflects a clarification of your message that is more factual and bedded in reality.
ESOTERICshade ago
Done.
If I can provide two instances of a mod in this subverse banning a person for the scenario I previously described will that count as three instances and result in the removal of the mod? The mod is Falcon. In the other instance the reason he gave the poster was "because it amuses me." Vindicator had to get that poster unbanned. If I spend the time to provide you with these examples will it result in the removal of the mod?
VictorSteinerDavion ago
Please do link the user and comment that got them banned so I can determine if they should be unbanned and M_F censured.
This crosses the threshold of being a witch hunt, as you have only introduced this question after you gained an answer that would produce the outcome you seek.
For the first time you are honest with your intentions.
You are, and have been, on a long running witch hunt to ban a moderator from this subverse, yet to this date you have refused and/or failed to use the tools provided to you in /v/pizzagatemods and /v/pizzagewhatever or by directly contacting me.
You are not acting honestly and with good faith, you are manipulating and are using deception to gain your objective.
This marks your objective (to get M_F banned) as being an overt take over attempt of the subverse, and marks you as being a disruptor of the subverse.
BUT, and it's a big but, do not think for one second that I will dance to your tune and ban M_F because you fabricated a situation where you can scream "gotcha" and use my above comments in support of your witch hunt.
@Crensch - please add and monitor this user as they are now identified as a distruptor and a corrupting influence on the pizzage community.
I will unban the user if I deem it appropriate, but from this point forward I will ignore any and every attempt from you and alts I have identified as being you to ban any (and I mean any) moderator of this subverse.
In this comment I speak as a moderator and this is my official stance.
You are branded as a known shill, a known corrupter and a known time waster.
Please go and cry to anyone and everyone and link to this comment in your future deceptions.
Cc1914 ago
Wow! I will have to re read this before I make any further comments but WOW! I'm shocked .. I can see what's happening here and it's not a " hostile takeover "
VictorSteinerDavion ago
If you can see what is happening, please inform me of you thoughts
Cc1914 ago
Forgive me if I lol ! I find it comical that after 1 year of constant complaints about this guy your making people show you proof that his demoditization (if that's a word) is warranted 🤣.. it's like you are all conducting one of your experiments .. to answer your question from Earlier about " what's happening " @dragonkiller summed it up pretty good . Just reread his comments . Thanks
dragonkiller ago
Yep. We gonna get one of those GPS dog collars like ESO got. These people are power hungry ego maniacs and maybe worse.
ESOTERICshade ago
Oh, and before I sign off our cheerful discussion I considered this thread one of those tools since it is strickied at the top of the page and directly pertains to mod behavior. You guys need a tool booklet to help us dumbasses tell the difference between a tool and and an oven.
ESOTERICshade ago
Will do. And thank you for your graceful consideration. :)
ESOTERICshade ago
Do I get an ankle bracelet with this? This seems a little harsh for reporting inappropriate mod behavior.
Cc1914 ago
What in the actual? Something's definitely wrong here !
dragonkiller ago
No shit. @VictorSteinerDavion ain't got no reasonable comback to that comment lol....Holy fuck. He gonna give ESOshade a dog collar with a GPS chip and put him in Gitmo for telling him that Falcon has been banning people without a good reason. I'm joking obviously but what the actual fuck. ESOshade on the list of subversives for reporting Falcon.
VictorSteinerDavion ago
Ha!
I can see you probably don't have the same volume of information I have.
As a moderator I've been monitoring and tracking various users for the types of behaviors that are in line with groups that like to disrupt and otherwise ruin online communities.
EsotericShade is one of those people, but to an outsider who is coming into this new it can certainly look like I'm on a whacko crusade.
As for M_F banning people without good reason: This is a claim that has been made for years, yet nobody ever sends me the links to where it has happened, or when they do it turns out the person banned was a spammer (usually amalek).
Much of this current drama is forced and created by people who are not interested in the main function of this subverse.
If you are aware of anyone who has been unjustly banned, start a thread in /v/pizzagatemods and ping me so I can look into it
dragonkiller ago
As a user I have been reading this sub for a year and started participating more lately and I can tell you that I can read and comprehend and that your definition of "behaviors" that are "disruptive" are defined as something you don't want to hear. I'm not an outsider and i'm not new. I might have spent more time reading this place than you so don't cast your aspersions on me.
Sure
Falcon's go to boogie man when he wants to ban somebody.
Incorrect. The truth is that they don't like the way you guys run it and they want to change the way it works so that it WILL FUNCITON AS A SUB TO PROTECT CHILDREN and you sir are an anchor weight.
ESOTERICshade ago
Wow reporting inappropriate mod behavior racks up a long list of crimes. This is like a concentration camp instead of a "community" as you call it. Need to keep reading. I only got this far. By time time I get finished with the crimes list there may be a guillotine at the end of your comment.
dragonkiller ago
ROFLMAO ESo. Off with your head. God Damn what is going on around here with these fucking people. This shit is bizarro world.
Use a sharp blade @VictorSteinerDavion so that it will be quick. What in the actual fuck is wrong with you man? He just reported something to you about a mod and you went ballistic. I'm sure I will get some of your meaningless bucket language as a response but damn dude.
ESOTERICshade ago
Word. When I got up this morning and looked at that conversation again it was like taking a space ride into another dimension of mind fuckville. I had to get another cup of coffee and read it again and it still said the same thing. Told the man the mod wasn't up to snuff and he Gitmo me. What a zoo.
Your comment made me laugh though. Thanx for the smile. I had a mental pic of me in my GPS dog collar headed for the guillotine at Gitmo and I busted out laughing out loud...fuck this crazy place man.
ESOTERICshade ago
I see. Reporting behavior of a moderator gets a poster put on a shit list. I figured this might happen. So much for democracy in the community. Reporting more than one instance of bad mod behavior is not tolerated. Wanting to replace a misbehaving moderator with a one that behaves correctly is a "witch hunt."
VictorSteinerDavion ago
Again with the misdirection and lies.
Fabricating a situation where you dribble information to get an outcome gets you on a shitlist.
Only coming forward with speculative informaiton (you still haven't posted any links to the stuff in question) gets you on a shit list.
Continually misrepresenting information, and insinuating falsehoods gets you on a shit list.
Wasting my time with drawn out bullshit gets you on a shit list. You could have just posted the information in your first comment, but instead you've drawn this on in some kind of weaksauce melodrama attention whore malarky.
Yet more dishonest misdirection.
Nowhere have you even hinted at a replacement until just now.
Do you have someone in mind? Why did you wait until just now to even raise this concept?
Why did you not state this in your first comment?
Then WHY, why did you conduct yourself in such a roundabout manner?
Why did you not simply present all your claims and supporting information in your first comment?
Why have you misdirected and misrepresented throughout this entire conversation thread?
Why?
Because you are a tool who only wants to drown this subverse in wasteful drama in order to deflect the attention away from the purpose.
I encourage you to continue replying as all you will do is further prove my point that you are not the character you are trying to present
dragonkiller ago
Tells ESO what the penalty is for banning people wrongly. ESO tells it happened multiple times. VSD goes whack on it. Right dude. Just resign for us like you promised. Bon voyage
dragonkiller ago
That is crap. ESO gave you a violation. You told him what the penalty was. He then told you the violation happened more than once. Now you want to back track and start making up shit. The rules are whatever you say they are to fit your whims at the moment. You are so cold busted. No wonder nobody is bothering to try to talk to you.
ESOTERICshade ago
Deflection. Another term for you are always wrong. And I am not deflecting. Its the truth in this sub. You know that. You can nit pick me on the word "always" if you want to but essentially you know I am telling the truth because you see what goes on around here.
VictorSteinerDavion ago
You deflected. And you are furthering that deflection. You could take a moment to self reflect on this if you are as you claim to be.
I do see what goes on around here.
And you are not telling the truth, because your comment implies I said a thing that I did not - this is deflection and is misleading.
You are misleading people towards a conclusion that is not true.
Think on this, consider it and if I can see you have done this I will reconsider my opinion of you
ESOTERICshade ago
Some priceless bullshit right there. And you thought that would fly exactly why?
dragonkiller ago
You are one seriously delusional piece of work. You got down voted because people do not agree with you.. Telling everybody your down votes mean that somebody is dishonest. Your credibility is zero in spite of your flowery language bait.