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elitch2 ago

Q is Trump.

Troll level - 6 gorillion

bopper ago

According to Dr. Jerome Corsi, Q is highly trained, high level military intel, trained in psychology, and this is the reason for the release of info a little at a time, so that it can be assimilated and distributed. To drop all info that they have, at once, is not tenable and not wise. Redpilled folks can handle it, but these revelations that are coming are for everyone.

For example, what if I walked up to someone (even an open minded person who embraces other "conspiracies"), and told them flat out, in one fell swoop, hey, we never went to the moon. I would be shut down. That's too much at one time. The person would have to be "led," and slowly take the same journey others took, until that light bulb moment takes place for them, as it did for others. Something like that.

As many on here want others to embrace some of the truths and controversies surrounding Hitler and the Nazis and the alleged Holocaust, yet they want to shove it down others' throats, and not allow others the same time and study they took themselves in these matters of discovery process. (Nazi Germany is just an example.)

hopeforall ago

It's very possible we never went to the moon. In the rush to prove superiority against the soviets they may have faked a moon landing so it's plausible, except for one thing, the laser reflector. People can do their own experiments and point their own lasers at the point on the moon where the reflector is located and get back a reflected light beam. The distance from earth to the moon can be measured by sending pulses of laser light to the reflector and measuring the timing of the pulses as they return.

I think most people are very open minded and can discuss and debate things the way I just did, so don't underestimate people. The elites do this all the time, they think of the rest of us as sheep.

dassaer ago

The size of the reflectors are too small (1m3) to be 'hit' from earth borne lasers and reflected. The surface of the moon can reflect laser light by itself (as research previous to moon landings has shown). As an aside can you find me the co-ordinates for these 'highly used' reflectors??

hopeforall ago

Huh. Nice work. I had thought about it. I wondered if it was posible for a beam that fine to be reflected off the the surface of the moon. It would have to be very reflective though.

dassaer ago

There is quite a bit of good info around about this, from memory i think they began reflecting lasers from the moon surface itself around 1962 or so and continually mapped out a lot of the best reflecting areas(coordinates). Also as other people have said, one of the more notable problems is the huge amount of spread from the beam as it travels to the moon. Trying to hit a target area of 1square meter on the moon, using a beam that covers a square km by the time it gets there , wether or not it 'pings' the reflector or not, will still be reflected back by the surface. It is more fantasy that sounds good until you really start investigating actual specifics.

Conclusion = In the simplest terms, No one can tell if its a reflector on the surface or the surface itself returning the beam.

ESOTERICshade ago

It's very possible we never went to the moon.

I'm not sure what the truth is about going to the moon but there is ample evidence of NASA faking space footage.

NASA Fails Again & Again

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=nS0VN056d68

hopeforall ago

That is weird. It's like some messed up green screen. Honestly I don't know. Some things just seem too big of a technological challenge, even now like going to the moon and the ISS. I often wonder if the shuttle orbiting earth was one of the first real space launches in history, and the manned missions prior to that like the moon landings were in fact faked. At the time the US was competing with the soviets for technological supremacy. The Soviets even had their own plans to go to the moon with a craft of similar design to the Apollo Lunar Module, but they cancelled the launch.

Maybe neither nation could really go to the moon as it proved too difficult but NASA didnt want to admit it, and never did. Maybe they wanted to show up the Soviets to discourage them from trying to keep up with the US.

I think the unmanned missions and satellite launches are real, I just wonder how far away from Earth manned missions have really gone, if at all. But I don't understand why they are trying to fake the ISS missions, when it's supposed to be a joint effort between the Russians, USA, and European countries, the cold war is over so why do they want to deceive the public?

ESOTERICshade ago

The weirdest part to me is that they claimed they "lost" the technology required to go to the moon. That does not wash at all.


But I don't understand why they are trying to fake the ISS missions, when it's supposed to be a joint effort between the Russians, USA, and European countries, the cold war is over so why do they want to deceive the public?

NASA has been caught faking stuff many times. I don't know how many of their claims are false and how many are true. I can only guess the reason they lie is because NASA is used as a funnel for money. Maybe they use that money for black projects. This lady certainly seems to think so. She has some good videos on her channel about the California fires too.

NASA WAR DOCUMENT vs HUMANITY FOUND ON NASA SITE. MAKE...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gARZ-Gttjn4

hopeforall ago

Black budget.

4_InquiringMinds ago

so it's plausible, except for one thing, the laser reflector. People can do their own experiments and point their own lasers at the point on the moon where the reflector is located and get back a reflected light beam.

A plethora of information about the reported lasers left by the nauts. Might want to explore such. It's just a damn shame that nasa lost all the original moon landing data bc if nasa had not lost it then we could be going back n forth like a breeze.

hopeforall ago

The fact they claim they lost that information makes me think it could be fake. I mean how do they lose something so important? Either it's fake or they're just really incompetent.

4_InquiringMinds ago

I do hope you realize I was being sarcastic :)

Have you ever seen McGowan's site and his series Wagging the MoonDoggie? Dave is now doa/was in perfect health and then quite out of the blue came down with a fast acting cancer. While ppl do have such encounters and one wonders why if he was being taken out 'they' didn't do it sooner, still gives one pause. Perhaps, if he was eliminated, he was working on something else that needed to be silenced/I don't know. He was super nice. I wrote him once with a question and he was kind enough to answer altho he had no information on the subject.

For moi, after reading his series there is no way in hell I could even remotely believe the US went to the moon. It simply is not physically possible. He has lots of other series too that expose many things.

Wagging the Moondoggie

hopeforall ago

Yeah. It's not possible they just lost that information. Seems like this guy was trying to expose something.

4_InquiringMinds ago

The reason I have pause with Q is if you look at some core tenants from Q, military is our friend (war criminals) and martial law is good (nothing to be afraid of, trump et all are in control)...those two things alone should be very concerning (to say the least). There are many Q instances that are rather imho scary and the promotion of the savior motif is promoted in religions/we don't have to do anything, just keep the faith and the savior of whatever flavor will make everything alright. Q has a lot of references to keep praying. The strong religious tone of Q is another concern of mine. Humanity is supposed to evolve which requires each being to evolve and discover what being humane really means/not some savior that will make everything okay. Especially a savior that promotes the expansion of the military industrial complex and martial law. Look at the cabinet, look at the DOJ that has not managed to accomplish anything but going after marijuana and increasing private prisons. The whole immigrant situation that keeps the masses fired up isn't really about removing illegal immigrants (trump is increasing work vistas, H1B etc) but to usher in a national biometric ID for every citizen. Health care has always been about one payer (when there are a multitude of ways to make health care affordable) which will eventually lead to mandated vaccinations for all (including adults) and a 'pathway' (ck out England) when it is decided the person is no longer worth saving.

I don't think Q is a larp. I think Q is proving to be a very effective propaganda campaign.

“And it seems to me perfectly in the cards that there will be within the next generation or so a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing … a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda, brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods.” Aldous Huxley, 1959

ESOTERICshade ago

You hit the nail on the head 4_InquiringMinds. I think Q is dangerous. The references to martial law, the savior, etc....It should be enough to make any thinking person resist it. Q is harnessing the public to usher in a new cabal that certainly does not have the common person's best interest at heart.

hopeforall ago

The price of democracy is eternal vigilance is what John Curran said.

bopper ago

But don't let that reflector argument outweigh other evidence. I'm just saying, eliminate everything that is impossible, and whatever is left, however improbable, is the truth. For example, if you see that the preponderance of evidence is towards no moon landing, and you reach a point where you cannot deny it, then you would, or should, have to rest assured, that there is a suitable and reasonable explanation for the reflector situation, whether you know what it is now or not.

Such a knotty problem can be later unraveled.