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Vindicator ago

@ArtificialDuality: There is no reference to "Alice in Wonderland" in the QAnon leaks. It's "Alice and Wonderland". Have you actually read the leaks? Please cite some other references that make you think this is "controlled opposition." People are saying it's a LARP, but almost no one is claiming it's controlled. QAnon goes to great lengths to emphasize the problem is massive and worldwide and has required extreme measures of coordination to break the web of corruption. And confirmation that is happening has since come from Saudi Arabia, Zimbabwe, and Lebanon.

crazycycle ago

It also depends on what @ArtificialDuality means by opposition. Opposition to the people, to Trump, etc. I agree that it will be a controlled culling, but probably disagree on who is controlling it. It needs to be controlled, because the world is too intertwined and uncontrolled culling could cause world-wide chaos. But fundamentally, I think his theory is based on Trump being part of the "NWO." Also, VoL is an obvious larp.

I think Q is an insider. The most convincing is the NK shot in the Asia video. That shot was deliberately edited in from a different stash of videos. Why, unless it was a message to autists and the shadow cabal. The only thing I'm not sure about is how much of it is disinfo directed at the shadow cabal lurkers.

Vindicator ago

I think Q is an insider. The most convincing is the NK shot in the Asia video. That shot was deliberately edited in from a different stash of videos.

Interesting. What do you think was being communicated by the insertion of the NK plane window pic? Was it dick-wagging, like "See, we can fly over Rocket Man and violate his airspace unscathed"? Or the fact that the outline of the window + the jet engine make a "Q"?

crazycycle ago

Q's been asking about NK repeatedly, making innuendo, etc. NK is on everyone's radar. I think the insertion was a message to /pol/ that Q is a legit insider and to follow closer. However, if we accept the possibility that Trump is still surrounded by shadow agents, then Q could still be an elaborate shadow psyop who is very close to the WH, but definitely not a LARP. Either way, it's mostly all disinfo, imo. The questions and information are good and interesting, but the "happenings" are required to be disinfo, because all hats are watching. Also, I think Q is US based and did not travel with POTUS. No way anyone on that trip had the time, freedom, or security to post like Q did. And he's probably been quiet past few days because POTUS and team are back and now they have to catch up on briefings and such.

The NK footage could be from anytime and taken by anyone. It could even be NK footage brought out by a defector, footage taken by SK business men, etc. What makes the video striking to me is that Q had access to it and had it inserted into POTUS's Asia video. Let's get one thing clear, AF1 did not fly into NK on this trip.

Vindicator ago

I find the whole thing fascinating. Do you know if anyone has done a side-by-side comparison of the timing of the Q posts and the known itinerary of the Asia delegation? As I've been reading through them, it struck me how abbreviated they are, like text messages or tweets rather than message board comments composed at a computer. Seems like it could be done on the fly. A comparison could rule out the delegation members, potentially though.

crazycycle ago

I don't know of any side-by-side comparisons, but I'll ask around. Agreed that the sentence structures are very simple, but since it's mostly a series of questions, I don't feel that it tells much. Also, he mentions that the order is important, which means some thought had to go into how to organize the questions. But that could just be disinfo. So much of it has to be disinfo, I don't follow it as closely as I initially did.

Basically, the only thing Q is asking of /pol/ is to become a bridge/messenger. All else is uncertain.

Also, do you know if the sealed indictments are related to the MS13 sweeps? Very disappointing, if that was the case.

Vindicator ago

I haven't heard confirmation they are MS13 or for that matter that a bunch of unsealed MS13 indictments resulting from the sweep have turned up, either. That would be an interesting line of research.

Just out of curiosity, why do you feel so much of Q's comments have to be disinfo?

crazycycle ago

First, I don't think there's an incentive for Trump & Co to telegraph anything on /pol/ or anywhere else. But, they do have an incentive to launch a disinfo Op against the shadow government for the upcoming storm. Conversely, there's great risk for Trump & Co to telegraph stuff on /pol/. The current power dynamic is so different from pre-election, when FBIAnon might have felt it was necessary to leak on /pol/. In the current dynamic, I just don't see Trump needing to go on /pol/ for anything but disinfo and fun.

Also, Q telling /pol/ they are the only ones who can save the world is hilarious ego stroking, imo. So far, the only mission requested of /pol/ by Q is for them to connect the dots and meme it to the normies. But, for anyone paying attention, Trump & Co already work with Hannity and he's been disseminating the truth about U1, Seth Rich, etc. to MILLIONS of people, every single night. Admittedly, it's different type of information, but can /pol/ actually figure out the truth about NK and disseminate it? No. It's not even possible for /pol/ to get verifiable confirmation on any NK theory. It's kind of retarded, in that sense.

I also kind of think it's possible that Trump was talking about Hollywood when he mentioned the storm and not some giant military operation. When Q was going on and on and on and on about martial law, it was most likely a way to force a stand down of the 11/4 "revolution". What better way to prevent the need for martial law, than to repeat martial law threats, over and over and over again. When that was happening, the entire message chain was meant for the shadow agents, not /pol/. That's how I see it anyways.

Vindicator ago

When Q was going on and on and on and on about martial law, it was most likely a way to force a stand down of the 11/4 "revolution".

I absolutely agree with this. Especially if you add the fact that hundreds of antifa had already been arrested and were being prosecuted from Berkeley and other riots, and possibly a big dent had been put in the funding sources -- evidenced by the Saudi takedowns. I thought the FBIAnon references to the danger of civil war were intended to have the same inoculating effect.

Also, Q telling /pol/ they are the only ones who can save the world is hilarious ego stroking

Did he specify it was up to just them? I don't remember seeing that. I saw "spread it far and wide" and that it was up to the People to get the word out, which FBIAnon also said. There have been a couple of users here, and a couple I've run across on Twitter that struck me as likely insiders sharing the same messages as Q and FBIAnon, in a very low key way that give me a pretty strong sense /pol/ is not the only venue for this comm operation.

crazycycle ago

Maybe not in exact terms, but he alluded to it several times and there were discussions about it prior to, I think, CBST #112 or #120, when /pol/ was taken offline for a couple of hours. Those interactions didn't make it onto any of the graphics. They were about why /pol/ was sooooo important, how smart and talented they were, etc. etc. Maybe those posts were LARPs? Which reminds me of another reason why I thought so much of Q was disinfo. Whoever initially made the Q map left out some important posts that seemed authentic, but the graphic was confirmed by Q. Were the left out posts LARPs? Was Q being careless with his confirmation? Were those posts authentic, but deliberately left out, due to changing circumstances? Was Q the initial map maker and left stuff out? We'll never know.

Also, is there something more important /pol/ could be doing other than waiting on more Q? Maybe expose more of Hollywood, while the snowballing has momentum? Meme U1? If so much of what Q alludes to is timely misdirection (ML, SA), is the storm actually a forceful LE sweep of elites or could the storm just be sexual allegations that are snowballing and mushrooming, right now? What could /pol/ be doing today, instead of hitting refresh, waiting for Q? Does Trump want /pol/ to stand down for the time being? Is that what Q is all about?

I really don't know what to make of Q, except I think he is real, but much of what he alludes to is disinfo.