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VictorSteinerDavion ago

My issue is with the definition of the word "elites".

The word has different connotations in different regions, and as such different readers have different ideas about who the word refers to.

Swapping elites for "Those with authority and power, meaning political, judicial, religious or corporate"

Semantically it means the same thing, but any connotations and assumptions are removed by the expanded sentence.

For many the word elites focuses attention on the visible people at the top of the pile and omits the non-visible people that support actively them but few people know about.

For example a possible draft could be:


1: Relevance: Posts must be directly relevant to investigation of the organised and systemic sexual/physical abuse and/or murder of children by those with authority and power, meaning; political, judicial, religious or corporate.
Topics in focus are: child trafficking, systemic & ritualised abuse of children, and/or cover-up of these activities and/or the protection/assistance provided to the people who engage in said activities.
See definition of Pizzagate and examples of relevant posts.


It is a bit overly broad in this first rough attempt, maybe some word-smith can find a way to tighten it up.
The re-wording is intended to avoid the flood of posts about singular individuals who do these things and force a focus on systematised groups that do these things and use their positions in government, churches and big corporations to hide the activity.
By going for the organised abuse the singular individuals will be exposed anyway, but the applied effort of the community has a greater effect.

This is pretty much the same thing as the definition in the sidebar rules, but maybe it's enough of a change to move past this issue without opening the barn door to disruptors and wagon hopping agenda pushers.

argosciv ago

Include "community services" (ie police, fire, medical, neighborhood watch, childcare, etc) and it's perfect, imo.

carmencita ago

Imo, what you just said is very important. Children look up to these people. They trust them, and they hold a position of power.

Factfinder2 ago

And there are many documented cases of child abuse by these people.

carmencita ago

I just got through arguing this point with another goater. We were arguing with a pedo. Nasty business. Yes, there are a few things that need to be changed also, but the main thing is the 100 points problem. Then also I do not like when they give out numbers to people when people can't come up with a name. When people have a label or name it is easier to recall, but numbers, especially longer ones are totally confusing.