Before responding, take a moment to learn the history of the PG subverse here.
Once you've done that, understand that giving mods the ability to moderate based on their knowledge of the narrative invites mods that will steer the narrative using their mod tools.
You'll get mods that allow this:
The Rule 1 problem is the biggest problem in the subverse in my opinion. Tons of quality material like children being given hormone blockers at age 3, Planned Parenthood misleading children to believe that a person is not male/female at birth using the word "gender", organ harvesting, etc...
... and delete real PG leads.
The original idea of this subverse was to have a running ARCHIVE of everything, because no other place seemed to be safe to do so. Posts being constant links and re-links to known solid direct connections to PG with a new connection highlighted for others to look at and follow. After a while, parts of that should have gone into this sticky, and would be considered more or less canon for future leads.
The original idea of the RULES of this subverse was to keep everything in a very structured and easily-parsed format, allowing the mods to simply clean up the stuff that wasn't formatted properly, and didn't pass the direct-link muster. This would prevent the mods from pushing their own narrative, and allow them to keep the place clean enough so that both the new and the veteran could pick up the torch with relative ease.
Now to the discussion of the rule, and the possible changing of this entire subverse.
If you want a modification of any part of rule 1, state clearly the exact part(s) and justify your position.
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VictorSteinerDavion ago
My issue is with the definition of the word "elites".
The word has different connotations in different regions, and as such different readers have different ideas about who the word refers to.
Swapping elites for "Those with authority and power, meaning political, judicial, religious or corporate"
Semantically it means the same thing, but any connotations and assumptions are removed by the expanded sentence.
For many the word elites focuses attention on the visible people at the top of the pile and omits the non-visible people that support actively them but few people know about.
For example a possible draft could be:
1: Relevance: Posts must be directly relevant to investigation of the organised and systemic sexual/physical abuse and/or murder of children by those with authority and power, meaning; political, judicial, religious or corporate.
Topics in focus are: child trafficking, systemic & ritualised abuse of children, and/or cover-up of these activities and/or the protection/assistance provided to the people who engage in said activities.
See definition of Pizzagate and examples of relevant posts.
It is a bit overly broad in this first rough attempt, maybe some word-smith can find a way to tighten it up.
The re-wording is intended to avoid the flood of posts about singular individuals who do these things and force a focus on systematised groups that do these things and use their positions in government, churches and big corporations to hide the activity.
By going for the organised abuse the singular individuals will be exposed anyway, but the applied effort of the community has a greater effect.
This is pretty much the same thing as the definition in the sidebar rules, but maybe it's enough of a change to move past this issue without opening the barn door to disruptors and wagon hopping agenda pushers.
darkknight111 ago
Excellent idea. You earned an Aye from me on that.
twistedmac11 ago
This makes the most sense to me. I understand not wanting to allow shill posts and I agree 100%, but at the same time, I think there are quality posts getting deleted because they fall just outside of the small umbrella that is Rule 1.
Dressage2 ago
I have to agree as well. Many well-researched posts by respected researchers get deleted. We know these people are not shills and should be allowed to post their well-intended research.
argosciv ago
Include "community services" (ie police, fire, medical, neighborhood watch, childcare, etc) and it's perfect, imo.
Forgetmenot ago
I agree with this as well.
Judgejewdy ago
Obviously . they are the henchmen of the elite. The big players don't do their own dirty work. It's foolish and ignorant to ignore this aspect of PG. But of course if we start looking into the practical ways PG plays out rather than the theoretical/esoteric, something might actually get done/get discovered... Not surprising mods have consistently shot down this line of investigation.
carmencita ago
Oh God, why would anyone downvoat your comment? I guess that is obvious to All True Warriors.
carmencita ago
Imo, what you just said is very important. Children look up to these people. They trust them, and they hold a position of power.
Factfinder2 ago
And there are many documented cases of child abuse by these people.
carmencita ago
I just got through arguing this point with another goater. We were arguing with a pedo. Nasty business. Yes, there are a few things that need to be changed also, but the main thing is the 100 points problem. Then also I do not like when they give out numbers to people when people can't come up with a name. When people have a label or name it is easier to recall, but numbers, especially longer ones are totally confusing.