Could the evidence of a political hit and coverup get any greater?
The fact that this hasn't been investigated thoroughly says all you need to know about how D.C. works.
I also feel like this is a great red pill opportunity that almost anyone can understand and it doesn't have the "crazy" factor that many of the conspiracies do
What does it matter if this guy was at the White House or Six Flags? So he dresses up and brings his family to his super secret murder conspiracy meeting? This is the straw people are grasping at. He takes and posts pictures to his facebook of the day he went to the super secret murder conspiracy meeting? Why wouldn't the other conspirator just meet him at a place where they don't keep visitor logs? Like, I dunno, A BAR
And many ”connections” or links are meaningless. I worked with a guy who was related to national politician. I'm less than 6 degrees of separation from Clinton and Trump. It's a meaningless connection. They have no idea I exist.
Even that first link is weak. Haven't seen that guy in years.
I'm sure you notice that whatever information you research will connect you to other ideas and
other information and you continue on and on in that way -- that's what I mean.
But DC is especially like that. True I doubt that you'd want to be connected in any way to Clinton or Trump.
But I'm sure many people in DC knew where to find Seth Rich and about the places where he hung out.
How long did it take anyone in the campaign to figure out that someone at the DNC provided the link?
Or who that might be?
I'm sure you notice that whatever information you research will connect you to other ideas and other information and you continue on and on in that way -- that's what I mean.
Too often, links and connections are the only type of evidence given. No matter how tenuous they may be.
But I'm sure many people in DC knew where to find Seth Rich and about the places where he hung out.
I doubt this would be true. Probably only his friends and bar mates knew. How many people knew who Seth Rich was? He was not a public figure in any way.
How long did it take anyone in the campaign to figure out that someone at the DNC provided the link? Or who that might be?
There's an old saying that "All information (study or research) is circular, meaning that no matter where
you begin you eventually end up back where you began."
There are always ideas and concepts and free thought behind every "link" and "connection" --
If, as someone has just done here with Seth Rich, you're led to a YouTube video you will also see
comments where often you find new clues and information -- and new "links."
Much of that new information was supplied by nurses and residents -- one who was actually a fourth
year resident at the place where Seth Rich was taken and was aware of the treatment he had received.
The people who would have been interested in tracking or tailing Seth Rich would know how to find him.
Certainly friends at the DNC would have known some of his habits. You don't have to be a public figure
to have employees or acquaintances know something about your life.
Without doubt, friends at the bar likely knew that he was working at the DNC -- and then the owner of
the bar could have easily have known that, as well.
The first place to look for the leaker of DNC information would, of course, have been among DNC employees.
Meanwhile, Capone's visit to the White House 4 days before seems more than coincidental.
A Federal investigator went off record to state Seth Rich had transferred emails and attachments to Gavin MacFadyen who works for Wikileaks.>
Now if I were Trump I'd be jumping all over this investigation as it would be a great excuse to start investigating crimes committed by the DNC during the election. I guarantee this investigation would lead directly to John Podesta and Hillary Clinton. She may have even ordered the hit. It that's true Trump doesn't even need to re-investigate her email server or the Clinton foundation and the Attorney General can charge her with murder.
There's tons of evidence that two separate world class hacking groups penetrated the DNC servers. This is not a story I told myself. It is the professional opinion of several foresnic security firms, the unamious opinion of the US Intel services and other Intel services who've dealt with the groups of hackers, and a few infosec folks on Twitter I follow.
A Federal investigator went off record to state Seth Rich had transferred emails and attachments to Gavin MacFadyen who works for Wikileaks.
Gavin MacFadyen doesn't work for WikiLeaks or anybody else. He's dead. Died of lung cancer last year, so he's a very convenient point of contact this anonymous "federal investigator" chose so the story would hard to check. Federal investigator are weasel words by the way. Is this investigator in law enforcement? Is he part of the FBI? Probably not because he would know the FBi didn't examine the laptop. This reporter was being played and didn't even do the basic follow up journalism to find out if the FBI ever looked at this laptop.
The Gavin MacFadyen bit is particularly hilarious. A young American leaker who was going to use his regular email would want to do it to Assange. Not this side figure.
Also did you not notice you used this discredited story to then tell yourself a comforting story?
I'm sure that there was world class hacking going on --
but that doesn't mean that Seth Rich didn't leak DNC emails to WikiLeaks as confirmed by
Gavin MacFadyen of WikiLeaks prior to his death -- one more suspicious death connected to WikiLeaks.
If you want to be insulting, do it with someone else. Thanks.
What do you mean confirmed by Gavin MacFayden? So you're sure there's world class hacking going on, but you just ignore that part? They wouldn't steal the emails and send them to wikileaks like they did with the Podesta emails? It's known to be the same group of hackers.
I'm sure of that because Seth Rich had nothing to do with the emails.
But let's consider your point. You have just provided speculation. Highly Unlikely speculation and unsupported by evidence. But somehow it feels right. This is because our brains love to make connections and they love stories. Your speculation comes on top of the original speculation:. That the bartender had anything to do with his death. This is a cognitive flaw in our brains. For some reason the scenario with 2 pieces over speculation seems more likely than the scenario with one piece of speculation. Even though if we examine this we know mathematically it more unlikely. For both pieces of speculation to be true it's like hitting the daily lottery twice in a row. Obviously, the chance of one or the other piece of the information to be true is lower than both being true.
However, our brains likes the scenario where both are true because now we have a story.
Haven't been around much lately, but I can confirm as such a supporter. Many of us are watching closely. And of course the DNC continues to be little more than HRC's poisoned well.
Between Seth and the lawsuit from Bernie supporters for the crap during the primaries, this party deserves nothing less than to collapse.
The ones that immediately switched to Clinton (90%?) even after they knew he was cheated and saw Bernie completely sell out, are team players and will never care.
After Obama's immediate betrayals of the liberal voters who put him in office -- including resurrecting the GOP from the ashes after the election -- that should have been the end of the Dem Party. But, as with Hillary supporters the first time around, many voting Democrats don't draw the line at corporate-fascism.
And, especially after Bernie was cut off from the nomination, I find it hard to believe that 90% of his supporters would have supported the Hillary.
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pizzaequalspedo ago
Could the evidence of a political hit and coverup get any greater?
The fact that this hasn't been investigated thoroughly says all you need to know about how D.C. works.
I also feel like this is a great red pill opportunity that almost anyone can understand and it doesn't have the "crazy" factor that many of the conspiracies do
Are_we__sure ago
Yes. There could actually be some evidence.
What does it matter if this guy was at the White House or Six Flags? So he dresses up and brings his family to his super secret murder conspiracy meeting? This is the straw people are grasping at. He takes and posts pictures to his facebook of the day he went to the super secret murder conspiracy meeting? Why wouldn't the other conspirator just meet him at a place where they don't keep visitor logs? Like, I dunno, A BAR
Votescam ago
Everything is connected -- and we have to presume that in DC that's especially true.
Are_we__sure ago
No. Everything is not connected.
And many ”connections” or links are meaningless. I worked with a guy who was related to national politician. I'm less than 6 degrees of separation from Clinton and Trump. It's a meaningless connection. They have no idea I exist.
Even that first link is weak. Haven't seen that guy in years.
Votescam ago
I'm sure you notice that whatever information you research will connect you to other ideas and other information and you continue on and on in that way -- that's what I mean.
But DC is especially like that. True I doubt that you'd want to be connected in any way to Clinton or Trump.
But I'm sure many people in DC knew where to find Seth Rich and about the places where he hung out.
How long did it take anyone in the campaign to figure out that someone at the DNC provided the link? Or who that might be?
Are_we__sure ago
Too often, links and connections are the only type of evidence given. No matter how tenuous they may be.
What do you mean?
Votescam ago
Let's start again --
There's an old saying that "All information (study or research) is circular, meaning that no matter where you begin you eventually end up back where you began."
There are always ideas and concepts and free thought behind every "link" and "connection" -- If, as someone has just done here with Seth Rich, you're led to a YouTube video you will also see comments where often you find new clues and information -- and new "links."
Much of that new information was supplied by nurses and residents -- one who was actually a fourth year resident at the place where Seth Rich was taken and was aware of the treatment he had received.
The people who would have been interested in tracking or tailing Seth Rich would know how to find him. Certainly friends at the DNC would have known some of his habits. You don't have to be a public figure to have employees or acquaintances know something about your life. Without doubt, friends at the bar likely knew that he was working at the DNC -- and then the owner of the bar could have easily have known that, as well.
The first place to look for the leaker of DNC information would, of course, have been among DNC employees.
Meanwhile, Capone's visit to the White House 4 days before seems more than coincidental.
Are_we__sure ago
The info was not leaked. Tons of evidence that an outside actor penetrated their system.
The only evidence you have for more than a coincidence is a story you told yourself might be true.
Votescam ago
Confirmed: Federal Investigator Seth Rich Leaked 44k To Wikileaks https://steemit.com/news/@wakeupnd/confirmed-federal-investigator-seth-rich-leaked-44k-to-wikileaks
Votescam ago
There is no way you can prove this --
And will return the favor to say that ....
Are_we__sure ago
There's tons of evidence that two separate world class hacking groups penetrated the DNC servers. This is not a story I told myself. It is the professional opinion of several foresnic security firms, the unamious opinion of the US Intel services and other Intel services who've dealt with the groups of hackers, and a few infosec folks on Twitter I follow.
Gavin MacFadyen doesn't work for WikiLeaks or anybody else. He's dead. Died of lung cancer last year, so he's a very convenient point of contact this anonymous "federal investigator" chose so the story would hard to check. Federal investigator are weasel words by the way. Is this investigator in law enforcement? Is he part of the FBI? Probably not because he would know the FBi didn't examine the laptop. This reporter was being played and didn't even do the basic follow up journalism to find out if the FBI ever looked at this laptop.
The Gavin MacFadyen bit is particularly hilarious. A young American leaker who was going to use his regular email would want to do it to Assange. Not this side figure.
Also did you not notice you used this discredited story to then tell yourself a comforting story?
Votescam ago
I'm sure that there was world class hacking going on -- but that doesn't mean that Seth Rich didn't leak DNC emails to WikiLeaks as confirmed by Gavin MacFadyen of WikiLeaks prior to his death -- one more suspicious death connected to WikiLeaks.
If you want to be insulting, do it with someone else. Thanks.
Are_we__sure ago
What do you mean confirmed by Gavin MacFayden? So you're sure there's world class hacking going on, but you just ignore that part? They wouldn't steal the emails and send them to wikileaks like they did with the Podesta emails? It's known to be the same group of hackers.
Insulting? I thought I was returning your serve.
Votescam ago
What I mean is that it is confirmed that Seth Rich sent emails to WikiLeaks.
You're free to believe whatever you want.
Otherwise, best wishes --
Are_we__sure ago
No.
That is absolutely not confirmed. It's a claim.
Someone claimed that the FBI scanned Rich's computer and determined he sent emails to WikiLeaks
The FBI disputes this claim. The DC police dispute this claim. They both say the FBI never touched his laptop.
Nothing is confirmed.
Votescam ago
As I said, you're free to believe whatever you want.
Good luck!
Aloha808 ago
Are we sure that the owner or bar manager never overheard Seth Rich talking about anything from the 40,000 emails and 17,000 attachments?
Are_we__sure ago
I'm sure of that because Seth Rich had nothing to do with the emails.
But let's consider your point. You have just provided speculation. Highly Unlikely speculation and unsupported by evidence. But somehow it feels right. This is because our brains love to make connections and they love stories. Your speculation comes on top of the original speculation:. That the bartender had anything to do with his death. This is a cognitive flaw in our brains. For some reason the scenario with 2 pieces over speculation seems more likely than the scenario with one piece of speculation. Even though if we examine this we know mathematically it more unlikely. For both pieces of speculation to be true it's like hitting the daily lottery twice in a row. Obviously, the chance of one or the other piece of the information to be true is lower than both being true.
However, our brains likes the scenario where both are true because now we have a story.
Mad_As_Hell ago
Agreed, surely all the Bernie supporters out there in particular must be asking themselves a lot of questions about the DNC right now
nomorepepperoni ago
Haven't been around much lately, but I can confirm as such a supporter. Many of us are watching closely. And of course the DNC continues to be little more than HRC's poisoned well.
Between Seth and the lawsuit from Bernie supporters for the crap during the primaries, this party deserves nothing less than to collapse.
AlfredJProofrock ago
Seth Rich hung out at gay bars.
https://voat.co/v/news/1864489
Seth discovered that kek's were stealing DNC files, so the keks took out seth, then tried to blame hillary,
The irony here is that Seth loved Hillary Clinton, and would never harm the DNC, his lifes ambition was to work for DNC
Trump alt-tards chose the wrong guy for their meme
100% of the voat keks are ignoring what seth rich's parents are saying, ... why is that?
Why is it that Kek's no more than the guy's own parents??
pizzaequalspedo ago
The ones that immediately switched to Clinton (90%?) even after they knew he was cheated and saw Bernie completely sell out, are team players and will never care.
Votescam ago
After Obama's immediate betrayals of the liberal voters who put him in office -- including resurrecting the GOP from the ashes after the election -- that should have been the end of the Dem Party. But, as with Hillary supporters the first time around, many voting Democrats don't draw the line at corporate-fascism.
And, especially after Bernie was cut off from the nomination, I find it hard to believe that 90% of his supporters would have supported the Hillary.
Do you have a link for that?
Empire_of_the_mind ago
i think 50% supported Clinton at best. Bernie voters hate her and DNC guts. Natural allies.