To recapitulate yet again, over the last twenty-two years of broadcasting, Jones has devoted more airtime to tell the sordid story of satanic child sex slavery than any other person, living or dead. And every one of the charges you make against Jones in the post you linked is challengeable. To do so in any way that could be considered complete including citations would require something like six hours of painstaking work, and no one is going to commit that kind of time in this forum. However, I am so sickened by the constant vicious attacks on Jones's efforts to combat CP and satanic child sex slavery, I am very tempted to post a stand alone thread at VOAT that contains a quintessential demonstration of how shortsighted you and other Jones bashers are. Yes, even better than how I destroyed you at the conclusion of our dialogue in the first one above.
You're a serial troublemaker V___Z Don't pretend you care about the kids. I don't expect a reponse from you, because the truth is hard to answer.
I remember how devastated he was last fall when this was getting out, he was weeping knowing what was being done to kids. I have a good bullshit detector, and Jones is sincere. Something happened behind the scenes and while I think Alex wouldn't be intimidated by threats to himself, he would be if people he cared about were. Look how Milo and Cernovich were slammed and smeared, ((they)) are systematically discrediting the most well known of what they labeled 'alt right.'
He bashes himself. If you're sickened by people pointing out the obvious, rethink your hero worship cause it's getting unhealthy for you.
Your argument makes no sense: over 20 years of broadcasting, if he's only 60% correct, is still going to mean he's one of the most prolific shock jocks on any topic he's covered. Do you know the definition of a limited hangout disinfo operation? Because you've just described it, in part. but you claim you can account for every mistake or misstep, which is dishonest. To say you won every debate on this topic is also dishonest. You simply decided that when Jones lies, it's OK but he mostly tells the truth and why am I being so hard on him. Silliness.
The limited hangout/disinfo operation was in fact applied by the very agencies you claim he works for. CIA and the rest of the black hats in the intelligence community and law enforcement drool with delight whenever Jones followers are led away by their coordinated propaganda campaign that he's actually one of them. It's provable, but not here. You're a dupe.
In it, do you not offer reasonably strong support of Cernovich?
Did you know Cernovich was a guest on Jones's show the other day? Shouldn't Cernovich be ruled a gatekeeper/cointelpro/disinfo/mossad/stratfor asset for associating with Jones, and if so, does this not contradict the main thrust of your thread?
You are either a hypocrite, or wrong. Which is it?
Hmmm... I'd watch the holy part. To be perfectly honest, I believe that the only thing that can stop this is God. Jesus, to be precise. But we can help by continuing to shout and awaken our fellow man to the reality that involves someone who almost became president. Jones is a ferocious defender of Christ, and Christ knows all of Jones's many faults, but they are offset by his deep desire to stop the worst crimes against children. If you were remotely Christian, as you seem to imply, you'd pull back on the attacks for this reason alone.
Are you kidding me? Listen to this man you seem to worship:
"You fucking Goddamn fucker! Listen fuckhead! You have fucking crosses the line! Get that through your Goddamn fucking head! You're the people that fucked this country over and gang raped the shit out of it! Stop shooting your mouth off and claiming I'm the enemy - you got that, you Goddamned son of a bitch?! https://youtu.be/C1v6PyThQv8?t=2m48s
Hmmm... It must be acknowledged that your video is highly edited, meaning I have no context whatsoever of what prompted the remarks. Mind you, I have an imagination, which means I believe someone probably said something highly enraging, probably something along the lines of what you've been saying about him at VOAT time and again. The fact that the video is edited and does not include context is proof of intent to misrepresent. Why not include it? This is typical of the kind of tactics used by his enemies.
Regardless, Jones is human. This is raw human emotion any of us can experience, especially when we're being attacked. It's not pretty, but it's inevitable on occasion. So far as my opinion of Jones and his commitment to God and protecting children, your video demonstrates nothing to change my mind.
He (Cernovich) proves he does have access to intel. In this Periscope, he says he knows that the pedophile rings across the globe are all connected, and that the Saudis are buying kids from Haiti. He insinuates that the whole thing will be exposed according to a well thought out schedule; there is a reason it hasn't been released yet. He says he has the whole story, and has given it to a couple of people as a "dead man switch".
He doesn't go into much more detail, but this is good news for us. It hasn't been swept under the rug.
He actually answers this very question in detail in his Periscope, but if you're committed to being cynical I'm gonna stop you.
*
Listen to his whole periscope, you'll get an answer to your question ( at least as much info that is available on this particular question )*
Wants to be famous? He was made famous, if not beforehand, just this past Sunday when he was featured on 60 minutes. Why are you so negative?
These are very favorable remarks of yours about a recent guest on Jones's show. Jones had Cernovich (who you like) on for a reason. The reason is, Jones wants arrests of pedophiles as much or more than you do. The previous sentence is true or false?
For FUCKS SAKE. You are really stretching here. Find me a place where I ever claimed that anything Jones has looked at, touched, interviewed, was guilty by association. In fact, I have said he is a limited hangout. LIMITED meaning he does speak truth but in a limited way, like Wikileaks. The CIA isn't going to make it obvious, they have to make it look like he's their enemy. But dude, his own father and half his family is CIA. Come ON. He acts ridiculous, yells and then calls Alefantis innocent, making up a story about the govt probably dropping fake emails to frame him, without offering evidence. He says we shouldn't look at Comet, and that he'll take the reigns from here, as the pizzagate community has obviously been led astray. NO THE FUCK WE HAVEN'T. And we never "ran to Comet" to the exclusion of other leads from Podesta emails, as Jones states. Nor did he, as he also claims. He needs to step the fuck back, he's already admitted he's not going to be fully exposing pizzagate, so why would anyone follow what he says about it now?
You're a lost cause V___Z. The fact Jones has connections to some who have been in the CIA is called an asset. It's the ability to get information that would otherwise not be available. Would you like some dork who knows no one and therefore nothing doling out your deep state truth for the day? There are several former CIA agents working tirelessly for the last decade to get the truth out. They put their lives on the line for the rest of us, but fools like you don't put any faith in them because you buy into the line that once with the agency always with the agency. I have news. The agency created this myth to make agents who go rogue impotent. Their particular names escape me at the moment, but I might update once some come to me. At least two have been on Jones's Show and also John B Wells's show. You're a dupe of the system V____Z. They've got your number real good.
In so far as the CPP Alefantis retraction, I've explained it in detail elsewhere. Don't pretend you didn't read it.
Re: Those ex CIA saying death defying things - Kevin Shipp and Ray McGovern. Scott Bennett also comes to mind, although Scott was Army Special Ops Officer and Psych Warfare Analyst. May update again as other names come to mind. You can add William Binney to the list. Not CIA, but worked for nasty alphabet agency nonetheless, and thus is a solid demonstration that not all former alphabet agents are working for the agency from the outside.
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V____Z ago
No. Just no. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1618655
rwb ago
V___Z, I thoroughly destroyed you here:
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1760863/8623600/10#8623600
... and yet you're back for more??
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1754846/8595738/10#8595738
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1760863/8623414/10#8623414
To recapitulate yet again, over the last twenty-two years of broadcasting, Jones has devoted more airtime to tell the sordid story of satanic child sex slavery than any other person, living or dead. And every one of the charges you make against Jones in the post you linked is challengeable. To do so in any way that could be considered complete including citations would require something like six hours of painstaking work, and no one is going to commit that kind of time in this forum. However, I am so sickened by the constant vicious attacks on Jones's efforts to combat CP and satanic child sex slavery, I am very tempted to post a stand alone thread at VOAT that contains a quintessential demonstration of how shortsighted you and other Jones bashers are. Yes, even better than how I destroyed you at the conclusion of our dialogue in the first one above.
You're a serial troublemaker V___Z Don't pretend you care about the kids. I don't expect a reponse from you, because the truth is hard to answer.
BlackManta ago
I remember how devastated he was last fall when this was getting out, he was weeping knowing what was being done to kids. I have a good bullshit detector, and Jones is sincere. Something happened behind the scenes and while I think Alex wouldn't be intimidated by threats to himself, he would be if people he cared about were. Look how Milo and Cernovich were slammed and smeared, ((they)) are systematically discrediting the most well known of what they labeled 'alt right.'
V____Z ago
He bashes himself. If you're sickened by people pointing out the obvious, rethink your hero worship cause it's getting unhealthy for you.
Your argument makes no sense: over 20 years of broadcasting, if he's only 60% correct, is still going to mean he's one of the most prolific shock jocks on any topic he's covered. Do you know the definition of a limited hangout disinfo operation? Because you've just described it, in part. but you claim you can account for every mistake or misstep, which is dishonest. To say you won every debate on this topic is also dishonest. You simply decided that when Jones lies, it's OK but he mostly tells the truth and why am I being so hard on him. Silliness.
I hit enter too soon, here are the proofs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1v6PyThQv8
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1760863/8623239
rwb ago
The limited hangout/disinfo operation was in fact applied by the very agencies you claim he works for. CIA and the rest of the black hats in the intelligence community and law enforcement drool with delight whenever Jones followers are led away by their coordinated propaganda campaign that he's actually one of them. It's provable, but not here. You're a dupe.
micha_ ago
Just by reading your and his comments it's so obvious who is honest and who is a POS.
V____Z ago
You are a piece of work. I don't enjoy you one bit.
rwb ago
Is this your thread? https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1766738
In it, do you not offer reasonably strong support of Cernovich?
Did you know Cernovich was a guest on Jones's show the other day? Shouldn't Cernovich be ruled a gatekeeper/cointelpro/disinfo/mossad/stratfor asset for associating with Jones, and if so, does this not contradict the main thrust of your thread?
You are either a hypocrite, or wrong. Which is it?
V____Z ago
WHAT ON EARTH ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT.
Holy fuck, this argument is ridiculous.
rwb ago
Hmmm... I'd watch the holy part. To be perfectly honest, I believe that the only thing that can stop this is God. Jesus, to be precise. But we can help by continuing to shout and awaken our fellow man to the reality that involves someone who almost became president. Jones is a ferocious defender of Christ, and Christ knows all of Jones's many faults, but they are offset by his deep desire to stop the worst crimes against children. If you were remotely Christian, as you seem to imply, you'd pull back on the attacks for this reason alone.
V____Z ago
Are you kidding me? Listen to this man you seem to worship:
"You fucking Goddamn fucker! Listen fuckhead! You have fucking crosses the line! Get that through your Goddamn fucking head! You're the people that fucked this country over and gang raped the shit out of it! Stop shooting your mouth off and claiming I'm the enemy - you got that, you Goddamned son of a bitch?! https://youtu.be/C1v6PyThQv8?t=2m48s
rwb ago
Hmmm... It must be acknowledged that your video is highly edited, meaning I have no context whatsoever of what prompted the remarks. Mind you, I have an imagination, which means I believe someone probably said something highly enraging, probably something along the lines of what you've been saying about him at VOAT time and again. The fact that the video is edited and does not include context is proof of intent to misrepresent. Why not include it? This is typical of the kind of tactics used by his enemies.
Regardless, Jones is human. This is raw human emotion any of us can experience, especially when we're being attacked. It's not pretty, but it's inevitable on occasion. So far as my opinion of Jones and his commitment to God and protecting children, your video demonstrates nothing to change my mind.
rwb ago
Your words:
He (Cernovich) proves he does have access to intel. In this Periscope, he says he knows that the pedophile rings across the globe are all connected, and that the Saudis are buying kids from Haiti. He insinuates that the whole thing will be exposed according to a well thought out schedule; there is a reason it hasn't been released yet. He says he has the whole story, and has given it to a couple of people as a "dead man switch".
He doesn't go into much more detail, but this is good news for us. It hasn't been swept under the rug.
He actually answers this very question in detail in his Periscope, but if you're committed to being cynical I'm gonna stop you. * Listen to his whole periscope, you'll get an answer to your question ( at least as much info that is available on this particular question )*
Wants to be famous? He was made famous, if not beforehand, just this past Sunday when he was featured on 60 minutes. Why are you so negative?
These are very favorable remarks of yours about a recent guest on Jones's show. Jones had Cernovich (who you like) on for a reason. The reason is, Jones wants arrests of pedophiles as much or more than you do. The previous sentence is true or false?
V____Z ago
For FUCKS SAKE. You are really stretching here. Find me a place where I ever claimed that anything Jones has looked at, touched, interviewed, was guilty by association. In fact, I have said he is a limited hangout. LIMITED meaning he does speak truth but in a limited way, like Wikileaks. The CIA isn't going to make it obvious, they have to make it look like he's their enemy. But dude, his own father and half his family is CIA. Come ON. He acts ridiculous, yells and then calls Alefantis innocent, making up a story about the govt probably dropping fake emails to frame him, without offering evidence. He says we shouldn't look at Comet, and that he'll take the reigns from here, as the pizzagate community has obviously been led astray. NO THE FUCK WE HAVEN'T. And we never "ran to Comet" to the exclusion of other leads from Podesta emails, as Jones states. Nor did he, as he also claims. He needs to step the fuck back, he's already admitted he's not going to be fully exposing pizzagate, so why would anyone follow what he says about it now?
rwb ago
You're a lost cause V___Z. The fact Jones has connections to some who have been in the CIA is called an asset. It's the ability to get information that would otherwise not be available. Would you like some dork who knows no one and therefore nothing doling out your deep state truth for the day? There are several former CIA agents working tirelessly for the last decade to get the truth out. They put their lives on the line for the rest of us, but fools like you don't put any faith in them because you buy into the line that once with the agency always with the agency. I have news. The agency created this myth to make agents who go rogue impotent. Their particular names escape me at the moment, but I might update once some come to me. At least two have been on Jones's Show and also John B Wells's show. You're a dupe of the system V____Z. They've got your number real good.
In so far as the CPP Alefantis retraction, I've explained it in detail elsewhere. Don't pretend you didn't read it.
Re: Those ex CIA saying death defying things - Kevin Shipp and Ray McGovern. Scott Bennett also comes to mind, although Scott was Army Special Ops Officer and Psych Warfare Analyst. May update again as other names come to mind. You can add William Binney to the list. Not CIA, but worked for nasty alphabet agency nonetheless, and thus is a solid demonstration that not all former alphabet agents are working for the agency from the outside.