The way I understand this (and there was another thread a few weeks ago) is that Dershowitz & Cernovich are working together to get the original case by Virginia Roberts against Epstein unsealed even though she was a minor. I believe it is to use against Virginia - or maybe one of the Jane Doe's that are currently suing Epstein - since she also said she was made to have sex with Dershowitz.
Here is a letter from Virginia's attorney laying out the relationship between Dershowitz & Cernovich...
An intervenor can join either side and in this context I'd have to assume Dershowitz joined the Defendant Maxwell and Cernovich the plaintiff (Virginia).
The doc nr and date don't match the doc Quantokitty and I were talking about. So this is another Motion to Quash, likely by another subpoenaed party.
I don't know whether Intervenors can be subpoenaed themselves in these cases, but whoever it is, as Intervenor in the case Cernovich and Counsel should know damn well that this has nothing to do with them being sued.
I think this is a good way to see which side everyone is on. Anyone against Virginia is against pizzagate. SHE IS THE VICTIM. SHE IS WHO WE ARE WORKING FOR.
I'm no lawyer but/and I've never been a fan of Cernovich. Wasn't sure I would post this or where so I'm tagging onto your comment.
How do we actually know that anything he says about anything is even true?
If it is true, why not have found a lawyer that was one of us who would have done it for free
If it is true, why not file pro se (you file on your own without a lawyer involved.)
I don't like anything, whether direct or indirect that smacks of "I need more money. "
Here's all i needed to read from him. ..
"Pedophiles are afraid, and legal costs are mounting."
"I have been funding this lawsuit with help from my Patreon backers. My attorney Marc Randazza billed me at a 50% discount due to the importance of this matter.
Jeffrey Epstein is a billionaire who should be in prison for life. He bought his way out of prison, and now he’s trying to spend his way out of this case by filing costly legal papers against me.
100% of contributions will go towards the legal defense fund.
Become a monthly donor on Patreon.
Make a contribution via BitCoin on CoinBase
Or fund the news via PayPal."
My take:
There are people on this v/ who are working one or more jobs who are really getting things done - digging deep in their free time and ask for nothing.
Put a computer camera in front of your face, sound serious and righteous and caring, repeat info you find here, on the Chans or from other youtubers, upload it to you tube, monetize it, declare yourself an "investigative journalist" over and over again, and come up with reasons. ... very possibly manufactured about why you need money. .. "It's going to the cause" and the cash flows in. Only takes about 30 minutes a day.
Cernovich is an attorney himself. Licensed in the State of California. And, as others have said...he is quite rich from a very lucrative alimony settlement. The dude is pure ego, vanity, narcissism, and self-promotion. And that's best case. Avoid at all costs.
That was my initial thought as well. He's trying to scoop up a bunch of donations. Since the whole thing is complicated legalese, most people aren't able to figure out what's going on. By the time they do, he'll already have everyone's money.
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quantokitty ago
Just saw this. It doesn't look like you're being sued. Not sure where you're getting that idea. Motion to Quash seems to be pertaining to the subpoena served to Ghislaine Maxwell. Here's the text online in pdf format. It appears to be the same case number: https://cases.justia.com/federal/district-courts/new-york/nysdce/1:2015cv07433/447706/503/0.pdf
Singleservename ago
So this pertains to Churcher not Cernovich? Now I'm confused.
Mrs_Ogynist01 ago
He is listed, along with Alan Dershowitz, as Intervenors (?) http://pizzagate.wiki/images/1/1c/Giuffre_v._Maxwell_SDNY_CM_ECF_Version_6.1.pdf
The way I understand this (and there was another thread a few weeks ago) is that Dershowitz & Cernovich are working together to get the original case by Virginia Roberts against Epstein unsealed even though she was a minor. I believe it is to use against Virginia - or maybe one of the Jane Doe's that are currently suing Epstein - since she also said she was made to have sex with Dershowitz.
Here is a letter from Virginia's attorney laying out the relationship between Dershowitz & Cernovich...
http://pizzagate.wiki/images/7/72/Response_in_Opposition_to_Motion_to_Intervene_-_by_Mike_Cernovich.pdf
Cernovich is a "bad hombre!"
Singleservename ago
An intervenor can join either side and in this context I'd have to assume Dershowitz joined the Defendant Maxwell and Cernovich the plaintiff (Virginia).
The doc nr and date don't match the doc Quantokitty and I were talking about. So this is another Motion to Quash, likely by another subpoenaed party.
I don't know whether Intervenors can be subpoenaed themselves in these cases, but whoever it is, as Intervenor in the case Cernovich and Counsel should know damn well that this has nothing to do with them being sued.
Mrs_Ogynist01 ago
Dershowitz & Cernovich are definitely on the same side - https://porkinspolicyreview.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/intervenor-alan-dershowitz-memorandum-of-law-in-support-of-michael-cervnovich-motion-to-unseal.pdf
And it's against the victim:
http://pizzagate.wiki/images/7/72/Response_in_Opposition_to_Motion_to_Intervene_-_by_Mike_Cernovich.pdf
Singleservename ago
Fucking hell you are right. That Cernovich is one of THEM and this is some cruel joke on Virginia's expense. But that begs the question
WHY THE FUCK IS THIS POST STILL UP/NOT FLARED DEBUNKED?????
@Millennial_Falcon @Vindicator
Mrs_Ogynist01 ago
THANK YOU!!!!
I think this is a good way to see which side everyone is on. Anyone against Virginia is against pizzagate. SHE IS THE VICTIM. SHE IS WHO WE ARE WORKING FOR.
zzvoat ago
I'm no lawyer but/and I've never been a fan of Cernovich. Wasn't sure I would post this or where so I'm tagging onto your comment.
If it is true, why not have found a lawyer that was one of us who would have done it for free
If it is true, why not file pro se (you file on your own without a lawyer involved.)
I don't like anything, whether direct or indirect that smacks of "I need more money. "
Here's all i needed to read from him. ..
"Pedophiles are afraid, and legal costs are mounting."
"I have been funding this lawsuit with help from my Patreon backers. My attorney Marc Randazza billed me at a 50% discount due to the importance of this matter.
Jeffrey Epstein is a billionaire who should be in prison for life. He bought his way out of prison, and now he’s trying to spend his way out of this case by filing costly legal papers against me.
100% of contributions will go towards the legal defense fund.
My take:
There are people on this v/ who are working one or more jobs who are really getting things done - digging deep in their free time and ask for nothing.
Put a computer camera in front of your face, sound serious and righteous and caring, repeat info you find here, on the Chans or from other youtubers, upload it to you tube, monetize it, declare yourself an "investigative journalist" over and over again, and come up with reasons. ... very possibly manufactured about why you need money. .. "It's going to the cause" and the cash flows in. Only takes about 30 minutes a day.
Frankly, I think it's a racket.
Proii_Pariah ago
Cernovich is an attorney himself. Licensed in the State of California. And, as others have said...he is quite rich from a very lucrative alimony settlement. The dude is pure ego, vanity, narcissism, and self-promotion. And that's best case. Avoid at all costs.
TomDrew87 ago
How dumb does someone have to be to believe this Cernovich clown
roundhouse1776 ago
That was my initial thought as well. He's trying to scoop up a bunch of donations. Since the whole thing is complicated legalese, most people aren't able to figure out what's going on. By the time they do, he'll already have everyone's money.
Yates ago
Cernovich is very rich, always has been. He has no need at all to beg for money. This is all very suspicious.
Mrs_Ogynist01 ago
He's asking for money? Fucking asshole! Did you read this? http://pizzagate.wiki/images/7/72/Response_in_Opposition_to_Motion_to_Intervene_-_by_Mike_Cernovich.pdf
Singleservename ago
Well that's a depressing thought: 133 upvoats and counting. No moderation. No flares.
If true this sub is both heavily compromised and flooded with fools.
Fuck