Hi folks, I'm sure you have seen @Pizzagatebot commenting by now. I started the thread here last week - https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1676126
Pizzagatebot is off probation and officially running on automated schedule on its own linode server.
It took a bit longer than I thought it would take since I didn't get a voat API and decided against using googles API, added some features to my host server like VPN, proxying and other tricks to try and avoid being tracked. The advantage is that all the code is my own so I know its safe and I can change any of it, vs taking someones off-the-shelf code from github, checking and learning their code and trying to modify/make it work for my needs.
Due to some peoples comments, I would like to reiterate that the bot is there to help link information together, not shame you for not posting those things in the first place. I edited my post with a new link and it ended up commenting in my post here - https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1684578
If you see it break or linking something ridiculous, just PM the bot with the permalink, I will check it from time to time.
If you folks have any other ideas for things that should be automated to help the community, let me know, can't hurt to mention it. For example, I have a few new test functions finally working that I will roll into the main code later this week such as:
- reverse image search to find posts with the same/similar image posted
- searching against deleted submissions to help some self moderate and alert other readers to this fact
- archive.is link resolve to search for original link
I chose against listing the date and upvoat/downvoat of the posts since I think it may discourage someone from finding something that may have otherwise continued to be overlooked and I don't really see it linking to anything that I would consider solid disinformation right now.
I can block it from searching for links to certain sites, I thought about it for undergroundnewsreport.com since it seems to be disinfo/COINTELPRO related. Any comments on that would be great.
Next up to bat is trying to figure out how to use different data analytics libraries for processing email/facebook/twitter data scrapes and see if there is anything interesting from automated correlation there. We need to use their own technology against them.
Thanks to everyone for keeping this community alive and I hope you all stay safe, aware, patient and vigilant. Cheers!
redditsuckz ago
Pizzabot spazed out...
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/modlog/comment
pipo44 ago
OP, PizzagateBot is very useful, thank you so much for the effort. I've noticed that PizzagateBot is only participating on threads to discuss and not on the share a link. Greetings.
throwaway89209834 ago
Great observation, I noticed this too about 30 minutes ago and realized earlier today I forgot to disable a debug option that does dry-run without sending any data. (wanna know how you can tell im a developer, i test in production......)
If you see it still missing something, let me know thanks!
pipo44 ago
Pizzagatebot still missing on share a link and TOP post.
throwaway89209834 ago
If you mean your new post, there is no previous link to that video AFAIK, because its a new video, right? There won't be a link unless someone posted the video before you.
In any case, I won't respond in the future if you don't give a link and say what you expect it to find.
pipo44 ago
I'll keep alert, keep up the good work.
LadyMinx ago
Huuuuge THUMBS UP to you! Thank you so much! Glad to have you on this stellar team! 👍👍👍 We all appreciate you BIG LEAGUE !!
OttoMaddox ago
I only regret that I have but one upvote to give for the Pizzagatebot.
justanotherpizza ago
awesome!
PizzaStreamerLive ago
Great bot! Sometimes it gets a little too aggressive. If a poster talks about a topic and briefly mentions twitter or something then it goes for the twitter comment and searches for that instead of the main topic. Maybe weigh the words more, then to the search for the top ones? Sadly i cant remember the post i saw this on, although it was a few days ago.
Edit: Also did you make pizzagatebot2 or is that a shill bot ? (Thought: someone might was to discredit your bot by making an account along the same name.)
throwaway89209834 ago
Thanks for the feedback. I noticed it and logged it as a bug before, it treats a twitter reference like @name as a voat user name and links to a profile automatically. I saw it find another post - https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1685232/8255586 - with the same @twitter link and it actually followed it so it stayed relevant and I thought that was pretty funny because it falls into the "its not a bug, its a feature" category. I thought I would see how it continued to treat it before doing something to stop it.
No It is mine. When I first created the original account, I ran out of submission points quickly so I created another bot to continue posting here when I first started. It is not used anymore.
Vindicator ago
It would be cool if there was a bot that identified the hashtags people are using to post about the topic of the post on Twitter and Facebook, and made a comment about sharing it under the popular tags on the list.
Pizzabot is totally cool, BTW.
throwaway89209834 ago
Could you explain the process you are thinking in a few more steps?
Vindicator ago
The current bot searches for urls. Perhaps a similar one could search for key words or urls of links shared in both a tweet and the post, then pull any hashtags from the tweets into a list in a comment on the post. It could say "People are talking about this topic under #pizzagate #Pedogate #draintheswamp #bringdownthering #littlelivesmatter #savethekids #stopthecoup #deepstate #ItsTime #Vault7 #Podesta #HillaryforPrison #LockHerUp" etc. Instead of hyperlinking to the urls of individual tweets like the current bot does with Voat posts and news references, it could link to the hashtags.
throwaway89209834 ago
When I get into scraping twitter, I'll try something like that. Thanks for the inputs.
Piscina ago
thank you. It's a great idea.
BerksResident ago
Thank you - really useful contribution.
SoldierofLight ago
Thank you for all your continued hard work!
THE_LIES_OH_THE_LIES ago
You are worth thousands of us. Keep it up.
9217 ago
I love this bot. It's great, fantastic, helps link research together. Thank you for your hard work!
Proii_Pariah ago
SO Shadilay!
And the Pepe Girls sing!
Dressage2 ago
This is very much appreciated.
RecycledUser ago
I would be interested in searches on Seth Rich, Justice Scalia, and Monica Petersen. Thanks.
Mellowmountain ago
Great work
equineluvr ago
Thank you so much for the wonderful bot! We appreciate it!!!
DopeandDiamonds ago
I love pizzabot! It is very difficult to search here on mobile and I love that it brings up past posts. I have made a few connections I have posted using my alt that I never would have put together had the bot not linked to a past post I missed.
Great work and thank you for your time and effort!
mooteensy ago
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! best idea ever
zzvoat ago
YOU. ARE. THE. BEST.
ALL the kids thank you. It aids the investigation greatly!
Hopevoats ago
I love this! Thanks for your hard work!
crystalclear ago
Is very helpful and does just what you intended it to do!!! Thank you very much!
SaneGoatiSwear ago
fucking cool. 2 things: any chance moving away from google (maybe towards searx.me - which can proxie through to google anyway), and 2. thoughts on other types of helpful bots you're thinking of? (ahem, shills... so many shills)
throwaway89209834 ago
Yes, I know about google and their controversies, but google still peforms the best, seems to crawl new pages the fastest and it's just easy to work with. I actually tested with Yandex since you can force it to do exact match always, but Yandex didn't return some same results in compared searches.
I like that searx.me is open source, I'll put it on the list to test later.
I should of put in the first line of the post 'i will assume you are all thankful, only comment with ideas or thoughts on this' because I am looking for ideas and wanted more of a brainstorming session.
Searching against deleted posts and commenting with some suggestion to delete will help with some of that I think. Or maybe checking if its a discuss post but has no links and reminding they need to have references.
Not sure what you are thinking, but it can't be anything to publicly label or suggest a shill because someone could be falsely labeled. It has to stick to a scope of suggestions that can't be taken as accusations.
Vindicator ago
This would be really awesome. Seems like 80% of what we have to remove is just because people haven't bothered to read the submission guidelines (which don't even show on mobile...grrr).
Another cool thing would be to search against previous posts -- both removed and not removed -- for Flairs, and point out the previous posts were flaired as Debunked or Disinfo or whatever. Perhaps they would think twice and self-moderate.
SaneGoatiSwear ago
ah, then, specifically: disinformation tactics: https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm and fallacies: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies
i appreciate your full response above, either way, and that you'll test searx; i understand google's ease. good thing it's not called adam's apple! fuck organized religion.
anyway, yeah, you rock. bot rocks. keep kickin ass behind 77 proxies because every time some good coder pops up here, they are soon replaced with some angry anti-speech version. it's scary. sli.mg devs are still missing 7+ months from the internet, jmtullock was replaced with angry version. the same day the slimg devs disappeard so did atko and puttitout, and they came back 1 and 2 months later angry distant aloof versions of themselves as well. watch your ass is what i'm saying.
throwaway89209834 ago
Woof, if someone comes up with a way to detect those type of fallacies in a blob of text, they will make millions. I have no idea what is cutting edge in this area right now, but I haven't heard of anything like that anywhere yet. I'm not a data scientist, just have some coding experience and trying out different things, like extracting proper nouns, unique phrases, keywords and seeing how relevant it is and how it could be applied or analyzed with other data.
Thanks for the warning too.
SaneGoatiSwear ago
"neural nets"
throwaway89209834 ago
Yeah that came up in research into data analytics, but have you heard of anyone actually successfully doing that? There has to be hundreds if not thousands of applications. If someone got it to be reliable you'd think you'd see it at least being patented if not already being licensed.
samhara ago
Machine never passed Turing Test yet.. It's hype.
throwaway89209834 ago
I agree. Keep in mind a lot of high tech stuff in the private sector came from and still comes from public sector. During/before WW2, the saying was that the gov was 50 years ahead of current consumer technology and now, with the rise of corporations, the crazy high tech stuff is in the corporate R&D labs. Which is of course favorable due to corporate personhood and less oversight and we know the CIA is well vested into various tech companies..
bibigirl_ ago
Yesss
MolochHunter ago
ur one smartarsed mutherfukkr. upvoated.
VieBleu ago
Hi this is a great service!
ANYTHING by Sorcha Faal is disinfo and needs avoidance as if a plague of locusts - http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/
Also, wondering why the bot has not come up with anything for example on this submission - https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1687333
BTW if anyone gets butthurt over your bot they may very possibly be shill/troll.
throwaway89209834 ago
Agreed, its blacklisted now.
My only guess is you edited it and added the pug link because I just deleted your post from the list of scanned posts, let it run again and it has commented.
Indeed.
cakeoflightylight ago
That is amazing!!
Now... Can you write something to search through Wikileaks faster and find important emails?
throwaway89209834 ago
That is what I mean by this part:
There are open source libraries and tools to do different types of data analytics for correlating data that I have been throwing data at, but it is a whole different beast and needs well crafted keyword and key phrase lists for starters and even then it cannot be a replacement for manual searching because due to the nature of the topic a lot can be overlooked. There are companies who spent/spend big $$$ on R&D for data analytics and I'm just a newbie.
If someone wants to compile a 1 word to 3 word phrase list, and person/organization of interest list, in relation to pizzagate I can include that in testing stuff.
cakeoflightylight ago
gmail.com (looking for the 19 State Department employees who used Gmail to avoid FOIA)
CARD (Child Abuse Rapid Deployment) - this was a clue from FBI anon
any email to or from HRC referencing children
Those would be my top 3
Ihatepizza2 ago
Top job my friend. Seriously helpful tool. Suggestion: today I wanted to find an old comment of mine. As far as I am aware there is no way to do so, but open to correction. This ability would obviously be useful with so much information involved.
fartyshorts ago
If you Google "site:voat.co/v/pizzagate Ihatepizza2" you'll find all of them and you can just add a word or two after your username if you know what the post is about. You can also browse your old comments here: https://voat.co/user/Ihatepizza2/comments
Ihatepizza2 ago
Thank you!!
cantsleepawink ago
Fantastic. Thank you.
SwampdrainerNo1 ago
Awesome work brother Throwaway! Kek likes your Skillz.
0xFFF ago
seems to give good results so far, good work!
SturdyGal ago
Beyond awesome throwaway89209834! Thanks!
gurneyx ago
I love the pizzabot! keep up the great work!
murphy212 ago
Yes, the bot has already helped me find something I had missed. Thank you very much!