So I found these articles on this sick website http://www.asstr.org/ where freaks go to share stories http://www.asstr.org/. The sickest stuff can be found on http://www.asstr.org/files/Collections/Nepi_Stories/ if you're curious as to how sadists minds ACTUALLY work, I can stomach most things but most of those stories are horrifying. Anyways I stumbled upon this interesting one by "Corey Haim" about the first encounter raping a virgin child and grooming them over the course of a few days. It involves first getting the child to orgasm and show them a "good" feeling, then brutally molesting them afterwards. Now since the child has never experienced such anguish, after the molestation they torture the child for as long as they deem necessary. This consists of whatever the freaks can conjure up, perhaps stuffing the children in COFFINS hooked up to electricity, it doesn't really matter how they torture them but people need to realize how severe the torture is, it's the one thing that needs to be stopped most in our world. So basically you torture the child enough to show them that the molestation wasn't actually bad compared to the torture, it's a "good" thing. They're taught that if they don't let older men fuck them in the but, they'll be tortured mercilessly.
Anyways I think this post is relevant because nothing like this shows how depraved the traffickers are, the devil is in the details and pizzagate's impossible to understand without understanding how the enemy's mind works. I encourage you all to read through a "nepi fiction" story or two and you'll realize how urgent this situation is.
Anyways here's a paste of the article http://pastebin.com/QXcrkpTn
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stellarcorpse ago
it is very likely, in my opinion, Caris James was groomed since infancy by James Alefantis with the blessings of her parents. He has possession of her,
fyi, Hollywood is chock full of pedophilia. I know I am an actress there.
VieBleu ago
My theory is that she was birthed to be his personal tissue, blood, pineal gland and stem cell "fountain of youth".
stellarcorpse ago
Not sure about that. Perhaps down the line. Sexual gratification. I can only pray she has not yet reached ' the age of attraction' (pedos sometimes have different attraction ages) and he will relinquish her before this. But I doubt it.
fyi: your theory would make sense if he is involved in Satanic Ritual Abuse. Children are often used as energy vortexes to derive immense power for a true occultist via sexual abuse and other methods. (Sex Magick). Also as conduits for invocations of demonic entities.
VieBleu ago
There are many many threads on voat regarding the medical use of children for those who can afford to have a specially birthed human, or steal them - elites. You may not have looked at that stuff. And you may still not agree, but here are links -
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1649708
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1538274
stellarcorpse ago
I am well aware of these. And of course anything is possible, esp when it comes to elites. I just think this particular case is run of the mill pedophilia. I just don't think he would take a 'beloved' child from birth and use her for these reasons such as organ harvesting or vampiric youth promoting . Would more likely be a complete stranger child that he has zero emotional investment in. But for grooming purposes such emotional investment is highly beneficial.
VieBleu ago
I have other theories on it - he thinks of her as someone whose tissues will ultimately provide him with life and become a part of him. She is valuable because she is under his control, healthy, and purposely engineered to work with his blood type and genetics - he may have even been the sperm donar. I think he's a top homo who likes ephebes but ultimately like to dominate men, a la I know luv video where Majestic Ape trolls for pedos, then rapes one with a vacuum after partying. That doesn't mean he wouldn't play ping pong ugh can't believe I had to write that. But she is being kept in good shape or his other purposes - narcissist NEEDS to stay young looking, feeling and acting.
But ultimately, we are like people blindfolded trying to make our way through dark woods - we are never going to think like these people! it could be either of our theories or both. I wonder if we'll ever really know.
stellarcorpse ago
Perhaps you base that assumption on thinking he could not fancy females sexually. I think that assumption is wrong. I've discussed this here before and don't feel like going through it again in detail.
VieBleu ago
no, I didn't.
you can always link to old discussions. just in case you haven't utilized this - you can use the "save" button to keep important comments and sub in your account page, you can access quickly to throw up a link and save discussing.
You seem really committed to your point of view. I feel like it is fruitless ultimately for any of us to think we "know" exactly what or how JA actually thinks. He could be a puppet himself, split and handled at least to some degree.
stellarcorpse ago
Not committed. Anything is possible but I base much of what I say on my own personal life's experience; experience around LBGT. BDSM, Occult and other underground communities. You get a unique perspective to how many people think and operate. But I may also be projecting. As I personally knew someone very much like him. And I was only 16 and learned a lot about life the hard way. This BF (not really , more like lover/abuser, i was a sex toy) was an outwardly 'gay' man that was actually a pan sexual, bisexual narcissist that corrupted every soul in his path. He ended up a Mambla member and now dating those much younger than I was at the time. He was sadistic and cruel but very charming and magnetic. He also loved to rub every awful thing he did in peoples faces with teasers and sexual innuendos. He was also a member of a Secret Society.
You and I are on the same page that regardless of what he is using Caris for, we seem to agree he does in fact have her. To me this is almost blatantly obvious.
"and so it began...." https://www.flickr.com/photos/146343979@N02/32362058436/
Do not think JA is small fish or puppet at all. I believe in fact he could very well be a CIA operative or other alphabet agency person. This is why he acts so cocky and smug.
VieBleu ago
great discussion. I have had some exposure to Cherokee nightspots and the like.
When I say he may be a puppet I don't mean he isn't high up. I have said long ago he is CIA asset if not operative. Doesn't mean he can't be controlled, abused himself since boyhood, maybe like Anderson Cooper. He seems to handle Amanda Kleinman in my opinion. I'm just saying I guess that I wouldn't be surprised with his grandparents background in that Greek Freemasonry society that he may not have been programmed in certain ways to be placed in higher positions. I think he is the "artist" producer behind all the Heavy Breathing stuff, the pizza joint was just a headquarters although I'm sure pizza parties have taken place there, and that computer hard drive at CPP has a lot of ghosts and strange occurances. He's definitely one of the highest PUBLIC fish, and scrambled a bit in the brain, narcissistic and sloppy about his "culture".
stellarcorpse ago
Ya, I see your point about his parents etc. His father is said to be involved with CIA was he not?. Could never get that story straight. Yes. Perhaps he is also being protected by Secret Societies. The Greek Freemasonry link is very interesting but is there actually proof he was also initiated and not just his mother? Also his donating to that Waldorf Theological school is a bit bizarre. Is Amanda Kleinman the woman behind Heavy Breathing> What the fuck do you think is up with that? Someone wrote me here that that was a CIA pet. Whatever that means. What do you mean he is the producer behind Heavy breathing, I mean for what purpose?
VieBleu ago
Here is my stuff on Alefantis, CIA, Heavy Breathing, my first interest here:
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1453400
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1472527
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1470903
stellarcorpse ago
Your discussions and theories on Majestic Ape is fascinating. I cannot however bring myself to watch any other their videos/.Something very repugnant about them and not in the obvious way always stops me from doing so. I have only watched them partially.
So yes, your theory of MK Ultra is very reasonable. As for JA playing the Majestic Ape part part time. I can see this too. In fact, it is very likely. You know he has also taken to producing a couple of short films that are occultic as well. And a full length one coming up soon that is also seems very MK Ultra related.
stellarcorpse ago
Thanks. I will check them out.
VieBleu ago
Come here and leave a comment and we can discuss, then erase later. better than PM
Pizzagate After hours klub https://voat.co/v/pizzagatewhatever/1666421