karenrussell63 ago

interesting article, but seems to be unrelated. outage talked about in article took place Jan 12-15th and also the CPP camera wasn't down.

kekistocrat ago

Just posted this elaborating on another potential false flag/'shooter'/hoax/etc. -- https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1600151

Carolleej2 ago

Keep up the great work! #Save the kids!

karenrussell63 ago

just to note:

1485347555-1.25.17-7.32.35-AM.EST - when the camera changes
1485348690-1.25.17-7.51.30-AM.EST - (19 minutes later) 1st fbi looking car arrives
1485349210-1.25.17-8.00.10-AM.EST 2nd fbi car arrives
1485351682-1.25.17-8.41.22-AM.EST 2nd fbi car leaves
1485352038-1.25.17-8.47.18-AM.EST 1st fbi car leaves

and there are at least 3-4 other cars who park in that spot throughout the day, with at least 1 truck parked there while the owner walks somewhere

karenrussell63 ago

For anyone who wants to download the full captures. I only have partial data for the 22nd due to script errors.. and unfortunately I had broken things on the 26th and didn't realize it until just earlier and so because of that I only have images saved from 1.26.17-1.01.04-AM.EST to 1.26.17-6.59.57-AM.EST :(

I would have loved to have the frames showing them switching it back to default, but thank you @LadyGoldenVein for logging the time it was switched back at 8:54 AM (EST?)

Also or the 26th and after, the folder structure changes to show 3 different cams:

200118 - Connecticut Ave NW & Oliver St NW ~6 miles north of cpp 200119 - CPP 200122 - Connecticut Ave & Van Ness ~4 miles south of cpp

Here is the link: https://www.mediafire.com/folder/are97g6djcxde/CPP_Street_Cam

VieBleu ago

Well I don't agree with doing anything illegal or harrassing. So that would have to be figured out prior to taking any physical action whatsoever. You sound like someone who wants to discredit this investigation. Bye bye.

Geo_synchronous ago

The Globalist elite Satanist are getting sloppy. They'll be finished within this years end.

slickleg64 ago

False flag incoming. Watch this space.

VieBleu ago

the first one really fizzled didn't it. The public was like, "yawn".

Hopevoats ago

Holy shit! The FBI SUVs are f'ing ominous!

quantokitty ago

Yeah, we need coverage of that area. Anybody live near there? Also tweet this like crazy! If we talk about them doing this the last time, maybe it'll avert another false flag.

cakeoflightylight ago

Whoever is going to start filming should also film the other nearby storefronts. CPP is one but don't forget Besta Pizza and Buck's and the other stores nearby as well.

tic_toc_tic_toc ago

It should ring some pretty hardcore alarmbells in everyones head with those two SUVs. Not sure what to make of it, but I think suggestions of getting cameras in there is important and must be done immediately. It might be someone on the inside sending us a message to do excactly that.

Blacksmith21 ago

Seeing black gov SUVs in DC is like seeing Hispanics in Mexico City. Not an uncommon sight in the slightest.

BarryOSeven ago

They want us to think they are investigating but they are not.

Just like the white house petition which is on like 80 votes.

It's more fraud then before. Before they would say: fuck you. Now they are faking shit like this camera with cars and the vote which has a formula like:

realVoteCount / 1000 = (int) fakeVoteCount

cakeoflightylight ago

Exactly.

hojuruku ago

You can use various opensource software tools to monitor the traffic cam stream. I would use zoneminder.com but there are many others like motion.

2impendingdoom ago

okay thats reallly funny and so sad at the same time.

Thispizzasalive ago

I'll be in D.C. this weekend. There was way too much going on with inauguration to even be around the city. That being said. I'll be in NW from 6am to about 3pm. And plan on taking recon photos I promised earlier. If you have anything in particular...you should PM me the details of what you need. I AM DELETING THIS ACCOUNT THIS WEEKEND- D.c.An0n

AmenRA ago

pics inside CPP ,but I wouldn't eat there & watch your back

gonegoogling1 ago

Closer up pics of the area in front of the gas station where the suburbans were meeting would be interesting.

reasonedandinformed ago

That is a very suspicious frame that you froze (two black SUVs clearly meeting across the street from CPP): http://imgur.com/a/fpICv

karenrussell63 ago

exactly and less than an hour after the change

karenrussell63 ago

I didnt look into that and while it's certainly possible, its just not something i'd be willing to spend much time one.. but here is the feed about 4 miles north of CPP: http://www.trafficland.com/video_feeds/url/200118/ and about 4 miles south: http://www.trafficland.com/video_feeds/url/200122/

reasonedandinformed ago

To make it easy, here is the link to the actual live-feed camera across the street from Comet Ping Pong (now pointing at the gas station): http://ie.trafficland.com/200119/full?system=trafficland-www&pubtoken=4f066cd1df66e281b8d314b19d2af4fa0e222c58fe720dab893827a6adf87f33&refreshRate=2000

The camera provides video, but when I look, it looks to only take a snapshot and freeze and does not refresh. Is there a way to get a live feed without manually refreshing the screen??

karenrussell63 ago

keep in mind the token in that will expire before long

Forgetmenot ago

Wow it's amazing what you investigators know how to do. Upvoats!

DustyRadio ago

I wonder how many times this was repositioned before people began paying attention.

They may also do this before they do "parties" or bring kids in so there isn't photographic records of their movements.

islandofdelight ago

It seems very coincidental that Edgar Maddison Welch was also involved in Haiti relief in 2010. http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/nation-world/national/article120534508.html

What are the chances that he got involved with Dyncor, who George Webb says are behind all false-flag shootings in the U.S.?

B3nder ago

Could be Jimmy C told cops there is a public camera for everyone to see when he leaves or arrives and they just set it to look away...

Nana66 ago

If they were hiding something like loading or unloading...goods, I wonder why worry about the front of the building when there is a back of the building....that is the best place for a trail cam.

Don-Keyhote ago

If only that jagoff shia lebouf had put his camera there haha. hey wasn't he abused too

MolochHunter ago

who the fuck monitors these things everyday? Youre a fuckn dead set legend

Kawksnahch ago

anyone friendly with any homeless people? kindness goes a long way for eyes no one considers.

cakeoflightylight ago

Sad but true.

1754llp0l171c4l ago

We need people on the ground ready to record, remember to mention why you wen't there.

doubletake ago

awesome. thank you (and all other investigators here) for your service.

BerksResident ago

Just put on twitter for awareness.- thanks

Peanuttles ago

That's interesting! I came across this website that had a lot of information about what's underground in Washington DC. Don't know if anyone has checked it out before...http://untappedcities.com/2014/07/25/the-underground-city-beneath-the-u-s-capitol-and-library-of-congress/

Vindicator ago

The Google Street View of the intersection shows two cameras mounted on the streetlight, one pointing down the street, and one pointing toward the gas station. Did the one pointed at the gas station ever point AT Comet? Can someone post a link if so?

Otherwise I fear this may be a mistake or possible attempt at disinformation. Stay frosty people.

Fateswebb ago

Wait, then... so what I am seeing is a 360 degree rotateable camera, which would be controlled electronically not by philysically turning it... how are you able to tell which way it's facing all I see is the glass bubble encasing it, I cant see which way it's facing..

But that being said if I'm looking at the right camera, then there may be a way to send commands to it and rotate it, use their own tricks against them..

karenrussell63 ago

I believe there is a red light camera which doesnt store recordings, and the one I posted is the only one I'm aware of. But I can assure you that this is legit which is why I posted before and after for both night time and day, just to help prove that it isn't photoshopped or anything like that.

cakeoflightylight ago

I have to point out that I fought off a red light camera ticket one time and I told the Administrative Judge that there's no possible way they aren't saving the recordings. They're constantly monitoring people. They record constantly, until they see something and then they save what they see. So they save what they want. Which I would venture to guess is everything. I could be wrong, but that judge dismissed my ticket on constitutional grounds and our city voted them out of town.

VieBleu ago

major props for winning that argument in court.

cakeoflightylight ago

Thanks!

Vindicator ago

Interesting. What was your constitutional argument?

cakeoflightylight ago

That the red light cameras are a violation of the Fourth Amendment since the government has no right to spy on citizens on the street 24-7 and constantly record and then go back and decide if they want to keep the footage to "only" be looking for violations. That the police have to observe this in person because otherwise it's just 24-7 surveillance of everyone. That if they happen to see a guy shoot someone on the camera, you can bet they will save that footage but that doesn't make it legal. I'm sure this argument is probably negated by the Patriot Act but the Patriot Act would still be unconstitutional. I also said if they can spy on me on the street with cameras, what is to stop them from spying on me while I'm in my bedroom and then saving the footage IF I committed a crime. It was like 4 years ago so I'm not exactly sure what else I said. But just basic fourth amendment stuff.

cakeoflightylight ago

IDK if I'm right, but I guess the administrative hearing judge agreed with me or just felt like dismissing it for some other unknown reason. Obviously I want them watching CPP but I feel that they have probable cause to do so. There is no reasonable suspicion that I'm going to be committing a crime by driving down the street, otherwise the cops would just run their dashcams 24-7 and sit outside of bars waiting for drunk people to leave but at least where I live, that's illegal. They have to wait until they see a violation before they start surveilling you with the dashcam I think.

Vindicator ago

Did you look at the link I posted? If you zoom in, you can see two identical cameras. If you rotate the street view, you can see that those two cameras would offer the two views you have posted as before and after.

karenrussell63 ago

There may be 2 cameras there, but even so there's only 1 publicly accessible one, so it might be possible that they switched of f one while switching on the other on, but my doubt there is that the site I used (which ill add to the top) assigns each camera a web_id and that hasn't changed for me.

Vindicator ago

Thanks for clarifying! :)

ZalesMcMuffin ago

Where is CPP within the view of the camera (when it's facing the correct direction, obviously)?

TRUTHWARRIOR ago

The security cam over the lobby at sandy hook school was removed just before the drill this is documented. Mother fuckers!!!

TRUTHWARRIOR ago

Holy fuck shit

tapsnapornap ago

I've hit my 100 point limit today, but i'd still like to thank you for bringing this up.

Devious1 ago

Where would the 'elites' go now adays to discuss there next plan of action?

BadGuacamoleTV ago

Covered it, Mentioned you as source.. tweeting, gabbing, youtubing, and vidmeing. https://vid.me/yNQu

VieBleu ago

nice.

Fateswebb ago

I wonder how they move it if it's a physical act or a electronic controller. If it's a physical act then can we just have someone move it back? Or if it's electronic maybe we can figure out how to move it online.

karenrussell63 ago

If it needs to be moved physically, i've spotted a van pulling into the gas station 87 seconds after the angle changes. that would be enough time get back to his vehicle and pull around to the station.

http://imgur.com/a/Mw0U3

cakeoflightylight ago

Cars are constantly pulling into gas stations throughout the day and night. The cops may have been trying to catch someone in that van. Or they are following whoever is in the black SUVs. Or it's just a coincidence. Or they wanted to get away from the street view of whoever is going in and out of CPP.

Fateswebb ago

Oh so it very well could have been that van, but what does it say on it I wish we could see, and I guess you would need a ladder?

karenrussell63 ago

its hard to say for sure, but it does look like the top right is raised slightly, could be a ladder?

Fateswebb ago

It does appear to have a ladder on top...

Fateswebb ago

Wait now I'm confused because the mod posted the street view and the camera I see is one of those electronically rotateable ones, not one that you physically rotate. Am I just looking at the wrong thing or something... do you guys not see that it's the typical security camera bubble that you see on the ceilings of stores etc?

karenrussell63 ago

its possible it may be electronically controlled and that the van is unrelated.

banusaur ago

Just noticed 400+ users jumped on this sub within the last 20 minutes. Could be genuine interest b/c of this thread - or something else.

Edit: The user count got in the 1200s then suddenly dropped to 450. It's steadily climbing again and is now at 634. (9:56 PST)

VieBleu ago

Ah the traffic cam. Reminds me of the good old days here...upvoated.

ArthurEdens ago

These guys really want to get caught. They're just Streisanding themselves again

Votescam ago

How does a traffic camera pointed at an Exxon station and the sidewalk benefit info about traffic? Wondering if the original position which included CPP was near a stop light? Why would it have been pointed directly at that business?
Was there some interest in what was going on there? I believe there was concern about it per Frank Winstead.

cakeoflightylight ago

Yeah, good point.. maybe they are doing exchanges of dirty things in those black SUVs at the gas station. Or waiting for a particular spy to show up.

FriesischShipping ago

Match in the gas tank, BOOM BOOM!

Liberty_NYC ago

FOIA

ConcernedParent2 ago

Yes exactly, please if someone lives near here, go get a camera NOW and record this place. I'm really worried.

kekistocrat ago

Has anyone in D.C. or elsewhere seen any advertisements for Crisis Actors? Craigslist? Local Papers? Checking...

 

Edit: Craigslist, D.C. -- only found this. Event to take place 2/4/17 so not too promising but who knows. Edit: I found this Crisis Management Firm in D.C. -- I don't see Omar Mateen anywhere, though... The president of the company is Judy Smith - very interesting and seems like Alefutile would fit as one of her clients (having helped Michael Vick, Monica Lewinsky, and helped spin the L.A. riots -- she's a real winner, this one) Edit: Judy Smith - 'The Fixer' - America's #1 Crisis and Reputation Management Expert.

kekistocrat ago

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1600151 -- more on potential 'shooter' deal...

VieBleu ago

this crises actors in DC stuff might deserve it's own post - link it to pizzagate through the false flag event.
Pre-empt their next event by unraveling it before hand.

kekistocrat ago

Upvoat. To call it before it happens and watch it go down -- would be priceless and the satisfaction would be intoxicating. I've pondered before, to befriend a crisis actor and have intel on the hoax as it happens... Does anybody viewing these comments know any Crisis Actors? Treat 'em well. 'Keep your enemies closer than your friends.' That and Praise be to Kek!

VieBleu ago

amen brotha

G_Gordon_Linguini ago

Judy Smith is the inspiration for the character Olivia Pope in the show Scandal where the fixer always operates just inside the grey area of the law to make things right for her high-paying, powerful clients...

Shonda Rhimes, creator of ABC’s hit television dramas Grey’s Anatomy and Private Practice, developed a television drama about the world of crisis management inspired by Ms. Smith. The series entitled, Scandal, revolves around the life and work of a professional fixer. Ms. Smith serves as Co- Executive Producer of the project and provides insight and technical expertise on crisis management issues.

Vindicator ago

Hmm...I wonder if this Judy Smith is any relation to John Smith, owner of pizzagate.com, who is lifting material wholesale from investigators here to populate his webpage, and trying to auction the domain for $12,500? https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1592743

@RebelSkum? @Millennial_Falcon? Did you see this?

Millennial_Falcon ago

I doubt John Smith is "his" real name (apparently this isn't even just one person).

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1592743/7774939

kekistocrat ago

...certainly would ease the strains of credulity.

Fateswebb ago

John smith sounds like a made up name to me.. it's probably the most common name in the US, so it is almost like using John Doe it could very well be made up..

srayzie ago

You think Monica Lewinsky was a crisis actor?

VieBleu ago

you think Monica Lewinsky was a crises actor?>

no - she would be a client. In interviews she talks about how she was bullied. She needed PR help. Now she gives appearances talking about online bullying - no doubt uses a PR person for that.

srayzie ago

Oh ok. I didn't know what firm like that did. Thank you

VieBleu ago

and they do a lot more than that. They would be the "spin masters" for example that could do everything from say, putting Alefantis on with Megan Kelly - booking that interview - to planting the meme of fake/news pizzagate with specific reporters and bloggers, all the way to possibly hiring crises actors for "events". Just depends on who their clients would be - CIA could be a client, (a specific operator in the CIA.)
PR is perception management, and all that that might entail. Fine line between that and propaganda.

kekistocrat ago

The term 'Perception Management' should stop anyone in their tracks. Tavistock, SRI, Esalen... I can't stand the fact that there are other people out there that have nothing better to do than attempt to control someone's perceptions... getting paid for it to boot.

srayzie ago

That's interesting. It's just crazy how low people can go

VieBleu ago

It's just crazy how low people can go #pizzagate> meme

AreWeSure ago

Crisis actors are not a thing

ThePuppetShow ago

AreWeSure ago

Still not a thing.

ThePuppetShow ago

Because you say so? I already proved to you it IS a thing.

kekistocrat ago

That's the one that Omar Mateen (actor/patsy/etc) worked at through G4S. They were so sloppy on that hoax that I figured this would be easy...

dickface8 ago

You're a TERRIBLE misinfo mod and have no business here. @Millennial_Falcon can we get rid of this clown already?

2impendingdoom ago

AreYouSure is not a mod, and generally pokes out from his hideyhole only when a Truth is posted. So, arewesure has actually become a good barometer for this investigation. DIG IN.

ZalesMcMuffin ago

If that's the case (and I haven't tracked it to see), perhaps AreWeSure is FBIAnon in troll drag using the reverse-psychology-fu on us.

2impendingdoom ago

Could FBI anon really have time for that? I hope not. more likely its brock or a podesta. But at least Imwithher and chelsea2020 have finally hung it up.

ZalesMcMuffin ago

AreWeSure is not a mod.

dickface8 ago

K I might be getting confused there.

cakeoflightylight ago

Dinosaurs weren't a thing. Also, teleprompters aren't real.

ZalesMcMuffin ago

Come on, you can do better than that.

FriesischShipping ago

Lol! Right? I thought this guy was a devils advocate, now I know that this probably Sean Cummings.

dickface8 ago

Lets keep in mind this mod was pretty much the only person who thought this post was "ridiculous" https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1538274 and was adamant about hindering any further looking into it, which is enough for me to believe we were on the right track with that one. *edit- I may be thinking of the mod "wecanhelp" who is a useless piece of garbage also.

ZalesMcMuffin ago

Yeah, you must be. AreWeSure is not a mod.

cakeoflightylight ago

Arewesure is definitely a troll at the very least. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjuHgYCxoKY

ZalesMcMuffin ago

Yes, but in trolling, they present a lot of important counterpoint info sometimes. Other times, just trolling.

kekistocrat ago

Not a clue. Haven't looked into it. It's doubtful, from what I remember but I wouldn't put it past them. I just noticed her name on "The Fixer's' bio page as being a client. Judy is as dirty as they come for spin -- having worked under the Bush administration (9/11) as Deputy Press Secretary (says it all). She also advised Sony Pictures Entertainment after their 2014 cyber attack -- and if I remember correctly there was a movie (coincidentally timed and the plot centered around North Korea, big budget Hollywood film, comedy), the hack was spun as coming from North Korea, and hackers later exposed it as coming from Maryland, I believe ( a little too close to the Alphabet Gangs). She's dirty.

srayzie ago

Wow. Seems like Washington is just full of corrupt people!

ZalesMcMuffin ago

No WAY!! Damn!!!

Well, at least we've still got our pro wrestling to believe in.

Z11Mama ago

Excellent observation. My first thought was they will change it a few times. Then, when questioned as to why it was changed before the 'shooter' they can say it changes on a regular basis.

redditsuckz ago

I wonder if the camera has been switched many times before its just that no one notices till now...like every time they did shady shit in the past they probably turned the cameras away from the road.

Devious1 ago

Well spotted

nomorepepperoni ago

Either they're plotting another false flag (God I hope not) or they decided to leave it that way now as CYA when future questions arise about it being moved ("We just moved it to better assess an area. Just normal procedure, move along"). If asked why it moved back, they were "testing" the move's effects first.

OrwellKnew ago

Good possibility

SpikyAube ago

Someone should go and set up another camera to cover that area and then link to the live feed so people can check on it from all over the world 24/7. I know in London there are random people's web cams set up all over the place and there's a website on which you can search for a particular street and see if someone has a camera nearby and watch it live online.

VieBleu ago

i like it.

madmanpg ago

We need multiple cameras watching the area, and multiple cameras covering the first line. Blanket the area with a digital record.

doubletake ago

maybe a lurking hacker can tap into cams already operating elsewhere up and down the street?

wokethefkup ago

this, it can be done too. so if you're reading this you know what to do.

iamthepizzanow ago

And what happens when they can view it, find it and remove it?

Norm85 ago

Have a second camera set up covering the first.

P8prclip ago

And a third watching the second

VieBleu ago

but Who's On First?

SpikyAube ago

Put a tracker in it, or a booby trap, so if it's disturbed it covers them in something unpleasant, or sprays indelible paint onto their face through a stencil that reads 'I am a Pedo arrest me'

VieBleu ago

how about a trap door?

Forgetmenot ago

Lmao! Genius

phlux ago

that was funnier than expected

Konran ago

Yeah. It was.

madmanpg ago

inedible paint

As opposed to edible paint?

VieBleu ago

mmmm paint...

SpikyAube ago

Haha inDELIBLE. Autocorrect misinterpreted me yet again!

phlux ago

ArthurEdens ago

You have three more they don't about

Edit: *know

VieBleu ago

Just. Know.

ArthurEdens ago

What?

VieBleu ago

(it was continuing a joke going on in above tcomments about a missing "know".)

ArthurEdens ago

Oh gotcha

iamthepizzanow ago

Not if they are live streaming. Also consider that they may have a cameras around as well.

ZalesMcMuffin ago

I don't about either.

ArthurEdens ago

Haha

ConcernedParent2 ago

Wouldn't that make them look guilty?

At any rate, someone could hide a non-live streaming camera and just upload the raw footage after a few days.

dickface8 ago

They are already guilty x1000 so 1001 doesn't make a lot of difference anymore.

eyeVoated ago

Time to deploy operation urban camouflage deer cam

iamthepizzanow ago

Of course it would make them look guilty, they already do look guilty enough.

unbiased_researcher ago

Yes- just don't stream it unless there is an incident.

ConcernedParent2 ago

This! Cameras are so cheap these days, someone near the area really should do this. I'm really worried they might be planning something BIG, something that will completely discredit PG.

Please, if you or someone you know lives near here, then go buy a cheap camera and record CPP. It doesn't have to be live streamed, as long as you provide the raw footage later, that works too. But someone needs to do this, if CPP does something really terrible then having footage could save this movement from being discredited.

phlux ago

nothing is going to happen at CPP at this point.

Just keep digging.

Hopevoats ago

Why not? CPP has become a huge liability. It would be in their best interest to get rid of the place. And the way that they operate is to blow shit up and throw out some IDs of supposed "terrorists". They'll conjure up some deranged "Pizzagate Fanatic" and take the place out; so that Alefantis can get out from under the spotlight and cash in on a nice insurance claim.

phlux ago

So assuming "someone" does this... what are the costs?

So: Which GPRS/Cell data streaming cam is best and how can it be discreetly mounted such that the opposers to this idea would not be able to remove it? How legal is it? You'd need multiple cams - but the image it takes will give its location away.

instead, a new system should be developed... a drone which will hover and take images... not video (unless told to but images)...

PizzaGate711 ago

Discredited from what exactly?

ALDO_NOVA ago

had same thought - no amount of false flag operations are going to discredit what has already been found

SIMONBARROW ago

You can't discredit something that's true!

ThePoorPeople ago

No, but you can pay some online trolls to...Correct the Record.

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

VieBleu ago

lol an idealist among us cynics. How refreshing.

thatguyiam ago

Establishment's been doing it successfully for over 40 years now.

....good thing that 4chan guy lives in our time.

FormerBaltimoreRes ago

That's where you're wrong. If the truth wasn't so easy to discredit we would live in a much different world.

SIMONBARROW ago

You can't discredit the truth - you can only fool people into thinking that the truth has been discredited. Truth is invincible.

earthbalance1 ago

This is the same location where the "stink bomb" was being planned by J20, on top of everything else...perhaps a concerned local citizen should setup a live feed to replace the missing shot, ala Frank Winstead. He was warning people pretty vocally.

Fateswebb ago

How do you view this camera?

karenrussell63 ago

http://www.trafficland.com/city/WAS5 - big list of DC area traffic cams

now to easily get to the one near CPP, go here: http://www.trafficland.com/video_feeds/url/200119/

once you go to that page, it will give you the actual link

Millstone ago

These links no longer work. I wonder why??

Millstone ago

Oops never mind. Guess there was a temporary hitch... I can get to the first one, but not this one: http://www.trafficland.com/video_feeds/url/200119/

GeorgeHodelDidit ago

Danger Danger....Trump needs to get the damn FBI or Federal Marshals or some such group to watch that place very very closely the next several days. I hope he doesnt let them say some right winger went in there and killed folks. We would never hear the end of it...but they got to know lots of folks wont believe their bullshit any longer.

PizzaGate711 ago

Good on you for putting that up. Do you live in Washington DC? Because it might be an idea to ask the Police etc why this has happened again.