In my last post, I was looking into a strange email which seemed to mention Tony Podesta owning a "coffee place": https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1560548
I now believe that coffee shop exists, and I think I found it: Art Blu Cafe https://sli.mg/185B9X
Reasons:
- Name - spelling of Cafe is not local italian spelling (Caffe), contains the word art, as Tony Podesta is noted for his art collection (we know him for his perverse art, but the way he's written about is as "art collector" -- https://archive.fo/Mw2Yx))
- Website - note the international signage: https://archive.fo/S9jq9
- Website Pictures - Just 8 pictures on the website, and why is one this? https://sli.mg/lO2bzy - file name is clienti3 (clienti means clients)
- Period of Activity - Take a look at the guestbook: https://archive.fo/bc3ao, active until June of 2015
- Coinciding Events: Tony Podesta filed for divorce in 2014, and discussed the fate of his Venice property https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/46159
- Email - in this email, https://archive.fo/Mta8z (mention of kids, James Alefantis in the sign-off), you can see he mentions driving specifically to San Marco, if you look at the location of this place (https://www.google.com/maps/place/art+blu+caff%C3%A8/@45.432628,12.3302394,20z)))), it's in San Marco
- Surroundings 1 - there is a really strange "Gallery" nearby: http://www.fiorellagallery.com/ (flash takes time to load, and then it is repulsive)
- "Gallery" - more on the Gallery https://archive.fo/uooLL https://sli.mg/VC3SeQ
- Surroundings 2 - and then there's this: https://sli.mg/tObedO (The Pentagram Soc - Coop: an unclaimed business with no website)
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AreWeSure ago
This is not a good piece of reasoning
Plenty of places spell cafe with one f in Italy. I found many within one minute using Google Maps. Here are justom some of the ones in Venice, Itally Impronta Cafe Restaurant Tentazioni Cafe Marechiaro Cafe' Cafe Venezia
They seems to use both cafe and caffe. The map image that you link to shows Caffe. The website uses caff http://www.artblucaffe.com/ While their sign says artblucafe
Jeremy20_9 ago
Thank you for this note. I will update this soon with your insight.
AreWeSure ago
So where is the evidence Podesta owns this place? I don't see any.
Jeremy20_9 ago
The implication of ownership was a overly-conclusive thinking on my part, we have no evidence he owns the place.
All we know for sure, based on the email, is that he's using it as a meeting place with Catherine Chieco, Leslie Dasch, and kids who Chieco has with her, and it is located next to two highly suspicious places.
AreWeSure ago
I don't think artbluecafe is the coffee place based on nothing more than these things.
a. there's no proof he owns the place or any coffee place in Venice b. He's coming to San marco on the number two ferry c. He's meeting friends who are new to Venice
Based on those, I would probably want to meet friends at the Piazza San Marco, St Mark's square which is one of the most visited places in Venice and a fantastic place to sit and wait for someone.
There are two coffee places that have been there for hundreds of years Caffè Florian or Grancaffè Quadri
yeah, I think I would rather meet here
Jeremy20_9 ago
Do you know who Catherine Chieco is?
On Wikileaks I see that she's an intimate knowledge of Tony Podesta's health:
...Sounds like a personal assistant.
So there goes c. of your ideas, because clearly meeting Chieco more than a friend
So why is she bringing sleeping kids to a coffee place? And what does Alefantis care about this?
Have you seen the art that Tony collects? That's what he surrounds himself with during normal hours. And here we have a coffee shop which is internationally oriented right next to an incredibly sick "gallery".
This location resolves the aspects of who we know these people to be, and the things we can very reasonably assume they are involved in.
AreWeSure ago
Confused that email with the other mentioning ,folks looking for places to go in venice. Thought it was a thread,. But I see the dates now.
I don't read that as bringing sleeping kids, but perhaps. I read the JA email as he was supposed to meet with them