I think I found Tony Podesta's coffee shop in Venice...and it is surrounded by horrible things (pizzagate)

submitted ago by Jeremy20_9

In my last post, I was looking into a strange email which seemed to mention Tony Podesta owning a "coffee place": https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1560548

I now believe that coffee shop exists, and I think I found it: Art Blu Cafe https://sli.mg/185B9X

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AreWeSure ago

This is not a good piece of reasoning

Name - spelling of Cafe is not local italian spelling (Caffe)

Plenty of places spell cafe with one f in Italy. I found many within one minute using Google Maps. Here are justom some of the ones in Venice, Itally Impronta Cafe Restaurant Tentazioni Cafe Marechiaro Cafe' Cafe Venezia

They seems to use both cafe and caffe. The map image that you link to shows Caffe. The website uses caff http://www.artblucaffe.com/ While their sign says artblucafe

Jeremy20_9 ago

Thank you for this note. I will update this soon with your insight.

AreWeSure ago

So where is the evidence Podesta owns this place? I don't see any.

Jeremy20_9 ago

The implication of ownership was a overly-conclusive thinking on my part, we have no evidence he owns the place.

All we know for sure, based on the email, is that he's using it as a meeting place with Catherine Chieco, Leslie Dasch, and kids who Chieco has with her, and it is located next to two highly suspicious places.

AreWeSure ago

I don't think artbluecafe is the coffee place based on nothing more than these things.

a. there's no proof he owns the place or any coffee place in Venice b. He's coming to San marco on the number two ferry c. He's meeting friends who are new to Venice

Based on those, I would probably want to meet friends at the Piazza San Marco, St Mark's square which is one of the most visited places in Venice and a fantastic place to sit and wait for someone.

There are two coffee places that have been there for hundreds of years Caffè Florian or Grancaffè Quadri

yeah, I think I would rather meet here

Jeremy20_9 ago

Do you know who Catherine Chieco is?

On Wikileaks I see that she's an intimate knowledge of Tony Podesta's health:

...Sounds like a personal assistant.

So there goes c. of your ideas, because clearly meeting Chieco more than a friend

So why is she bringing sleeping kids to a coffee place? And what does Alefantis care about this?

Have you seen the art that Tony collects? That's what he surrounds himself with during normal hours. And here we have a coffee shop which is internationally oriented right next to an incredibly sick "gallery".

This location resolves the aspects of who we know these people to be, and the things we can very reasonably assume they are involved in.

AreWeSure ago

Confused that email with the other mentioning ,folks looking for places to go in venice. Thought it was a thread,. But I see the dates now.

I don't read that as bringing sleeping kids, but perhaps. I read the JA email as he was supposed to meet with them

AreWeSure ago

I don't think we have that. All we have is a coffee place. Somewhere along the route of his ferry.

Right? artblucafe was introduced by you, it's not in the emails. Correct? My guess is Venice is littered with coffee places.

ThighHighSwampBoots ago

Naff off.

Jeremy20_9 ago

Ergo the title of this post.

Am I permitted to introduce speculation into a highly circumstantial case as a concerned member of the public with no resources other than public info?

Go start your own post explaining what constitutes a good lead and what doesn't.