In my opinion, there is no way this could be coincidental! All JA's properties perfectly align with what we know about the newly discovered tunnels! I even punched in the Pegasus Museum and it was a perfect match! Now we have a reason for why he bought the properties he did. The 3518 property was so strange, but not when you know about the tunnel system that is known to exist.
First, a link to an article on the tunnels Harrison G. Dyar built: https://ggwash.org/view/9513/hidden-tunnels-bugs-and-bigamy and to my previous post on the discovery of the tunnels: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1551092
In the article, it says workmen were excavating property at 2115 P street northwest. This will come into play later on.
Now I first did a map with four locations: Rock Creek Park, CP, The Transformer Museum (1404 P Street), and 2115 P Street. I included the ROCK CREEK PARK because is known that a tunnel runs from P STREET TO ROCK CREEK PARK. Yes, it’s confirmed in this link: https://ggwash.org/view/9513/hidden-tunnels-bugs-and-bigamy What is unknown is where Dyar tunneled along P Street (there is mention of P Street to V Street and also at E and B Streets), but no confirmed addresses. Since 2115 is confirmed by workmen digging at that site, I figured I’d use it. Here is the result:
https://i.sli.mg/f25h0X
You could draw a straight line from THE TRANSFORMER MUSEUM and the 2115P Street location!!!
Then I took put in the new PEGASUS Museum. This is what I got!!!
https://i.sli.mg/7rw8sH
If you take out CP and add in E Street (yes, we know from other articles that Dyar dug at E street), LOOK WHAT HAPPENS!!!
https://i.sli.mg/0Wdnw1
It’s a perfect match! It’s almost a perfectly straight line up from The Transformer Museum up to PEGASUS!!!
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AreWeSure ago
You're completely misreading the article. The tunnels do not go to Rock Creek Park. That was a reported rumor that turned out to be false. Hence, the line "None of the above."
None of the above.
The tunnels were not long and extensive, they were measured in yards not miles. I don't know what your maps are intended to show, but the man did not build miles and miles of tunnels by himself. He basically built two tunnels under houses he lived in. The tunnels didn't extend much beyond his own property. They also both collapsed and each collapse made the Washington Papers. These are not existing and functioning tunnels.
You can see this book for more information. Moths, Myths, and Mosquitoes: The Eccentric Life of Harrison G. Dyar, Jr
waxdino ago
I think the none of the above clearly refers to the "wild theories," not the "reports."
Those tunnels collapsed in places, but were soild, made of brick and well built. What if that is when they were restored and reused? Tell the MSM to say they were "sealed with concrete" and never went anywhere anyway. But rumors of the day had him traveling traveling between two secret families... I really doubt we have all the information on these tunnels.
Yates ago
We've had several extensive tunnel threads here very early on. There is an extensive subway under the capitol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DYwkysVIHU and this is blocks from Dupont Circle with its tunnels, which overlaps the above map. The capitol subway is constantly running and being maintained by a large crew. It would be easy to do similar work elsewhere in the city and stay undetected.
edit: old tunnel thread https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1471543 there are many more
AreWeSure ago
Dude, the tunnels were never very long and didn't connect to anything. If they collapsed in places, they are unusuable.
What if? What if is just making up things. Which is fun, but don't call it evidence. What if they have a Star Trek transporter and could just beam themselves around the city.
This tunnel theory is bunk.
waxdino ago
It's fun to read the MSM, just believe it, and think I'm well informed, but don't call it knowing the whole story. Looking at those brick-lined tunnels, I find it hard to think that even partially collapsed, they couldn't shore them up and reuse them. And if they did, do you think the ap would do a story on it? Or say, "oh they're sealed, and weren't ever really much anyway"?
The theory may be bunk, but I can't discount it until more info is found. What happened between those old-timey stories and the 90s?
AreWeSure ago
Here's a 1992 Associated Press article on Dyar which gives the size of his tunnels
whatonearth ago
I think part of the issue is that Quantokitty is assuming that Rock Creek Park is just the big blob where the words "Rock Creek Park" are written on the Google map. But locals in DC (the audience for that GGW article) will say Rock Creek Park for the entire length running alongside Rock Creek for miles and miles in DC. You can enter the parkland just a block and a half west of where Dyar's house was, at 23rd and P street. The local audience that GGW is written for would interpret "all the way to Rock Creek Park" to mean "a couple blocks underground, which is pretty impressive for one guy working alone in the 19th century", not as "several miles".
Edit: Yeah, looking some more, I'm convinced now that that's the confusion... someone writing for a local audience wrote "to Rock Creek Park" meaning "dang, this one guy built pretty impressive tunnels for like a block or two with relatively primitive technology" and probably never thought an out-of-towner would read it and interpret it to mean all the way up to where there's enough room for Google Maps to fit the words "Rock Creek Park" in.
AreWeSure ago
Actually in general the confusion is the guy built two small tunnels under his properties. He did not build an extensive tunnel system throughout the city or a system that connected to other tunnels.
whatonearth ago
Oh, I agree with you. What I meant was I had a lot of trouble understanding the /u/quantokitty OP, because I have been in that neighborhood and have a good memory for street layouts, so when I saw that the house was around 21st and P and some people thought a tunnel might have reached Rock Creek, I immediately thought "oh, a couple blocks over to 23rd St". So I was scratching my head reading and rereading Quantokitty's post trying to figure out what she thought she had found, until finally I realized that her Google Maps screenshot was meant to imply that Rock Creek Park was miles away from Dyar's house. So not even the article (written for a local audience familiar with the neighborhood) was trying to imply that Dyar's tunnels were long.
For the sake of anyone else trying to figure out what I mean: Rock Creek Park stretches along the entire length of Rock Creek in DC, and you can enter the park just about a minute's walk from where Dyar's house was. If you Google map search for Hotel Palomar DC (which stands where Dyar's house and tunnels were), zoom in and look a little to the west of the hotel and you'll see a small bridge called Luzon's Legion Bridge that crosses over the park. If you use street view to look at the southwest corner of 23rd and P streets there, you can see the brown sign that says "Rock Creek Park Park Watch".
quantokitty ago
What? Have no idea what you're talking about. None.
whatonearth ago
You seemed to think that Dyar built a tunnel that was miles long. I was pointing out that there was no evidence of that because Rock Creek Park passes right by where Dyar's house was, about a one-minute walk away. Then I tried to describe in words how to see that for yourself on Google Maps, because for some reason Voat's mobile site breaks when I try to post links.
iamthepizzanow ago
Hmmm... that could be just as true. How can we know for sure without taking some researchers or reporters word for it? For both parts, of course.
AreWeSure ago
Epistemology is a tricky thing.