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nathanwblair ago

why so many ASSUMING it's all a "joke"? (HINT: SHILLS)

SHARE SHARE SHARE FIGHT BACK THE SHILLS

madmanpg ago

Why are you assuming it's not?

markrod420 ago

I think you guys sometimes forget that these are the private emails of a group of people. If you went through my private communications and took every word completely seriously you would think I'm a racist serial killer who wants to kill off 85% of the world. I'm not saying these emails aren't weird. But some of them REALLY come off as jokes and it isn't unreasonable to assess them that way. As SpikyAube pointed out, taking every single statement at face value while ignoring things that are pretty clearly worded as jokes just makes us all look like retards.

Gone20 ago

People are assuming it's a joke because the tone and usage sounds like a joke...

Wolftrail7272 ago

Suck my downvote.

postfascion ago

Yup, they're biting. The op exaggerated, and got a little too exited, but fuck, investigate yourselves. Who knows, the flaws in the op may be to encourage disbelief

SaneGoatiSwear ago

FIGHT THE SHILLS SILENCING US FUCK YES.

also OP, holy fucking shit. fuck shit fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck. fuck.

also,

PSA to ALL USERS: the admins do nothing when law is broken on voat. the admins do nothing when the user agreement is broken on voat. the admins do nothing when reddit cancer is on voat (anymore). The user agreement is null and void. all bets are off. WINTER IS COMING. take the information as you will. you have been notified of information they have attempted to censor at great cost.

note: downvoating these Publice Service Announcements does not work. https://voat.co/v/whatever/1534074 https://voat.co/v/Parenting/1533925/7466568 hmmmm

PIZZAGATE PSA EDIT: YOU GUYS ROCK! THE ONLY SUB TO UPVOAT A PSA OF VOAT-CENSORED INFO that i commented the psa in. YEAH! SEEK TRUTH PUBLISH WELL.

redditsuckz ago

ALEX JONES WORKS FOR STRATFOR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vWS6tODQxo

Alex Jones EXPOSED

Alex Jones and Jewish Sponsors

http://archive.is/Qz55l

armyseer...another Talmudist apologist...;

Uses the same web theme(black background) as Phobos_Mothership and pizzathrowaway777;

https://i.sli.mg/AGBHuL.png

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1504081

https://i.sli.mg/QCj5Mz.png

And pizzathrowaway777 was caught using 32 alt accounts to upvote himself...

Pizzagate Same mods;

https://i.sli.mg/Z5lAB3.jpg

32+ upvotes from SAME COMPUTER;

https://i.sli.mg/TPCJeA.png

http://i.sli.mg/InQuNf.jpg

armyseer defending his alt account Phobos_Mothership;

Voat is Compromised - Moderator defends Pedo Symbols

http://archive.is/rGeUM

Gone20 ago

In 1998, Jones organized a successful effort to build a new Branch Davidian church, as a memorial to those who died during the 1993 fire that ended the government's siege of the original Branch Davidian complex near Waco, Texas.[36] He often featured the project on his public-access television program and claimed that David Koresh and his followers were peaceful people who were murdered by Attorney General Janet Reno and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms during the siege.[32]

28leinad82 ago

you guys sound absolutely insane right now... the email was clearly a joke. It's like you have all never had a conversation before with someone with a sick sense of humour.

AgainstPedos ago

Definitely NOT a joke. For many years it was common knowledge you could buy a little 5-year-old boy for very little $$ in Mexican border towns. There were always very young kids approaching every Caucasian asking them to buy trinkets.

The language used in the emails demonstrates the authors' inability to see their child victims as individuals let alone human beings with feelings. Therefore they cannot attempt to accurately judge how their targets feel about being sexually molested and raped. Instead they see themselves, physically strong adult males, as the real victims who are being abused by "the system."

SaneGoatiSwear ago

it was a joke?

Gone20 ago

Take your meds

Htaed ago

Shills will attack people with "take your meds" "you need help" "you're mentally ill"

Just sayin.

Gone20 ago

Shills will attack people for saying shills will attack people for saying shills will attack people for saying shills will attack people for saying. Gtfo

thicktail1730947 ago

Argue better. You make SaneGoatiSwear look good, which is bad.

Gone20 ago

Clearly, from my upvoats, I am in the majority.

SaneGoatiSwear ago

personal attack probable hit and run

scripted attack

shill 99% confirmed. logged on chance of shill.

CantWaitToGetAPizzaU ago

we know..

nathanwblair ago

@SaneGoatiSwear notice you got more downvoats than me? your PSA hit a sore spot! nice job! keep it up!

SaneGoatiSwear ago

lol i've had 2000 downvoats this past day and a half.

all to silence me talking about @lockeproposal being a cancer sjw fee-fee deleting mod on voat and that users have been breaking laws on voat for some time now, and since the admins disappeared and came back 1 and 2 months later, they no longer remove illegal content, thus the user agreement is null and void.

oh yeah. i got more dvs than you.

yabbadoody ago

Admins are just protecting their little "pizza space", nothing to hide... except they're recruiting/infiltrating from places like MetaBunk, for one...

madmanpg ago

Nobody is silencing you for not agreeing with these weak, lame connections. On the contrary, it seems that you and yours are downvoting everyone who disagrees.

Wolftrail7272 ago

Faggit

Gone20 ago

Exactly.

SaneGoatiSwear ago

  1. YOU MUST BE BLIND. 1,900 DOWNVOATS IN 36 HOURS ON ME. MASSIVE DISINFO CAMPAIGN AGAINST ME LASING 30+ HOURS ORGANIZED SHILL GROUP SPENT 100 HOURS EASY DOING IT. just to silence me for talking about @lockeproposal being a reddit cancer mod

  2. "you and yours" i don't know anyone else here. and i don't voat on voat anymore. my voats are the same as they were a month ago.

a. you're an idiot

b. you're knowingly lying.

madmanpg ago

"YOU MUST BE BLIND."

You must be irrational. This is not how you get people to believe you. You are hurting the cause.

"a. you're an idiot

b. you're knowingly lying."

These two statements are mutually exclusive. Either I'm a fool or a liar. Which is it? Make up your diseased mind.

SaneGoatiSwear ago

believe me whoops, you my mistake

no. go look at the evidence.

(edit addendum: point stands asshole)

madmanpg ago

Good job quoting words I never used. Thanks for proving your dishonesty.

SaneGoatiSwear ago

personal attacks

misdirection

off topic

shill alarm. chance of shill 20%. logged in case of shill.

madmanpg ago

So I'M a shill because YOU misquoted me? Thank you for proving just how irrational you are.

SaneGoatiSwear ago

shilling has increased

fallacy disinfo list unneeded. shill confirmed. not a paid shill, just an idiot most probably; shilling by accident possible. confirmed either way. capped archived and logged; shill by idiocy.

CantWaitToGetAPizzaU ago

savage

nathanwblair ago

@SaneGoatiSwear WOW! that's AMAZING!

SaneGoatiSwear ago

we'll see (regarding your profile quote.)

what an apt quote!

SpikyAube ago

Because it clearly reads like a joke. It's more shill-like to try to claim every little thing is evidence because it makes the whole investigation lose credibility!

mrjdouble ago

At the absolute very least, this is a godamn HR nightmare and certainly would qualify as conduct unbecoming.

28leinad82 ago

it totally reads like a joke.. people just seem batshit insane for thinking this was a serious email - from a graphic designer... this is detracting from ACTUAL investigation leads.

Theupsidedown ago

Shill

Explain the unlabelled/uncategorized "subscription" services called "pizza," then, you fuck.

WindowsInJudgement ago

So I assume you use company email group messaging to call your co workers pedo's all the time.

It might be a joke but when all the evidence is circumstantial so far it is important to digest it even just to get context on those who you are investigating

SpikyAube ago

No I don't personally, but I know people who do. I've worked in close knit teams before where everyone is actually pretty close friends as well as working together and people do send all kinds of things over the company email that wouldn't be seen as professional to an outsider. Nothing like porn or anything obviously! But silly jokes and in-jokes and stuff - I can totally imagine that email having been sent to someone at my old workplace.

Gone20 ago

The people who think everything is evidence are either nuts and hurting the cause by making ridiculous claims, they're trying to push their own conspiracy/agenda, or they are paid shills or trolls trying to distract people from real facts and solid evidence.

SpikyAube ago

Yeah I agree with this, I find it really irritating!!

Wtfreddit ago

I believe it was a Stratfor email that mentioned slicing a single piece of pizza eight times and was used on a sticky here for a while as evidence. Given the context of that one (asking for a head count for their office pizza party) it seems pretty plausible that it was a lame joke and I personally believe it was .

This however is not easy to write off as a joke. Have you ever heard of NAMBLA before researching PG? I'd be pretty shocked if many people have outside of either pedophiles or the people investigating them. Sure there could be an inside joke with them that "so and so is a pedophile, hur-hur", but even then they'd have to really be committed to the joke to actually research a pedophile activist organisation use it as a part of their joke. On top of all that the person on the receiving end of the joke would likely not be ok with being called a pedophile. None of this is impossible but to me seems pretty unlikely.

joe_hill ago

yeah a joke.

Like Alefantis said for his instagram pics

MrPim ago

Have you ever heard of NAMBLA before researching PG? I'd be pretty shocked if many people have

What? There was an episode of South Park featuring NAMBLA years ago. It's well known.

WindowsInJudgement ago

I think that south park fucking nailed it. I would love. To know what trey Parker and Matt stone make of the whole PG affair

AgainstPedos ago

Yes I've heard of NABLA. Somehow they got my email address and started an exchange of info thanking me for my donation written on a Nevada State Bank Money Order. I assure you I've never had an account with this bank. I don't know if the collection of emails written on NABLA letterhead was from a troll (I'm female) but it was clear the author like the one's in the emails above was not very well educated. I

In fact both series of emails are distinguishable in that the authors are trying to sound far more sophisticated and powerful then they are in real life. That's also true of the pedo's I've run across in person in the field of entertainment where I work. Note how they view themselves as misunderstood victims while lacking any empathy for the objects of their sexual desires.

WindowsInJudgement ago

Emails don't usually have letterheads. The last sentence in your comment also needs explaining

Wtfreddit ago

I see. If that's the case then it very well could be an inside joke of some sort. There are still some weird discrepancies with them (65k hot dogs, international pizza, etc.) but I'm not sure these emails are very damning.

bdmthrfkr ago

Back when NAMBLA was first outed when somebody noticed that they were renting meeting space at the SF public library making NAMBLA jokes was all the rage. It helped us to burn off our actual rage that a pedo organization was operating out of a public space supported by our taxes.

It wouldn't surprise me if this was more of that. Just my two cents.