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CandyPanda ago

This entry seems to match this entry for the Clinton Foundation in all things but the name. The simple explanation is the people at Bizapedia have a problem with their data. Also, the J & T Packaging official record is inactive. When they do the shell companies, it's usually just one zombie director with many of them at a location, and none of them seem to be legit. Someone would have noticed them setting up a company like this, it's too obvious.

https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_ar/100152168

FuckUredditFuckuSpez ago

Wait. What are you saying dude? The link you provided has no mention of The J and T packaging I mentioned... The J and T packing "Official Record" Is an official record for an inactive company that was revoked.... That has nothing to do with the one I linked to that is "In good standing" That information was available before this pizza shit broke.

CandyPanda ago

Because the J & T Company record is not matching in opencorporates in address, names, etc.(Look it up there), different agent. You can feel free to keep digging, but I wouldn't rely on a data aggregator on the internet as a valid source. People do keep tabs on companies that big politicians open, I can send you links where they question it. Someone would have questioned this way back if those people showed up on a company named J & T Packaging. There's all kinds of games they've been playing with shell games, but these people have already been doing it through the Clinton Foundation, everyone is calling them out, and even someone has audited them and found them guilty, but no charges. If you think this is leading you somewhere, feel free, but like I said, everything (including address) matches the Clinton Foundation itself.

FuckUredditFuckuSpez ago

Dude. I'm sorry. I need coffee or something.... BUt I'm confused what you're saying...

https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_ar/100152178 There is the information for J and T packaging company.... That is the same Information that user standalone linked to.

SO BOTH OF THESE, are equally irrelevant, in determining the validity of the company listing I originally linked to.

Help me out here man... What is this insinuation? That https://www.bizapedia.com/ar/j-t-packing-company-inc.html Is just completely fabricated out of deleberate misinformation?

How does that make any sense? IF there is nothing to this company and the people involved....WHY WOULD THEY BOTHER FABRICATING FALSE INFORMATION ABOUT IT... IF it IS MEANT TO BE FOUND TO THROW PEOPLE OFF THE RIGHT TRAIL, Then it would be false information that leads somewhere that will waste time...

The info I provided, Leads nowhere, Other than the information itself. Which I Can't understand why they woud that.

CandyPanda ago

I'm saying the company that does the bizapedia sources the info from something and might have screwed up. My only point is, and again I believe you 100% in what you're trying to do because I'm with you there, is that it's not what we used to call the "golden copy" of data. Where I used to work (big company), we ran into constant issues with stale data or copy data or changed data, then managers would freak out because this report or site didn't match that one. That's all I'm saying. I'm saying the bizapedia puts us at the clinton foundation based on the "golden source" or as close to a reliable source as we have (which still sucks in its own way with alpha matching).

So rather than make it seem like I'm getting on you, which I'm not, let's just say both are at the same place - the Clinton Foundation. Where can we go from from here? I mean, the Foundation itself (with those people and that address) are taking money from foreign interests as it is. Where do you want to take this, and I'll help out. Right now, I'm arriving at the physical location of the Clinton Foundation based on the Bizapedia link too, just with some sketchy name.

FuckUredditFuckuSpez ago

"I'm saying the company that does the bizapedia sources the info from something and might have screwed up."

Yeah. They might have...but based on what we have... there is nothing that can reasonably lead us to that conclusion, especially what was said by the people saying this is fabricated information.

But can we take a second to address the implications behind that.

I have DOZENS FILINGS That can be verified as "not being screwed up" from that same source. Am I saying that I can verify that source as being 100% accurate on everything? Well I guess not. BUt I can verify that is accurate on the dozens of filings I've posted on my other post... My biggest issue with all of this, Is the notion that the Inactive filing here is somehow indicative of my information being completely fabricated as a red herring.

Taken From my edit:

"Ok. So let me clarify these insinuations...

  • The claim is that somebody made an actual business filing,
  • With a fake company,
  • With all of these key people involved,
  • MONTHS BEFORE PIZZA GATE BROKE. In hopes that it would be found?
  • EVEN THOUGH NO ONE HAS FOUND IT UP UNTIL NOW, AND THE ONLY REASON I FOUND IT, IS BECAUSE I'M RESEARCHING ANGLES THAT OTHERS HAVE NOT.
  • And they reason they did this, Was so that it would lead people down a false trail....
  • EXCEPT THERE IS NO TRAIL AT ALL, OTHER THAN THE FILING AND LISTING IT SELF. Wouldn't you lead people down a false trail, That has many false ways it could go....
  • and EVEN THOUGH, Both sources were equally easy to find(Not easy to find, But I found them both at the same time) as I found the "Inactive, revoked one" at the same time I found the Good standing one(that contains all key people)

The comments Addressing that notion, Do so in overtly confident and dismissive way, yet have no reason to be confident OR dismissive. It's simply Two separate pieces of information, Neither being relevant to the validity of the other, since they are not both active.

If it is two active filings with The same LLC and completely different information, that STILL doesn't mean one is fabricated in attempt to be a red herring. The only thing it means, is there are more red Flags Needed investigating.

CandyPanda ago

Oh I agree. Never said it was fabricated intentionally. Just saying this is a data maze and wanted to point out to you how it's all matching the Clinton Foundation too. You're fighting the good fight, and I'm with you. I have run into all kinds of schemes with Andrew J Kline as well, but not many on here get the connections. I've also found that Delaware is where they run shell companies with different names that match other names and locations in the Panama Paper data that will put you at some brownstone or old house running as a small business location (with 12 companies when it can't even house more than 6). I am just admitting I don't know where to take it online because most people don't get how money laundering works and how all of this is breaking the law. Everything I've seen you post is stuff I've looked at with you and yeah, there's nothing wrong with pointing this out - it's odd. And if you look at the agent on that opencorporate search for the same company, he's tied to companies like China Signs LLC which runs out of Arkansas and makes you look back at when Clinton opened trade up between us and China back in 1993.

So sure, it could be a reverse mistake where the source on the other end got changed and the aggregator somehow matched up with the Clinton Foundation location because it seems to think it lines up still.

Here's the Arkansas gov listing for the company in question:

http://www.sos.arkansas.gov/corps/search_corps.php?DETAIL=152939&corp_type_id=1&corp_name=&agent_search=&agent_city=&agent_state=&filing_number=&cmd=

The biggest issue with our lookups here is they don't give us access to the underling filings. The UK one does so you can see when locations, names, and directors moving on and off.

FuckUredditFuckuSpez ago

I Can't read your whole post and reply thoughfully at this very second... I 've written it down On my notebook So I don't forget to some back.

BUt my only anger and annoyance, Came from the insinuations that this infomration WAS fabricated, as a red herring.... So if I replied To an earlier post of yours, in overtly Hostile manner, It was because I mistakenly assumed you were defending the notion that it was Fabricated.

CandyPanda ago

You have every right to be angry in this. I didn't take it personally. What is happening are crimes against humanity on all fronts, and anyone defending that are sick. I will keep looking to see if I find anything else and post it in a separate comment so I don't distract you from the cause.

FuckUredditFuckuSpez ago

Yeah I may Have the right, But getting upset in the way I often do, is extremely counterproductive. Unfortunately, even though I know that, I continue to do it.

I can have 100 supportive or helpful comments, but I devote all my energy to the few that I deem Irrational.

Having questions about these topics is never irrational.

Making a post deeming this as a red herring, planted by ctr... Is irrational as it gets. (Not talking about you) And the Fact that it gets voted to the top, even though there's nothing to support that claim, Is the biggest factor in my irrational response.

But w.e Moving forward. Hopefully This is will be more clear one way or the other, soon.Thanks for puting up with me.