This post is helping the enemy. Ted Gunderson was a COINTELPRO disinformant. COINTELPRO is an FBI program aimed at disrupting dissidents. His goal was actually to discredit claims of elite pedophile rings (and claims about 9/11) by introducing fake evidence, "poisoning the well," giving talks to groups of conspiracy researches to get them to adopt bad evidence and false "tinfoil hat" versions of their theories (e.g. "no planes on 9/11"), in order to discredit the true general claims (e.g. 9/11 = inside job) with the general public. He promoted the claim that there were NO PLANES on 9/11, and he promoted the McMartin Preschool case as an example of an elite pedophile ring. The McMartin case is a well-known case of false allegations. The mother who made the initial allegations was crazy. She based it on her son having disrupted bowel movements. The jury exonerated the accused because video showed the interviewers basically coercing the toddlers into saying they were abused, using leading questions that violated California guidelines at the time. One of the kids sent an apology to the LA times as an adult. That case was the real case of false memories that spawned the whole concept. I have seen claims that he has connection to The Temple of Set (founder was Michael Aquino, Presidio military abuse case perpetrator), and that he married Anton LaVey's widow (can't find reliable source on that yet).

Damn, what a maytr.

MK-ULTRA is based upon Luciferian beliefs and practices, not Satanic.

Luciferians worship Lucifer, not Satan. The two entities are NOT interchangeable.

Any text about it, many people don't watch video links.

We are the weapon! Never forget that.

Wasn't he the guy who exposed the 'Finders Cult' and was silenced when trying to build a case against them for trafficking children? This isn't strictly 'pizzagate' related but posting what I know.

Look it up on youtube but cliffnotes is that the Finders Cult was a small outfit in the 90s who got busted with a van full of grungy looking children they were moving across state lines, when the FBI moved to investigate the group it came to light they were contracted by the CIA to supposedly do tech stuff, spy on foreign gov'ts and groups etc and were basically untouchable. Same Gunderson who investigated that case?

You're right, the algorithm is far from good. The site is run by 2 guys who want free speech. Funding comes from user donations that are true user donations. There is no major advertising or purchase of how the site is run. Voat has a lot of great users who read /v/new and vote for the useful posts.

I right clicked and opened your link in a new tab and will read it after posting this. I thank you for contributing and have been on Voat over a year and only want the site to grow without outside interference.

Ted was a great man. Everyone interested in PIZZAGATE should watch his vids on youtube where he explains all about the satanic child trafficking rings.

Because they know that it is, and because they will nuke the world if you pull on the thread hard enough. For that reason alone, I'm following this down to the very bitter end.

I dare you kikes. Push the button. Prove me right.

More Ted Gunderson 2008. Just amazing how clear and comprehensive he is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2DSUxq8Yr0

Agreed. I see mostly useless info on my "hot" pizzagate page. I usually have to click the "new" section to find decent, new info.

Please post this to the main. Use a disposable laptop if you don't feel comfortable. The Fourth Reich will rise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmGqG3grTrg

Perhaps, instead of renaming pizzagate, Gunderson's revenge, it could become the larger name, for this investigative entity to continue under? After we have solved pizzagate specifically, that is... I have a confidence, that we can, since there is so much resources between us. And if we do have a successful result, then doing more, will be a natural consideration.

Does Gunderson mention Podesta in that talk? Sounds like it to me, near the end. He says it more with an an E than an O, which I can not fault him for. Podesta was around then, and... I will have to have another listen... Yep, he says it at 59.00 and Pedesto by the way, he says. Maybe he had to slip it in quietly? Can anyone else confirm what he says, please?

I oppose with his language and while the fact that he refuses to fall into this diplomatic political correctness language I can respect, I respect too that he at least communicates on an emotional level with the Fox News Masses (insert random white trash insult), the other politicians dont even bother doing that. While this is clever populist strategy and also valid democracy hearing their concerns too I take concern over some points he openly made. It's close to suspicious how few traces lead to republicans of this shit yet. Coming from a far left position, I too think that many things allow the suspicion that hes actually really really smart and aiming for good things. My point is just to not drop your guard and be suspicious if hes too far into that shit too until he shows proof. Hope is dangerous. I guess we will see further in february.

The truth is too surreal for people to depend on hearsay as enough evidence to flip their worldview. Talks of satanic cults, global sex and drug trafficking and more, it wont be digested.

Even a lot of conspiracy researchers have dismissed him as a psyop because a lot of his claims are so outlandish.

Pizzagate is showing us how much he said was true.

Google professor Tom Philpot. They suicided him way back, but his video is still on Youtube.

They smeared his credibility with the mcmartin preschool thing when they didnt find the entrances to the tunnels. Idk what was going on with that case psyop maybe

i don't think it's reasonable to use the word "proof" in this instance. lots of people with impressive resumes say lots of things, does that prove what they say is true?

I'm sorry, WHAT? A high-tier FBI agent said that? Why have I not heard about this before?

Don't let them bury the Truth. Watch this video...where do you think they are getting these kids from???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWngNsOShx4YouTubeYouTubeYouTube

They admit it in their OWN data!!! 74% of likely sex trafficking victims were in the care of SOCIAL SERVICES or FOSTER CARE!!!

http://www.missingkids.com/1in5

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1464668

I'm compiling a list of evidence of a global conspiracy, this is going on it. Before that's finished, please check out https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1466894

That's a masterlist on leads pertaining to the current investigation. This needs to be upvoted so new investigators can know what to look for.

I believe this is the single most important watch once you have some knowledge of #pizzagate. It confirms everything, but if this is your first encounter with the topic then it will likely leave you confused and doubtful.

Claimed the FBI did the first WTC Center bombing too. So you can see why the FBI might have started to doubt the guy in his retirement.

What about the death of Nancy Schaefer ?

Didn't he start investigating this AFTER he worked at the FBI?

That's probably why he's easily discredited. He didn't do it on the job, therefore he's just another schlub conspiracy theorist like us.

Don't ascribe to malice what could easily be explained by incompetence. People who are well intentioned are going to make mistakes, most people are not professional researchers I imagine, and different people have different ideas about what should be focused on. It's good to be wary obviously but also don't suspect that everyone who has done something you wouldn't have done or has done something wrong or badly or fucked up is a shill. We'll never get anywhere if there is no trust at all and no making allowances for the fact that this is not a slick professional operation here and plenty of people doing their best with little to no experience in research, criminal investigations, PR, marketing, collaborative working etc.

Eh? What database found on whose computers?

I have red pilled countless people with Ted Gundersons speech

In my own convoluted opinion, when you have 2 Brit princes (Andrew and Charles) linked with 3 of the most prolific pedos: Epstein, Savile, Harris ....it just makes sense that the swamp is populated with sick fucking fish

Nearly everyone one of these pedo trafficking, CPS and day care center corruption cases ends the same - with children not being believed, researchers and investigators being killed and guilty parties going free and the media quieted.

Ted Gunderson has been involved in several cases... however, he has also been tied to COINTELPRO. And for the record - ANYONE tied to the CIA must be considered cautiously. Take the McMartin case, for instance. There were three sets of parents of children who reported the crimes against their children. When the tunnels were found under the daycare center (which was how the children were taken out and into vehicles and transported to other sites of rape and torture), Gunderson befriended the mother of one of the children and literally moved in with her to "help her" investigate. She reports that he then overtook the investigation and sabotaged it. She also caught him trying to poison her. Subsequently, Gunderson has been linked by marriage to the occult:

The Strange Case of Ted Gunderson

Retired Head of FBI tells all - Illuminati, Satanism, Pedophile Rings

I agree that he was also killed in the end - possibly because he simply lost his mind in old age and became a risk to the CIA. Who knows.

Thanks for bringing that to my attention. It means that the writing is on the wall. I'm archiving what I need and I will be off soon. Cheers.

Just found it. But I had to fetch it from my own history. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1449130. This post is THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE. Why is it not the sticky? Instead we have a welcome post for newcomers. How does that help the real researchers who have been working tirelessly to put that together ????

Here is something related: Ted Gunderson — The CIA & Satanism Including a very well written piece from 2015 by Gordon Duff, who for some difficult to understand reason recently have been acting as a champion for Hillary and Soros.

I just went to fetch for you the huge post on the Clinton Foundation which has been the board's sticky for the last couple of weeks and it's no longer there !!!! Where is it ??? That, by far, is the most important post on this subverse.

The reason is simple. These allegations will not be investigated by the people who are paid to police these crimes because they are part of the syndicate. It is the same MO of big corporations seizing control of a regulatory agency that oversees that corporation. No one even gets questioned when shit hits the fan. If Trump doesn't do something about it day 1, we will know he is in with them.

Because they are they elite. They up until now have been untouchable. Until now.

I recommend to every Newbie here... you need to go to youtube and search TED GUNDERSON and watch his videos.... ex-head of FBI, now dead

It's a simple formula - discredit anyone by using a thought-terminating cliche, like "conspiracy theory" or "fake news."

We should do as much as we can...before they turn the Internet off.

Don't forget: without widespread internet you would have never heard about pizzagate! You would know only, what CNN & the club is telling you about it. Without the net they probably would have not even mentioned it.

This is a historical chance. If it can't get investigated now, I am sure they will close this window of opportunity within a few years.

Ted was right. Thanks for posting about this. New folks need to go research the stuff that has been ongoing. This is not new!

I don't know much about this, but I'd like more information on it.

When the criminals own the FBI, CIA, DOJ, and who knows how many politicians that are in on it, who do you think is going to charge or prosecute anyone? None of this is new information. It may be new to pizzagate people, but it isn't a discovery.

The only chance will come from new people in power. Until then, all of the accusations and trails tying different people to each other makes pizzagate sound more like Chicken Little each day.

Gather real proof, present it to the right people once they are in position. And be assured, there is plenty of real proof already in the hands people that may, at some point, be able to act on it.

Personally, I'll be blocking this sub. I have no doubt that this is a real situation and that it is absolutely disgusting. But I'm tired of seeing every other post being some ground breaking "discovery" about the pedos or who is covering up for them. Good luck with your quest.

I watched a lecture of his when I first started reading on Pizzagate. I thought he was bat shit crazy. Now? Not so much. Now I wish he was still alive. He tried so many years to get people to listen, yet we did not. We must not let his life work get shit on again. We must see Pizzagate through whether it's prosecuted or debunked. We owe Gunderson that much.

Child Protective Services Stealing & Sex Trafficking Children Stories Could Get You Killed

http://freedomoutpost.com/child-protective-services-stealing-sex-trafficking-children-stories-get-killed-must-exposed/