There has been a lot of discussion and drama re modding lately. We have multiple camps of opinions.
I want whats best for this sub. I'm not an experienced mod but I can see that leaving everything to its own devices has led to a lot of circlejerk, concern trolling, waste of space submissions.
This subverse is for the investigation of pizzagate connections, to further our understanding of the situation and find more relationships and potentially some evidence.
We are all concerned about shills and the subverse being compromised. Make no mistake, shills are here and in great force. They are trying to create drama, they are trying to frame us as racists, they are trying to mislead us and they are trying to distract us.
To that end, I am going to put the following rules in place and as mods we will start to enforce them. The purpose of these rules is to concentrate the efforts here and facilitate meaningful dialogue, as well as remove all the noise. This is going to be hard. Sorting things is hard. We will make mistakes. We will ask you guys for input. Please feel free to check the mod logs at all times and call us out if you have any objections.
These rules are open for discussion, below. Please let me know your thoughts.
1. Concern trolling posts will be deleted unless substantiated or adding significant value
There are currently a number of concern troll posts - such as concerns about antisemitism (that have zero examples or proof), concerns about the fact that we're doing it wrong etc. Concern trolling adds no value to the sub, it clutters it. We want to hear your concerns, you can IM us or use the @ handle.
2. Zero tolerance for spam
Spam posts will be deleted and users banned.
3. Title/picture only posts with no explanation
This is an investigation, explain how your submission is linked in. Dont be lazy.
Like I mentioned, I'm new to modding. We may add more rules as you guys comment below, and we may change the above. But for now I'm going to do a bit of a cleanup, feel free to provide feedback. I'm sick of the state of things as much as you guys.
If you want to be helpful, here's a link to the previous sticky which we will reinstate soon. It contains direction and where to focus - https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1434672
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Pizzagatethroaway499 ago
Is there anyway to tell who is down voting things? I just submitted something that I think is very crucial and it has 2 down votes in a matter of minutes. I'm new to voat and not sure exactly how this works but it doesn't seem right that people can do that without an explanation unless they are shills! That might be a way of getting rid of them if you knew who was down voting good leads!
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1438615
Thank you!
Spuddlebuns ago
If you are posting to get upvotes, you are posting for the wrong reasons. If you are worrying about downvotes, you are posting for the wrong reasons. Numbers don't lie, so unless you see a LARGE PERCENTAGE of downvotes, don't worry about it. What YOU think is 'very crucial,' may not be. Or it may not be the first time it has been brought up. This place has exploded with info and people the past 3 days. Don't get your knickers in a gather over little things like downvotes. You are not going to hinge a Nobel Peace Prize on a few downvotes, and people will most likely STILL read your "very crucial" post. This subverse is NOT a popularity contest.
Also DO keep in mind that you cannot even GIVE a downvote until you have sufficiently participated within VOAT. So any downvotes (at least for awhile) are from people who have earned the right to not like what you say.
Pizzagatethroaway499 ago
Trust me I'm not worried about a Nobel Peace prize or really down voting if it wasn't linked to the number of people who can see it and get it out there! I really wish I could submit my clues to someone and have that person post but unfortunately I don't trust ANYONE! And to the person who said take all satanism out that's simply crazy! That's how this whole thing started if you remember with spiritcooking and it is vital to this investigation! You can't leave anything out!
Spuddlebuns ago
Agreed, but what YOU consider "vitally CRUCIAL,' may not be all THAT crucial. There are literally tons of things to be brought up, investigated, and validated. Data is being spackled over and painted and made private as we speak, so yes, time is important as well. BUT a couple of downvotes is nothing to get so riled up about. This subverse is not geared to who the most popular contributor is, although it may give a reflection on how much validity your posts will garner. Two downvotes does not make your info disappear, so it isn't getting "left out."
You are too concerned with the popularity contest, instead of your data in this instance.