How to resolve v/gaming current situation? (gaming)

submitted ago by sguevar

I personally agreed with u/Aged ban from v/gaming before.

However, despite of disagreeing with his defenders, I think the v/gaming community needs a chance to getting this resolved in a more diplomatic way.

Since we are all getting annoyed by the constant posts done by u/theoldones and his detractors, which I should say are engaging in downvote brigading - yes both parties - then I think we need to handle this matter differently.

I have actually paid close attention to the hole situation and liked what @Obrez had to say about it on his reply to my comment on this post: https://voat.co/v/whatever/3142426.

My comment - https://voat.co/v/whatever/3142426/17859850 Obrez's comment - https://voat.co/v/whatever/3142426/17869265

This is why I created this poll to allow the v/gaming community to sort this matter once and for all and we can all move on. This should also work as a precedent to solve any other similar issue on different system and public subs:

LINK REMOVED FOR REVIEW

THIS POLL IS COMPLETELY ANONYMOUS AND NO PERSONAL INFORMATION IS NEEDED TO FILL IT

This poll will be active until this Sunday, April 14th at 4 pm CST.

I shall then make a new post on v/gaming with the results of the poll asking for @Puttitout to honor it's results.

UPDATE:-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The link of the poll has been removed for review and consultation with PuttItOut, Cynabuns and MadWorld.

Some users presented good additional alternatives to creating a new rule and hence they need to be presented on the poll as well.

Plus @thantik presented a valid concern regarding the wording of the poll in question. (Despite calling me a kike like a faggot XD - but hey, all in good faith).

So I will be recreating the poll to contain all the alternatives I saw plausible and viable instead of creating a new rule on v/gaming and that reduce the risk of being a push poll.

I want this to be as least biased as possible allowing an objective presentation of the results so the v/gaming community can decide what to do with this whole matter. I will be returning with a new post and a completely corrected poll.

Sorry for the nuances here and thanks for the feedback!

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Octocopter ago

Putt made his decision enough fucking polls already. No rules broken = no reddit style bans. You want to do something actually useful? Petition to have gaming's rules updated.

sguevar ago

The poll is precisely for that.

I believe @Puttitout stated that this was up for the community to resolve and this is the best way to resolve the matter as I am sure we are all tired of the approach that has been taken by both u/Aged's accusers and defenders.

17897995? ago

It's bigger then /v/gaming. Puttitout put it up for discussion on /v/voat because it impacts every single system subverse.

And frankly, its a tard war where both should be downvoted. That's what the votes are for. Disable thumbnails if you are really upset about the images, you will still be able to downvote away.

And all the voat users that have decided to clamour for censorship of legal, but offensive speech. A rant that mirrors my own views. For new rules. You are literally pushing for censorship that even Nintendo doesn't engage in. And yeah, no hentai. Guess what, he hasn't posted it. Go "no ecchi"/"no anime", no better then Steam censorship, and aged would then just start posting western art.

sguevar ago

And frankly, its a tard war where both should be downvoted.

Agreed.

I understand your position there, however you should fill the poll then. It also gives you the option for no new rules to be created.

The main thing here is that the v/gaming community decides what should happen and then honor the results.

If new rules are requested then that should be done. If not, then downvote and move on. And with that we should put to rest the entire matter once and for all.

17898256? ago

And you know what, I don't trust any poll outside of that was in beta on the preview site. Because I don't know you. I don't know https://sguevar87.wufoo.com

Everything I have to say on voat, stays on voat. Everything I have to say on /v/gaming stays on /v/gaming. Everything coming from an outside site is bullshit. No outside polls. If you didn't see the global sticky, its own damn fault. The fact that you didn't link it, but you're oh so informed makes me call another layer of bullshit. https://voat.co/v/Voat/3105929

sguevar ago

Understandable, if you have a better solution to approach the intake of the whole v/gaming community I am all ears.

I was one of the users that responded to that thread Puttitout made - and I quote what he stated:

So, good luck Voat. I'll be back when you Goats figure this one out. ;)

17898721? ago

Yeah. He had it sticky for a time. Reflected, read what goats said, and then unbanned aged.

Block users means blocking their content is still the best solution. It means theoldones never has to see another aged post again. I even gave a second option, if the rules do need updating, and that is just forcing all ecchi, aka rate T for Teen or above content, aka the questionable content, as NSFW. People can go into their settings and disable NSFW content for themselves. Content isn't banned. Aged isn't banned. But people can then opt out of NSFW content for themselves.

I am personally tired of voat unironically arguing against legal, but offensive speech.

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sguevar ago

Block users means blocking their content is still the best solution. It means theoldones never has to see another aged post again. I even gave a second option, if the rules do need updating, and that is just forcing all ecchi, aka rate T for Teen or above content, aka the questionable content, as NSFW. People can go into their settings and disable NSFW content for themselves. Content isn't banned. Aged isn't banned. But people can then opt out of NSFW content for themselves.

I do agree on your proposals to be honest. But that would be something that Putt will have to handle there to modify the Block users and NSFW. I should add that not all drawings he posts are NSFW and are just lolicon content. If the NSFW tag is added to the lolicon content on all of Voat I would second that as well.

I am personally tired of voat unironically arguing against legal, but offensive speech.

I also agree with this. As the content is legal (sadly) I can't ask for u/Aged to be banned from Voat perse nor from v/gaming as per the legality of the content he posts. And I am open to denouncing him and downvote and move on. As I have done in the past. But this particular poll was created because I am tired of seeing u/theoldones making posts complaining about the matter and his detractors making posts complaining about his posts. Is simply moronic to say the least.

So we need to find a swift way to end with this nonsense so the community can reach a common ground and move on.

jewish_nigger_faggot ago

Blocking users or NSFW content are both viable solutions for people who don't want to view /u/Aged content. But you're misunderstanding what /u/theoldones wants. He doesn't just not want to see the content himself, he wants to wage a personal crusade against the things he deems immoral. He won't be satisfied with such solutions.