We have had 0 (zero) gag orders, National Security requests, FISA orders, injunctions, super-injunctions, publication bans, nor any free-speech prohibiting sanction against us, nor against Voat, nor against any signed-in user of Voat, nor against any guest user of Voat.
Please refer to the Last edit time for the most recent effective date of this notice.
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calliecat ago
If you omit the long middle part, the true meaning of this canary is clear: "we have HAD 0 (zero).... to the date of the last posting/updating of this notification". Since the last canary update, there has probably been a gag order, National Security Request, FISA order, injunction, etc. Very concerning.
Chiefpacman ago
Can you explain this canary in lamen terms? It's really starting to make me feel stupid.
Sanegoati tried explaining it. I'm familiar with canary in the coal mine metaphor. How is this post protecting future posts?
SaneGoatiSwear ago
sanegoat's fine.
if they gag our admins, we can never know.
so the admins always keep posting this
they can't be made to lie to us, so if they get gagged, the couldn't click the update anymore, cause that would be lying to us (gag's can compel you not to speak truth, but not to lie)
thus telling us without telling us there's been a gag.
HarveyHarveyJones ago
At this point i'm not even convinced atko is himself anymore. I can never say for sure like some other users on here. And it would be nice to get a poll going.... it'd be awful if atko really was just himself, just much busier with stupid shit to deal with from voat, possibly all sorts of outlets. The admins website had a big effect of the election imo. Let's say hillary/soros/royals/elite stepped in and asked questions, then demanded answers... maybe even action... but at what point do these people stop to think about consequences? No such point exists because they're busy wearing about their next move to stay clean. He might not be dead... and he may very well still be admin of the site... but how hard would it be to find someone who knows computer-savy Web design, whose code punchy, and can figure out how to seem real with his audience. Then again how hard is it to strike fear into someone who operates a site that was hosting explicit CP and maybe something to do with all the [_____]gates and hacking over emails. I imagine you make quite a few enemies when rejecting regulated moderation requests.
eBev ago
I'm considering this...maybe for a long time. Who'd emit the gag order?
Lag-wagon ago
Government?
Chiefpacman ago
I see
SaneGoatiSwear ago
glad i could help. now let's get them pressing it instead of this bot.
Chiefpacman ago
You actually explained it way better there.
But then you confused me again. Whats point of what you've described as a canary if a bots doing it?
Like how would it help us know they haven't been compromised?
SaneGoatiSwear ago
a gag compels you to not speak a truth (that you've been gagged, there's an investigation, etc)....
but can't force you to lie.
afaik bots don't apply
also, it's possible (although not proven) that for "national security" they can do what the fuck ever they want.
and remember this: all a canary does is tell us if something specific has happened to voat.
that we're all being spied on doesn't change. canaries don't protect us from spying or anything. all they do is notify US of something happening to voat/us where otherwise we would never ever know about it ever (which is bullshit).
Womb_Raider ago
How does this bot know the canary isn't dead? That seems suspicious
Chiefpacman ago
Spying in this context I mean
Chiefpacman ago
Define spying if you would sir.
I finally grasp it now I think
SaneGoatiSwear ago
there is 0 point if it's a bot, as that's not a person that 1. can be gagged. 2. can not be forced to lie (in a gag situation)