Read CONTEXT at end of post
Currently Voat’s "Private" subverse feature is primarily used to allow subs to disassociate their posts from v/all, all content is still public in every sense other than this. This isn’t really private, it’s more like a hidden setting.
For internal reasons Voat needs to implement a private subverse feature in which only approved people have access to the subverse content (pro tip: a lot of features we work on and end up offering were/are primarily developed for internal reasons like the upcoming Vote and Packages features).
Before we start any work on this feature, I want to discuss how to develop this feature and get your feedback and concerns.
As I see it, we have the classic concept of Private in which only approved people (members) can access subverse content. The only question is one of implementation: what controls access to subverse: subscriptions or moderator privileges? If we use subscriptions, we will have to modify the process so that moderators can approve a subscription request, otherwise the moderator feature would suffice. If we use a moderator approach, other users can see who is part of the private subverse which is good for transparency. Pros/cons to both approaches.
Some concerns I see:
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Should we have different "Private" settings like a ReadOnly
differentiation so that a subverse can choose to display content to non-members but not allow non-members to submit posts/comments i.e. a read only approach?
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What if a subverse is private and a new subscriber is added, should this new member have full access to subverse content or should all content submitted before they were added be inaccessible to them? In other words, only content submitted after a user became a member is visible to them. This concern is to allow existing members to be reassured their prior content is protected.
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Should private subverse content show up in front-page/sets or should the subverse content only be accessible via navigating to the subverse itself?
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Should pings be dropped when the target user isn’t a member?
There are probably other considerations I haven’t thought about, so let me know your thoughts.
CONTEXT
As with any change, we are all looking at the potential for abuse (which I see), so I want to give everyone a context of where this comes from so you can see the intentions involved with the thought.
I want to setup a corporate Voat instance for business related concerns that will be accessible by all Voat employees and members of the community that are involved with the operations of Voat (this is called dogfooding in the software world). In this instance I'd like to have a subverse about Finances that is restricted to only company executives, as well as a Legal subverse accessible to legal council, etc.
In these scenarios, private subverses are needed as a Voat developer or community manager wouldn't need access to this "sensitive" content.
I think it's important to note where this idea stems from and that this idea was never one of ill intention (i.e. This is the end of Voat!). This is why I mentioned "internal" above.
As always, we are just getting feedback here, let's try to look for solutions to the concerns rather than throwing out the baby with the bath water.
Edit
Consensus is in: Voat loves this idea... Pause... Pause... Not. ;)
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truthwoke33 ago
What are your plans to mitigate user abuse e.g. creating a secret CP sub or a harassment sub?
PuttItOut ago
This is a very good point. Every feature we dev has a negative side to it, and what you mention is one.
Maybe some way to counter/offset this perhaps?
truthwoke33 ago
And as expected, you give non answers to softball questions.
Why are you using resources on a feature that nobody requested? How does this benefit users?
PuttItOut ago
And you speak for everyone? You are one person and I take what you say as such. Back off with the absolutes and I'll take you seriously.
I said "internal" reasons earlier.
truthwoke33 ago
Ok, I respectfully ask what, in your opinion, the benefit of private subs is to the user base of voat. I'm on the website very frequently, including site subs so honestly, yes I'm pretty confident in saying that a very small minority may be requesting such a feature. Thanks for your reply.
Though, to be honest, I don't trust anyone who has mystery investors. I just can't, it doesn't make sense from a business perspective.
PuttItOut ago
Added some context to the post to address where the idea stems from.
I can't believe I'm going to say this but I agree with everything you said. To build on your thoughts... The Vote feature that will soon be released will be restricted heavily, and I can see the same course of action if we develop out Private subs.
truthwoke33 ago
I will say I'm glad to hear you've been working on improving the vote system and I'm interested in seeing what you release.