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LordKX ago

All of the defenses of the holocaust you present are incorrect as defenses for the simple reason that the exact number of people killed or methods used are irrelevant for why most people see the holocaust as wrong. What most people find morally objectionable is that innocent individuals were forcefully rounded up and killed by their government. In addition, based on your defenses of Hitler's character and motives, I think you overlook the fact that Hitler was far from a trustworthy or upstanding moral individual. Just as with anyone, words alone can't be trusted, context and associated actions are important as well.

On jews, I want to know, what is your explanation for why jew protectionist groups are encouraging mass migration of immigrants who hate them?

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

they were not rounded up and killed most of them died to typhus, no gas chambers or anything of the sort, they were rounded up and put to work and if you look at Auschwitz with it's amenities including a swimming pool and a brothel even they were not treated all that badly.

the second part is an easy one, if it gets too bad they'll simply leave. The issue is unlike them I don't have an israel to flee to. I ask in return why is israel not diverse? why ha Israel taken no refugees? why does israel have such big walls and strict border control?

LordKX ago

"Most of them" Even the sources the OP linked don't say that nobody was killed. No shit starvation and various other causes killed plenty, but not only were people directly murdered, if I kidnap somebody and put them in my basement with no food, its still murder. Also, adding on to what other people said, when others did similar, or in some cases in history worse, it was bad too, deflection and relativism don't change facts.

Do you think Israel can house every jew in the world? And to answer your questions, 1. I don't give a shit about diversity, if anything its bad for society. 2. Because Israel isn't retarded by white guilt. 3. To keep the people that want to kill them out.

Your first statement and following rhetorical questions are not answers. It not like there aren't non-muslim areas of the world filled with low skill refugees/"workers" who can be imported, so why the focus on immigrants who hate jews? In addition, even if it was just a case of "we can always fall back to Israel," what do you think Israel's odds are if all of europe and the middle east are populated by groups who want to kill them and believe suicide to kill infidels leads to heaven?

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

if I kidnap somebody and put them in my basement with no food, its still murder

what if you can't buy food because you're spending all your money protecting your house from your france and british neighbors that never listen to your calls for peace?

Do you think Israel can house every jew in the world?

they're way ahead of you lad Israel is supporting ISIS to drive all te arabs out of the "promised land"

what do you think Israel's odds are if all of europe and the middle east are populated by groups who want to kill them and believe suicide to kill infidels leads to heaven?

I think they'll probably start monetarily supporting european nationalism before it gets to that point, they're not trying to islamize the west what they want is for the people to be divided for all other nations to be crippled and divided. At the end of the day they always have the "samson option" look it up.

LordKX ago

what if you can't buy food because you're spending all your money protecting your house from your france and british neighbors that never listen to your calls for peace?

That's deflection again. You're still holding somebody through force without food. That's murder.

Israel can't even beat Palestine, I thought the Jews were supposed to be smart?

As for the samson option, pretty sure the Jews want a planet left to live on, destroying everything goes against the entire purpose of Israel.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

the allies bombed the supply lines and the soldier got the avalible food, that's war lad.

Israelis are "smart" but incapable as part of operation protective edge the Israel defense force was equipped with diapers because they'd uncontrollably piss themselves when shot at.

as for the samson option the point of it is that if even israel was at serious risk of being destroyed, they would take the earth with them

LordKX ago

Hitler killed millions of Jews. Fact. Even if it was by confining them without food, and food wasn't available because of war. If I shoot somebody in the head, I kill them. You can break it down to that it was the bullet that pierced their skull, and that the bullet was shot by the gun, all I did was pull the trigger etc, the fact is doing something intentionally which results in the death of another is murder.

The point is motive and capacity. Wanting to expand Israel doesn't matter if they are physically incapable. Taking the earth down with them doesn't matter if the goal is to create and safe haven and maintain power. If the Jews are as incompetent and stupid as you make them out to be, I don't think you need to worry about them more than you would a place like North Korea. Instead worry about places like China and soon to be Islamic Europe which are efficient, capable, consolidating power, and have the potentially to actually harm you.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

it wasn't millions it was a few hundred thousand there's no evidence to support even one million, and he did't deprive them of food on purpose the allies bombed their supply lines

LordKX ago

Call it whatever number you want, would you really say that killing 600,000 people is not wrong because its less than 6,000,000? As I believe I said more, arguing about the exact number changes nothing.

And Hitler may not have deprived them of food on purpose, but he confined them on purpose without the ability to feed them, which is no different from intentionally starving them, or in order words murder.