theoldones ago

(licks your ear)

I A M E T E R N A L

Dortex ago

Lucky for me I have nothing better to do with my life.

theoldones ago

which is really fucking sad and you need to stop being a lazy taconigger

Obrez ago

You ain't got room to talk, you live at home with your parents and don't have a job, unless you actually got your shit together and found a job to help support yourself and your family, in that case, congratulations, btw is your dad's back doing better?

Dortex ago

Let me know if you want to join in on the spam fun. I'll send you the latest pasta.

Obrez ago

If you've got a pasta to warn other users about him and his bullshit that links all of the times he's been called out rightfully so and exercised targeted harassment campaigns on innocent users then I would love to have that.

Save me some trouble when I see him up to his bullshit.

Dortex ago

Hey, @Maggotbait88 , @Decidueye , @Obrez , @h8grenade. The fun continues for me. Consider this your early warning.

Obrez ago

Did he start shit again and then "apologize" again?

I'm a bit out of the loop on his bullshit.

Dortex ago

He "apologized" about five days ago. He kept subtly throwing shade, until, just yesterday, he goes for u/fuark_auf with his usual bullshit.

This was probably a ploy to make me forget about him so he can avoid getting spammed. I'm sure he'll go for you again soon.

Obrez ago

Who knows, That was Laura B he posted though so at least TOO is going after actual pedos now; What I was told on 4chan and 8chan over the years is that she's lewd model that never did CP so while it's all legal I know people don't want that content on voat, especially after 8chan's perpetual de-listing, aged is just some autismo who likes 2d girls and vidya, fuark looked to be pushing boundaries with purpose.

All said it's nobody's place to harass the cunts for what legal and non rule breaking content they post. If those faggots actually cared or had numbers they would make their own subs and just ban the self appointed witch hunters. __ OK just looked at fuark's sub, he is the image of degeneracy, I'm all for people not being censored, and he wasn't, and I'm all for people not being unduely censured and frankly I don't think anybody here could hate that PoS unduly.

I've made it a habit most o my life to talk to people I don't understand and I can tell you even among pedos I think they would hate Fuark, he's a creepy rape fetishist that seems to like abusing little girls and possibly interacial cuck porn.

That guy needed an intervention on pornography probably ten years ago.

I'm still not going to praise witch hunters for getting just 1 out of 100 right.

Octocopter ago

You are not going to get an honest discussion out of Dortex, he is clearly a pedo acceptance propagandist. He sees your desire to preserve free speech and your understanding that drawing are truly fake and a mostly non-issue and is seeking to use you to reinforce support for his agenda.

I don't really know you but this post you made shows to me you are not the same as Dortex, I hope you don't fall for his false narratives.

Obrez ago

I'm someone knee deep in a decade of information warfare, what I see is TOO using old tricks to manipulate people into witch hunts on issues he doesn't care about so that he can wrest some power and clout from each affair, in Dortex I see somebody irked by TOO and directly targeted even though I haven't seen anything he's posted as being any more worthy of targeting by TOO than myself and he's hitting back by feeding him his own medicine. Directly refuting lies and getting people to read that is a whole lot more difficult than defaming somebody in the same way they defame others. Incidentally what TOO did is actually a tactic to get CP which has been used with success on 4chan and 8chan in the past.

If I'm being as cynical about dortex's objectives and motivations as I possibly could be I see him harming Voat far less than TOO already has. So as I see it the issue is between a feral cat and a snake, I would take the feral cat any day, especially so after having been bit by the snake.

To be clear, I don't think he's a pedo propagandist, I think TOO has just pissed off too many people too often and has made enemies who want to see him banned, I myself think he(TOO), his tactics and soft headed machinations, is a bigger threat than aged ever was.

If you aren't aware here is a peek into myself and others experiences with TOO: https://voat.co/v/ProtectVoat/3043427

Octocopter ago

I have read that link and I agree with a lot of what you have stated both there and in here. It will change how I interact and view TOO from here on out. His action are not conducive to the message he tries(fakes?) to support, for instance in the fuark affair he pretty much hopped on the bandwagon, but with his repeated spamming and over emotional stance on the matter instead of speaking from a position of good moral standing drove a lot of people to be dismissive and overlook the real issue of content involving a sexualized minor being posted to a porn sub. This muddied the water and I thought less of it then compared to now, only once the truth of the issue was established outside of his postings (read one of the major talking points of your post) did the majority of people that were aware of the issue start speaking out more openly against fuark.

I may have been a bit naive / uninformed about TOO in the broad picture, I imagined him less in a sinister guise and more as an attention and power seeking way. One more ruled by emotional over-reacting with spamming and misguided attacks. Still there is no defense for his spamming the same messages repeatedly and his re-posting others links without even changing the title minutes later(an attempt to reinforce image/standing?). As far as Dortex his repeated and dedicated defense of pedos and explicit content involving minors makes it impossible for me to see him as anything but an actual pedo, even if he has reason to "fight" against TOO it does not explain his attempts to derail and spam what I have posted as well as that of others that attacks pedos.

Another bit of my standing on these issues. I spoke out against the banning of Aged in gaming because of the nature of it, there not being rules ahead of time and making a rule after the fact of the ban being a major breach of free speech and trust in the moderation of the site. Yet I was in the boat that wanted rules for the sub to be amended if that was the public consensus for gaming. I also advocated for Aged to be site wide banned for his previous posting of little girls from those specific "European modeling agencies" despite me being in support of his gaming ban being lifted. Dortex tried here in his reply to you to derail from fuarks posting of the same type of "modeling" and trick you into thinking he supported out outside of being targeted by TOO.

I see odd similarities between TOO and Dortex in these regards. This is at least something for me to be more mindful of.

Octocopter ago

I have pinged you in another post I wrote as you made this before I saw this, I will take time to look at the link you shared and ask you read what I shared on the other post before I reply to this properly.

Dortex ago

You're aware Obrez was another guy TOO crusaded against for basically the same reason as me, right? I just have the free time and Autism to keep reminding everyone what a scumbag TOO is.

Octocopter ago

No one is denying theoldones can spam and overreact, I am pointing out what your "dog in the fight is", which obviously got under your skin here. Yet again you try to re-frame the narrative to defend yourself. Don't tell me you are becoming a one trick pony.

Dortex ago

No one is denying theoldones can spam and overreact,

Would you believe you're the only one of his butt buddies I've gotten to admit that? Now if I could get you guys to admit breaking federal law by begging for child porn is bad, we can be on the same page.

I am pointing out what your "dog in the fight is",

Let's be real for a moment here: You have literally no idea who I am, what I stand for, or what I'm even trying to do. You don't know me. Don't pretend to.

Octocopter ago

Repeating the same sentence over and over does not make it true, if more people accepted your false narrative the votes surrounding all of this would be vastly different.

As a side note I am not a butt buddy with theoldones, I have rarely if ever talked to him outside of the fuark issue where fuark was posting sexualised content involving a real minor which violates both federal law and Voat rules.

Funny how you harp on theoldones for your view of him "violating federal law" but openly defend the posting of a fetish rape video of a child which violated federal law, almost like its clear your intention is the defense of pedos and attempting to embattle those that both speak out against and attack pedos. Much like you have done in the past not just in defense of fuark.

@Obrez Take a look at Dortex comments on this thread and here https://voat.co/v/Voat/3239483/18801445 so that you can make an informed decision about Dortex's intentions with manipulating you.

For your education about myself I am in the boat that thinks drawings are drawings and don't necessarily decide ones standing on real life. I attacked fuark when he posted a video fetishising the beating and rape of a little girl crossing the line into media of real children.

Dortex attacked me and attempted to defend fuark during this and has continued to try and manipulate the narrative around this since then. Often with disingenuous attempts to derail and spam like he is trying use you here.

Dortex ago

Repeating the same sentence over and over does not make it true

Okay I wanna get this over with: Did you click any of the links?

Octocopter ago

I know exactly what you are talking about, but before I get to that I want to remind you of your defense of what fuark posted that lead to him being generally hated on this site. What you felt was both not illegal in its context and was not against the Voat user agreement. Since you are so open and sure of it being fine would you post the same fetish video clip to a specifically porn sub and not think you would get punished for breaking Voat's user agreement much less face legal issues?

Now as to what TOO did was he stupid and possibly malicious in his intent? The answer is most likely yes to the stupid part. As to the malicious part? I have yet to make my mind up on that, but its clear he was misguided and over-emotional about how he went about it and spamming like he always does and you like to do helps neither of your positions.

In the entirety of our recent conversations you have done nothing but spam about TOO and derail all of my posts so far to the point you have barely commented on anything I have posted that does not involve TOO.

How do you think that makes you look to others reading this?

Dortex ago

I know exactly what you are talking about,

Tell me what you think I'm talking about. What is my stance on anything? Why am I spamming the TOO copypasta? Why am I involved in any of this? No bullshit. No hyperbole. You seem remarkably more stable than TOO, so I refuse to get into a screaming match. It's steel men from here on out.

Octocopter ago

Enough derailment and open ended questions you will just keep running around in circles with. I gave you my answers and a direct question you have ignored again, I am just about done with you here. I don't respect you enough to have a proper discussion / argument with you because of your past malicious actions in discussions and your attempts to defend pedos and run derailment for them even when its clear they crossed the line into media involving real children.

@Obrez This is what I am dealing with, does it kinda remind you of TOO's dishonesty atm? It does to me.

@Dortex One last time for posterity, do you think that if you posted what fuark did to a porn sub and left if up you would not face backlash and punishment for it?

Dortex ago

Enough derailment and open ended questions

That was an extremely specific question. What do you think I think?

One last time for posterity, do you think that if you posted what fuark did to a porn sub and left if up you would not face backlash and punishment for it?

Define "punishment". As for backlash, everyone gets that for everything. So sure, I probably would.

Dortex ago

There's almost certainly a calm, reasonable discussion to be had surrounding fuark and his content. Personally not a fan of the gore stuff he posts. The witch hunters are not about to have that discussion, though. Especially not after they go out of their way to a subverse with less than 10 people following it to complain about legal content.

Who knows, That was Laura B he posted though so at least TOO is going after actual pedos now;

He denies being a pedophile and has only posted perfectly wholesome pictures of her, as far as I'm seeing.

Maggotbait88 ago

theoldones ago

i aint taking his bait