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22130185? ago

You put up a book here, a fantastical amount of research. So first of all Thank You for your hard work. You are taking research seriously as opposed to 90% of anons on QRV who are here for social or shill reasons. Lazy bunch, to be honest.

I want to make one comment and then have a few question, if you have the time. In the book series "Law of One", which I have read once, Ra the supposed 6th density being is asked about Jesus and his identity. Ra said that he was a good man, a wanderer, who volunteered to be incarnated on earth for the sole purpose of teaching mankind about LOVE. He was not the Saviour but a teacher and much of it by example. Ra then said that when he ascended, he went to 5th density on one of the Saturn Moons, where I believe the Council of Saturn is located. I am not sure what portion of the council is positive and what portion is negative. Do you know anything about this?

Second question, what do you think of Astrology?

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P.s. > I agree that QRV needs some serious researchers and hard workers, committed to our Cause. That's why I am not over at 8kun, even though I would probaly get a lot more serious interaction over there.

But this place seems a bit negelcted, and Q sent us here, so I am making sure it stacks up, when Normies turn up here out of curiosity looking for information, in a user friendly environment.

The rest of the time I am doing research, or I am on Search and Destroy Missions, hunting Shills. <

22139558? ago

One more question, how would the Society of Saturn be different from the Council of Saturn, if any?

22139589? ago

One is on Earth, and one is in Space. Hence the Space Force. <

Thanks.

22139624? ago

The Council of Saturn is on a Saturn Moon, from my understanding. Yet you say they are evil. The Society of Saturn therefore must be on earth. Yet the Cabal is on earth too. Doesn't make sense. I have heard of the Earth Alliance which is apparently working with aliens and could become Space Force. So many questions to be answered.

22139712? ago

https://forum.antiquatis.org/viewtopic.php?t=176

Council of Saturn

Post by LoneBear » Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:43 pmThe Ra Material, Session 7:

Questioner: Who are the members, and how does the Council function?

Ra: I am Ra. The members of the Council are representatives from the Confederation and from those vibratory levels of your inner planes bearing responsibility for your third density. The names are not important because there are no names. Your mind/body/spirit complexes request names and so, in many cases, the vibratory sound complexes which are consonant with the vibratory distortions of each entity are used. However, the name concept is not part of the Council. If names are requested, we will attempt them. However, not all have chosen names.

In number, the Council that sits in constant session, though varying in its members by means of balancing, which takes place, what you would call irregularly, is nine. That is the Session Council. To back up this Council, there are twenty-four entities which offer their services as requested. These entities faithfully watch and have been called the Guardians.

The Council operates by means of, what you would call, telepathic contact with the oneness or unity of the nine, the distortions blending harmoniously so that the Law of One prevails with ease. When a need for thought is present, the Council retains the distortion-complex of this need, balancing it as described, and then recommends what it considers as appropriate action. This includes: One, the duty of admitting social memory complexes to the Confederation; Two, offering aid to those who are unsure how to aid the social memory complex requesting aid in a way consonant with both the call, the Law, and the number of those calling (that is to say, sometimes the resistance of the call); Three, internal questions in the Council are determined.

These are the prominent duties of the Council. They are, if in any doubt, able to contact the twenty-four who then offer consensus/judgment/thinking to the Council. The Council then may reconsider any question.

Questioner: You mentioned the nine who sit on the Council. Is this “nine” the same nine as those mentioned in this book? (Questioner gestures to Uri.)

Ra: I am Ra. The Council of Nine has been retained in semi-undistorted form by two main sources, that known in your naming, as Mark and that known in your naming as Henry. In one case, the channel became the scribe. In the other, the channel was not the scribe. However, without the aid of the scribe, the energy would not have come to the channel.

Questioner: The names that you spoke of. Were they Mark Probert and Henry Puharich?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

Questioner: I am interested in the application of the Law of One as it pertains to free will and what I would call the advertising done by UFO contact with the planet. That is, the Council has allowed the quarantine to be lifted many times over the past thirty years. This seems to me to be a form of advertising for what we are doing right now, so that more people will be awakened. Am I correct?

Ra: I am Ra. It will take a certain amount of untangling of conceptualization of your mental complex to reform your query into an appropriate response. Please bear with us.

The Council of Saturn has not allowed the breaking of quarantine in the time/space continuum you mentioned. There is a certain amount of landing taking place. Some of these landings are of your peoples. Some are of the entities known to you as the group of Orion.

Secondly, there is permission granted, not to break quarantine by dwelling among you, but to appear in thought form capacity for those who have eyes to see.

Thirdly, you are correct in assuming that permission was granted at the time/space in which your first nuclear device was developed and used for Confederation members to minister unto your peoples in such a way as to cause mystery to occur. This is what you mean by advertising and is correct. The mystery and unknown quality of the occurrences we are allowed to offer have the hoped-for intention of making your peoples aware of infinite possibility. When your peoples grasp infinity, then and only then, can the gateway be opened to the Law of One.

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Post by sky » Sat Oct 22, 2005 6:36 am

The Council of Saturn has not allowed the breaking of quarantine in the time/space continuum you mentioned. There is a certain amount of landing taking place. Some of these landings are of your peoples. Some are of the entities known to you as the group of Orion.

LoneBear...this is the group I was talking about that were allowed to come here to influence us in a negative way...some think they are the angels that were thrown out of the heavens by our Creator...what do YOU think?

LoneBear

Re: council of saturn

Post by LoneBear » Sat Oct 22, 2005 3:31 pm

raytheonsky wrote:
LoneBear...this is the group I was talking about that were allowed to come here to influence us in a negative way...some think they are the angels that were thrown out of the heavens by our Creator...what do YOU think?

The study of fallen angels is an interesting one. Once in human form, they often became the vagabonds, nomadic trouble-makers often having a purpose (like a "gun for hire"), but never having a home here. In the old days, they were referred to in Latin as "Homo Errans", the angel fallen from heaven (higher densities), in human form. It is interesting that the medieval Latin, "homo errans", is translated in modern English as "Wanderer."

Both groups, both positive and negative, have something to offer. You cannot see light, unless there is darkness to contrast it. You cannot find your way in the dark, without light. The positive and negative influences exist in balance; it is only when one upsets that balance that one becomes more noticeable than the other.

In any case, neither side can violate the law of Free Will. It always comes down to your choice. Like that old Native American story posted elsewhere on this board, with the two wolves... one good, and one evil. Which one will survive? The one that you feed.

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Some interesting comments. <

22139818? ago

Also, the Orions definitely are among us and are considered 4th and 5th density, but of Negative orientation. They are also thought to be the Grays in Ufology. The Pleiadians are supposedly of positive orientation and 5D and 6D.

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Yes I understand this to be true.

22139805? ago

It is interesting that the medieval Latin, "homo errans", is translated in modern English as "Wanderer."

This comment is interesting because in LoO somewhere, Ra mentions Jesus as being a "wanderer". Hence the interpretation of Jesus being a teacher of Love, showing mankind the way through words and action, rather than a Savior.

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Jesus indeed was a wanderer, spreading a message of love and peace, and through His sacrifice, our sins (which we cannot avoid > Original Sin) are forgiven, as we are fallible.

It was to pay a Divine debt due to God (one cannot go against God's Laws without punishment, requiring a divine payment). Thus God sent his only Son to pay the debt, as he knew Man could not.

Christ's sacrifice also replaces the ritual of human and animal sacrifice, by replacing flesh with the Symbolic body of Christ (Bread), and Blood of Christ (Wine).

Once One turns to Jesus and His teachings, the whole world opens up, and the Ascension process begins. It's happening to me.

Where do you think I am getting all these gifts from...?

May The Holy Spirit be upon you, always, and in ALL ways. <

ICU Fren 'o-o' < and I hope those on the 'Moons of Saturn' serve Humanity for good, rather than Evil.

Thanks.

Kindest regards,

NMBRFG.

22141894? ago

So, if the Orions and Pleiadians are neg and pos respectively, how would Jesus fit into their existence? Are you applying the concept of original sin to ONLY humans on earth? I have a hard time believing in original sin since babies are born pure. I did once but changed my mind (I went to Bible College and have a degree in Theology). If it is indeed the truth, did these aliens fall under that designation of sin? Both ascended but in each of their case neg and pos. How would they ascend, through what merit/means? Jesus obviously wasn't even born yet when they arrived in their constellations. They are beings with a soul so we can logically assume they are similar to us. Did the Creator intervene in some way on their behalf through some other sacrifice like Jesus? This is where it gets muddy for me. God is Love, how could a God of love consider people sinners and condemn them to punishment through no fault of their own (inborn)? And what about, say Chinese, Egyptians and other Gentiles who were born before Christ's time? Are they going to be punished even though Jesus wasn't born yet in their lifetimes? This becomes the Contradiction for me and Contradictions in reality cannot exist in the Universe. It is impossible because all nature flows in unison without contradiction.

22144279? ago

There is a lot there to consider. I will think it over before replying, so as to do this subject justice.

Remember Jesus was with God at the beginning. It says this in The Bible.

The Earth is a very special place indeed.

22144544? ago

Yes, the earth and earthlings are very special, which is why beings from other planets are surrounding us at this point and ready for an intervention should things get out of control. If the cabal becomes desperate enough they could set off nuclear bombs from their submarines or satellites, if they still have some in their control. The aliens surrounding earth would intervene and neutralize/turn off the nuclear systems. They have done it in the past. I believe the missile that was aimed at AF1 from Hawaii when Trump returned from the Orient was shot down by this kind of intervention by the forces surrounding earth. Draining the Swamp itself is a Divine intervention IMO.

Have a good day Patriot.

22144729? ago

I think you are right about all of that. <

Peace and Love > Unity and Respect.

22139643? ago

I don't have all the answers yet. When God reveals the truth I will know for sure and get back to you.

I can't travel to the moons of Saturn with my body, but I CAN travel there in my mind.

Astral projection and remote viewing are very real.

I can see things that others do not.

I try to see this part of the puzzle, and it is not clear, but I know there is a while other world up there.

Thanks.

22139542? ago

lol..............yeah shills. Morons.

22139595? ago

They keep it entertaining.