Explanation time for those of you who may have not been around voat for a while:
This entire site is astroturfed to hell. It has been under constant infestation of every shill group imaginable in many ways and in every method you can imagine. It's been this way for a very long time. Years. It's not just the obvious trolls like SBBH, who are coordinated, and more nefarious than simply trolls. Points farming, content curation (controlling the front page with many alt accounts, keeping aversive content on the front page at all times, sliding important information to invalidate the purpose of a free speech site)
Every group of bad actors you can think of is here. Almost every poster outside of the primary subs is a shill for some PR firm or another. Controlling digital real estate is big business. People are heavily invested in making sure the first thing you see when you come to visit Voat is "KILL ALL NIGGERS". No really, look at the front page on any given day and I promise you there will be something similar to this. The point is to scare people who might otherwise join the community, which makes the community worthless and with bad reputation. There are similar tactics employed on major chan sites as well.
This effort to create a manufacturered crisis in QRV around cartoon child porn and bomb making posting is not the work of "trolls". It's the work of people who are very heavily invested in driving people away from the community and with the eventual goal of taking over this community. Call them Communist (the ends justify the means) call them deep state, call them intel spooks, probably a mix of all three. But don't call them benign. They are not benign. They are actually attackers and their goal is to destroy the free dissemination of information.
They post and bombard this information all over the sub constantly, and then they say "we need moderation!!!" (Manufacture a problem) then they say with their other hand "the mods are doing nothing! We need curation! Open a moderator position!!! We need a janitor!!" Of course the same people posting the porn will be first in line to be the janitors, with the goal of attaining a super user position on the board, and thus the ability to control and delete posts at will, especially and including any useful information. Once these people attain a super user position, they will no longer need to post porn, so they can say "see? We stopped the porn!" (Provided a 'solution' to the crisis). The cost is you give up your rights to having free flow of information.
This is an effort to lift the curtain on the utter shitstains who inhabit this place. They aren't ever going to stop. They are going to continue to do what they do until something gives in one direction or the other. If they get their porn deleted, they will say "there's no free speech here!!! QRV censored us!! It's compromised!! It's evidence that it is a controlled operation!!" If they get moderation, they will work to gain that super user status. If you ban them, they will simply hop to another virtual machine on a different instance with a different IP and start again. They can keep playing the whack a mole game forever. They will keep doing it forever. They will never stop, because these people are more than trolls, they are BAD ACTORS.
Anyone who works this hard to destroy is motivated by more than the lulz. Voat is a virulent cesspool of these people. Yes there are legitimate users, but they are heavily outnumbered by professional forum trolls with dozens of sock puppet accounts and very very bad intentions.
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Anyone who works this hard to destroy is motivated by more than the lulz. Voat is a virulent cesspool of these people. Yes there are legitimate users, but they are heavily outnumbered by professional forum trolls with dozens of sock puppet accounts and very very bad intentions.
That's the one place you're wrong. Sad they have convinced you of that because you are fairly close to the truth. There are are a small number of people who are coordinating to consensus crack this sub but you can't tell because the dickheads who set up this board intentionally left the gate open for them.
The lack of moderation and incessant trolling of this sub has boiled over to the point where it might warrant admin intervention. I don't believe that is a solution that anyone wants but clearly some things need to change. Go have your say about it.
Hello. I agree with most of what you wrote here, but to be clear, I posted the TATP article because I'm an anarchist turned accelerationist, and it's good info to have. Jihadists have this recipe and are not afraid to use it. By sharing it with patriots I am trying to level the playing field. It's just information, harmless on it's own. If someone chooses to use it irresposibly, that's on them.
Apart from that, you're pretty accurate. Voat has always been attacked by shills in a number of different ways including those you mentioned. SBBH faggots are a cancer, but that is the cost of freedom of speech.
I'm not opposed to removing the porn. But don't lump my "trolling" in with those degenerates, I'd actually like to see the west saved.
Honesty get DV because trolls like you & I know how retarded Qultists are. They can't think for themselves. They actually believe that FastJack isn't comped with that shit he pulled yesterday.
Anarchist is not equal to terrorist. Terrorism requires using violence for political gain. As an anarchist I just opted out of society and skateboarded, smoked a lot of pot.
Now accelerationist, one could make an argument linking to terrorism, but even still the definition requires violence to be accurate.
Why bother calling yourself an anarchist when you mean 'edgy teen with a safety pin somewhere stuck through something on his person or of his person'. How old are, 20?
Anarchism was very popular amonst skate punks when I was a teen and early 20's, yes. I drifted, hitchiked, graffiti'd, attended protests, banged a fuckload of women, and generally just did whatever I wanted while contributing zero to the system. That was a long time ago.
Since then I've learned a lot, and like many people on voat, rejected the status quo. I don't want third worlders in my country. I don't want the deep state and corporate overlords enslaving the common man. I believe in free enterprise and reaping the benefits of your own hard work. I had nothing because I achieved nothing. Now I have stability because I work for it.
I would rather see this corrupt system fixed in a peaceful way, but if not... well there are only 3 boxes and we've already tried 2 of them.
You have to understand the spirit of the internet. We were born in the darkness, and have our own culture. It's random, spectacular, mischievous, and brilliant. It's HWNDU and pepe, IOTBW, and the happy merchant.
Of course the same people posting the porn will be first in line to be the janitors, with the goal of attaining a super user position on the board, and thus the ability to control and delete posts at will, especially and including any useful information
yes on all counts. srayzie is the main culprit who has been egging on this mess. crensch came to whiteknight her and in doing so pissed off a lot of people who didn't care to that point.
I am not letting you fucking spook faggots derail the message with manufactured divide and conquer drama. Fuck off back to whatever child raping circle of hell you crawled out of.
@srayzie you really really lose any hope for anybody ever taking you seriously. you got outted and will never live this down until you beg for forgiveness
Any third party who may be reading this: take note. This poster's correspondence is a method of subversion employed by the bad actors mentioned above.
The tactic employed by this professional forum spook is to sink the conversation into baseless accusations and the subsequent defense of those accusations. This is exactly the type of person the initial comment is talking about.
I’m not trying to take users from QRV. Not everyone is a bad actor. I care about this movement. No matter what I do, some people will bitch about it. If I didn’t give a shit, then I would be blamed for wanting it to fail.
You have to consider the notion that S is just a nosey female concerned that one of the pillars of her beloved Q movement is sinking into glow nigger faggotry, It looks like 4 chan in here.
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18751386? ago
Explanation time for those of you who may have not been around voat for a while:
This entire site is astroturfed to hell. It has been under constant infestation of every shill group imaginable in many ways and in every method you can imagine. It's been this way for a very long time. Years. It's not just the obvious trolls like SBBH, who are coordinated, and more nefarious than simply trolls. Points farming, content curation (controlling the front page with many alt accounts, keeping aversive content on the front page at all times, sliding important information to invalidate the purpose of a free speech site)
Every group of bad actors you can think of is here. Almost every poster outside of the primary subs is a shill for some PR firm or another. Controlling digital real estate is big business. People are heavily invested in making sure the first thing you see when you come to visit Voat is "KILL ALL NIGGERS". No really, look at the front page on any given day and I promise you there will be something similar to this. The point is to scare people who might otherwise join the community, which makes the community worthless and with bad reputation. There are similar tactics employed on major chan sites as well.
This effort to create a manufacturered crisis in QRV around cartoon child porn and bomb making posting is not the work of "trolls". It's the work of people who are very heavily invested in driving people away from the community and with the eventual goal of taking over this community. Call them Communist (the ends justify the means) call them deep state, call them intel spooks, probably a mix of all three. But don't call them benign. They are not benign. They are actually attackers and their goal is to destroy the free dissemination of information.
They post and bombard this information all over the sub constantly, and then they say "we need moderation!!!" (Manufacture a problem) then they say with their other hand "the mods are doing nothing! We need curation! Open a moderator position!!! We need a janitor!!" Of course the same people posting the porn will be first in line to be the janitors, with the goal of attaining a super user position on the board, and thus the ability to control and delete posts at will, especially and including any useful information. Once these people attain a super user position, they will no longer need to post porn, so they can say "see? We stopped the porn!" (Provided a 'solution' to the crisis). The cost is you give up your rights to having free flow of information.
This is an effort to lift the curtain on the utter shitstains who inhabit this place. They aren't ever going to stop. They are going to continue to do what they do until something gives in one direction or the other. If they get their porn deleted, they will say "there's no free speech here!!! QRV censored us!! It's compromised!! It's evidence that it is a controlled operation!!" If they get moderation, they will work to gain that super user status. If you ban them, they will simply hop to another virtual machine on a different instance with a different IP and start again. They can keep playing the whack a mole game forever. They will keep doing it forever. They will never stop, because these people are more than trolls, they are BAD ACTORS.
Anyone who works this hard to destroy is motivated by more than the lulz. Voat is a virulent cesspool of these people. Yes there are legitimate users, but they are heavily outnumbered by professional forum trolls with dozens of sock puppet accounts and very very bad intentions.
18761253? ago
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18753815? ago
@SarMegahhikkitha they are in trouble? @MadWorld @RiverWind @o0shad0o @freshmeat
18752535? ago
Which is exactly why free speech is a shit idea. Remove the trolls, remove the porn. Fine with me.
18752807? ago
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18752943? ago
Pah, free speech contains within itself the seeds of its own demise. Kick the pedos off or put up with them ruining everything. What a great idea...
18752497? ago
Conspiracy!
18755609? ago
@freshmeat @Empress they finally went too far @SarMegahhikkitha @shadow332 @Grifter42
18771943? ago
@empress how do you support @crensch for being such a cyberstalking cunt. you know he's trying to be a powermod and he is bullshit
18752495? ago
That's the one place you're wrong. Sad they have convinced you of that because you are fairly close to the truth. There are are a small number of people who are coordinating to consensus crack this sub but you can't tell because the dickheads who set up this board intentionally left the gate open for them.
18757107? ago
why would they do that
18757557? ago
Why do they pay shills to attack forums? Think it stops there?
18757648? ago
no idea. kindly ELI5 to me?
18757885? ago
The lack of moderation and incessant trolling of this sub has boiled over to the point where it might warrant admin intervention. I don't believe that is a solution that anyone wants but clearly some things need to change. Go have your say about it.
18752359? ago
Hello. I agree with most of what you wrote here, but to be clear, I posted the TATP article because I'm an anarchist turned accelerationist, and it's good info to have. Jihadists have this recipe and are not afraid to use it. By sharing it with patriots I am trying to level the playing field. It's just information, harmless on it's own. If someone chooses to use it irresposibly, that's on them.
Apart from that, you're pretty accurate. Voat has always been attacked by shills in a number of different ways including those you mentioned. SBBH faggots are a cancer, but that is the cost of freedom of speech.
I'm not opposed to removing the porn. But don't lump my "trolling" in with those degenerates, I'd actually like to see the west saved.
18757087? ago
Honesty get DV because trolls like you & I know how retarded Qultists are. They can't think for themselves. They actually believe that FastJack isn't comped with that shit he pulled yesterday.
18752815? ago
Anarchist=Terrorist
18752870? ago
Anarchist is not equal to terrorist. Terrorism requires using violence for political gain. As an anarchist I just opted out of society and skateboarded, smoked a lot of pot.
Now accelerationist, one could make an argument linking to terrorism, but even still the definition requires violence to be accurate.
18753000? ago
Why bother calling yourself an anarchist when you mean 'edgy teen with a safety pin somewhere stuck through something on his person or of his person'. How old are, 20?
18753018? ago
Anarchism was very popular amonst skate punks when I was a teen and early 20's, yes. I drifted, hitchiked, graffiti'd, attended protests, banged a fuckload of women, and generally just did whatever I wanted while contributing zero to the system. That was a long time ago.
Since then I've learned a lot, and like many people on voat, rejected the status quo. I don't want third worlders in my country. I don't want the deep state and corporate overlords enslaving the common man. I believe in free enterprise and reaping the benefits of your own hard work. I had nothing because I achieved nothing. Now I have stability because I work for it.
I would rather see this corrupt system fixed in a peaceful way, but if not... well there are only 3 boxes and we've already tried 2 of them.
18756437? ago
Yeah how long?
18759692? ago
You have to understand the spirit of the internet. We were born in the darkness, and have our own culture. It's random, spectacular, mischievous, and brilliant. It's HWNDU and pepe, IOTBW, and the happy merchant.
And it's growing every day.
18768358? ago
You sound like a faggot. Go outside
18768396? ago
I am outside. The blackfly season is starting
18768547? ago
Put your fucking phone down
18752642? ago
Proliferating bomb making instructions isn't helping make the world a better place.
18752666? ago
Read Tarrants manifesto.
18752691? ago
I did, and I stand by my point. Bombing people doesn't make the world a better place.
18752638? ago
Proliferating bomb making instructions isn't helpful to your objective.
18752124? ago
High Ranking #1 anon chimes in just in time. Pretty much covered it all here so there is nothing for high Ranking #2 to contribute.
18752797? ago
Who can tell with this faggoty randomized user name
18753077? ago
Post speaks for itself
18751662? ago
wow... @srayzie @crensch
this sounds exactly like you faggots!
18751826? ago
Right on queue here comes the bad actors.
18751890? ago
correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't @srayzie a mod of both v/pizzagate and the BO and Main Mod of v/greatawakening ? Isn't @crensch a SBBH lifer and a close ally of @srayzie ?
18771970? ago
yes on all counts. srayzie is the main culprit who has been egging on this mess. crensch came to whiteknight her and in doing so pissed off a lot of people who didn't care to that point.
18757130? ago
the only useful information you need to know is that Q is a psy-op @srayzie @crensch
18751935? ago
I am not letting you fucking spook faggots derail the message with manufactured divide and conquer drama. Fuck off back to whatever child raping circle of hell you crawled out of.
18752505? ago
😂👆🏻
18752032? ago
so... your answer is YES
it's OK, I knew already.
18757148? ago
@srayzie you really really lose any hope for anybody ever taking you seriously. you got outted and will never live this down until you beg for forgiveness
18752085? ago
Any third party who may be reading this: take note. This poster's correspondence is a method of subversion employed by the bad actors mentioned above.
The tactic employed by this professional forum spook is to sink the conversation into baseless accusations and the subsequent defense of those accusations. This is exactly the type of person the initial comment is talking about.
18752113? ago
then why has @srayzie been carrying on about the loli porn in QRV and demanding Mods step in?
why should she care about QRV degradation when it only funnels users to her sub?
18757213? ago
spread this far and wide. Srayzie is despised and seen for the dramafaggot that she is
https://voat.co/v/QRV/3232768/18752608/
https://voat.co/v/QRV/3232768/18752982/
18752544? ago
I’m not trying to take users from QRV. Not everyone is a bad actor. I care about this movement. No matter what I do, some people will bitch about it. If I didn’t give a shit, then I would be blamed for wanting it to fail.
18752565? ago
You're blamed for not playing enough motown.
18752142? ago
You have to consider the notion that S is just a nosey female concerned that one of the pillars of her beloved Q movement is sinking into glow nigger faggotry, It looks like 4 chan in here.