Id say fewer than one-third of folks here have a tolerance for the grotesque porn that has been posted lately. There are a lot of good and decent people here who just want justice and an earth-shattering change in the way America goes forward. The old model is no longer working and the elite need to be removed from power. It's simple as that.
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@Puttitout The mods are obviously compromised and seem to like the sub being filled with porn spam. They only care about participating when their power is threatened. Remove them, keep it anon, and give someone a janitor position.
Compromised by doing as the community demanded and only removing illicit content? Compromised by letting us decide for our selves what to pay attention to? Compromised by not protecting us from fag spam?
We demanded they not use the delete button. They don’t. This is my favorite online community and the only one I participate in because I know I have an unfiltered view of every thing smashed into one spot.
But let’s declare them compromised for running the community the way the community asked it be run...
disagree.. too many trolls and queers who love posting dicks.... all patriots should just go to THEAWAKENING and THEGREATAWAKEING...qrv is compromised by muslims nazis..all of which are anti-trump and anti-american
Then I'll stay here, I don't mind trying to see some other views as well. If I wanted to block people I'd be a libtard. Don't promote censorship for the love of god.
Agreed: this isn't a game that can be won. If rules are added then shills will just start posting Q related garbage and scripture. Our best bet is to behave like emotionally mature adults and ignore the shills and their naughty pictures.
who were mods the before a month ago? what happend to them?
the current ones don't seem to be doing much.
i often go to new and down voat shit. normally i have to get the eye bleach out afterwards. i should vote more often though, i can pass a week or month just lurking
Putt is tired of the bullshit this sub generates. All he was asking was the mods to step in and get active.
Mods have been MIA and the first move they make is post screencaps. Totally dick and jew-ey move. They could have handled it better. Both are taking strong positions. They both could have sorted it out better.
But FastJack's first move as a mod was just try to shift frustration onto Putt. Not cool at all.
No, he gave it to the community because it’s our decision not his. He did what a moderator should, let the community debate and make their own informed decisions on the situation and kept us apprised of dangers to our community. As a result we outed the culprit behind this manufactured crisis. Had the post not been made we would have likely lost our community to the very person who tries endlessly to destroy it.
Had the post not been made we would have likely lost our community to the very person who tries endlessly to destroy it.
Putt is trying to destroy this community?? lmao. You really have no idea wtf is happening, do you? It's a handful of SBBH vs GA mods, as well as random shills and shitposters who are trolling this sub. You should pay more attention before you make asinine claims like this. Well done, @FastJack. You pulled a fast one convincing NPCs that Putt is the bad guy.
On what basis are you making this claim? Has Putt ever had a history of doing that? Support it with evidence that he has done that, please, and stop repeating rumors that are unsubstantiated.
There are no good guys or bad guys in this. It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation from Putt's POV.
As I said earlier, FastJack pulled a fast one. I see through it for what it was: a power move in an effort to shift ire that's been directed at him for not modding onto Putt. Jew move.
Nope. I never said that. I'm pointing out that you FastJack is the snake in all this and was trying to make Putt look bad. You were the one defending FJ, remember??
Now it's all out in the open and you're seeing FJ overplay his hand.
Nothing the mod here has done has lead me to see this grand conspiracy that every one has intoxicated them selves with. I see a dutiful steward laying safeguards, I was planning my backup migration before that announcement so it aligns with what I was already doing my self and therefore congruent.
I see a bunch of people trying to save the day from a problem they imagined I have which I never had in the first place trying to sell me solutions that are abhorrent to my world view.
You’re attempting to convince me of secondary outcomes to a primary predicate that I’ve not bought into. I do not think we need active moderation as so many of you spewing anger here do. Since I agree fully with the hands off approach here, every thing there after falls flat when argued to me.
It’s not “his own community” it’s a shot across the bow of puttitout letting him know that this community won’t be strong armed into capitulation as we have other options.
Besides this community isn’t this board, it’s the people who are spread across the many modalities. You can dismantle any given platform and you’ll fail to touch the actual community.
Only allowed to talk to one person now? Can’t have more than one conversation any more? I guess we need to take my anonymity away so I can be banned for engaging people on debate.
What exactly have your mods been doing for you while the spamming, porn, shilling and trolling have been going on? Please be specific and reference some examples for me, prior to the screencaps from today.
They have let me decide what to pay attention to and not. Allowed me to learn from the spammers and shills how they work to disrupt communities, they were bold enough to allow the natural outcome to form and not interfere. This I value above any action they may have decided to take.
I'm going to leave you with some links that you might want to take a look at in depth to help you form a better opinion of the mods of QRV and how "powerful" their inaction is...
Do you think that it shows QRV mods care about "our" community?
Why was it that a mod from GreatAwakening had to directly ask Q for help because QRV anons were not getting replies from any QRV mods? https://voat.co/v/GreatAwakening/3217150/
Did the QRV mods ever post any open responses to her attempt at helping combat shilling and trolling on his sub? (Answer: no) But here is a GreatAwakening mod responding to a post where "our mods" were pinged to but never responded to: https://voat.co/v/QRV/3216674/18586669/
As I said, I've been watching them carefully and following all the threads. I know names and comment histories of most of the players involved. This situation is not as cut and dry as you would think and you're naive to believe otherwise.
No one deserves a response if all they are doing is demanding censorship and behavioral control of the users.
Putt deserved a response. Outside of that, Q and BO. I wouldn’t expect a response if I harassed them about things that hurt my eyes, I have eyelids after all.
No one deserves a response if all they are doing is demanding censorship and behavioral control of the users.
Agreed.
However. Does the Q community at large not deserve a response? Something along the lines stating "the mods believe and support free speech, blah blah blah use your discernment blah blah"
Stupid as it may be, it's effective in:
signaling to the community that mods are paying attention
signaling to Putt that mods are putting low effort into the sub
signaling to trolls and shills that sub doesn't have MIA mods.
win/win/win for all involved until the next shitpost storm ramps up.
The Q community at large hasn’t demanded a response. They can upvoat something if they want the mods to answer to something. So far it’s just a bunch of namefags throwing fits that we don’t do what they want. If they can get a post here to the top with 300 votes then I bet you the mods will respond.
300 is the current consensus mark. 150 or so is casual consensus. Slow news days that’s 30-80 but any which way, consensus here is 300 upvoats. Get that and the mods ignore it, then I’ll agree they have some explaining. Until then, it’s noise making namefags creating drama to make them selves feel important.
300 is the current consensus mark. 150 or so is casual consensus. Slow news days that’s 30-80 but any which way, consensus here is 300 upvoats
This is new info for me. Can you point to a thread that discusses this?
I'm curious, what about threads where there is much commentary, but the UV hasn't even hit casual consensus, according to this definition. Such as this post, for example.
This moderator is the first and only that I can say I’ve actually respected.
We disagree about FastJack. I'd have preferred just one post going "hey Qfags, I'm your new mod. Respect the free speech, you niggers, and kindly fuck off unless you see CP or other illegal shit."
There's politicking at play. I'm not buying the "FastJack is on our side" hype that's coming out of this. This sub has been a PITA for a long time. If I were Putt, I'd be sick to death of it being such a problem child.
Watch the stats on the posts over the course of a month. Those are the high water marks. The fluctuate with the amplitude of panic in the msm and frequency of Q posts. Next time Q posts, check the upvoat tally on the thread that gets spawned.
As for disagreeing, that’s fine, I don’t care who because the seat of power isn’t that chair. It’s Q and BO. If this place was compromised then it would be called out as such and appropriate action would be taken.
I’m sure he is sick of the drama that gets manufactured around our use of this platform, he can squash it and silence us and will undermine all faith in this platform or he can live with the reality of what he has worked so hard to create and the consequences of what it really means.
The users here are immune to the bullshit. The value content makes it to the front page. The rest gets flushed down the toilet of the new page. When it matters people participate. The spans of time between, the shills betray their talking points and people with not value to their existence derive microscopic amounts of dopamine from the rush of being that guy pathetic enough to post toilet pictures all day.
Why did we have to find out about the QRV mod change from a mod of GreatAwakening?
Because nothing changed. They continued to remain hands off as we expect of the mods.
Why was it that a mod from GreatAwakening had to directly ask Q for help because QRV anons were not getting replies from any QRV mods?
Because they didn’t get their way and tried using their cult of personality as a means of demanding attention that they aren’t owed by virtue of a title?
And in return why was a GreatAwakening mod relentlessly trolled and spammed as a result?
Because we don’t respect namefags trying to tell us what to do.
We don’t want her help or need her help. She is inserting her self where she isn’t needed, wanted, or welcome.
Hands off to what extent? To the extent the board goes to shit and Putt gets dragged into this mess? Nice results.
as we expect of the mods.
Define "we". Define "expectation." Define "mods" and what their role in a subverse should be, ideally. Perhaps clarify that to the users of the sub since there's an uproar over what roles should be, what is to be expected of mods, and who "we" refers to (one mod, two mods, all three mods?)
I have no clue what "as we expect of the mods" means and neither do you.
Because they didn’t get their way and tried using their cult of personality as a means of demanding attention that they aren’t owed by virtue of a title?
Get their way in what respect? They were asked to help out when mods of QRV ignored their own users. They tried to help QRV's users. Looks to me more like they understand some fundamentals of modding.
Because we don’t respect namefags trying to tell us what to do.
Nobody was trying to tell anybody what to do. GA mods got pinged when QRV mods were silent and ignored users.
They tried to white night that shit. We don’t need saving. We threw a fit when theawakening deleted any thing at all and the mods heard us loud and have since left the delete button for illicit content only. This is what every one demanded and it’s what we got and it’s bloody glorious.
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nope. Not into deleting or censoring. Don't agree with srayzie and her methods. She's brought a shitload of this down on herself and is not innocent.
But I also don't agree with being completely ignored by mods. At the very least, post a reminder about free speech and start a convo for newbs who don't get it. Show that you're even around and paying attention, FFS.
The only thing I've taken away from this whole fiasco is that one of the mods, FastJack, has a pulse.
I guess the amplitude feels proportional to the degree of panic. I expected this flood and have been enjoying the show.
Every one is so worried about newbies. They are few and far between. And frankly if they can’t handle a dose of reality, they aren’t ready to actually see what’s been happening around them.
He doesn't care, @puttitout is publicly threatening you. He will find a way to force you off the platform. I thank the Q crowd for at least showing that he is not the free speech supporter he pretended to be.
No, he gave it to the community because it’s our decision not his
Our decision to do what? Mods have been getting pinged re: porn, trolls and shills. In the screens FJ basically said that complaints are irrelevant. Do you really think they are on "our" side? lol
As a result we outed the culprit behind this manufactured crisis.
The culprit is not Putt, trust me on this. If you think it is, then Fast Jack pulled a fast one on you.
You don't find it strange that the very first move he does is post screencaps? There has been no word, no announcement from him at all. He has been pinged constantly with no reply. Now suddenly...oh look, guys! Putt is bad! Dick move.
I don't see how the mods have served this community in any way. They look like jackasses. Putt basically said to them, clean up your bedroom or get the fuck outta my house if I have to clean it up. He is in the right. His house, his rules.
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18739629? ago
Id say fewer than one-third of folks here have a tolerance for the grotesque porn that has been posted lately. There are a lot of good and decent people here who just want justice and an earth-shattering change in the way America goes forward. The old model is no longer working and the elite need to be removed from power. It's simple as that.
18741253? ago
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All mods added about 1 month ago, no old mods.
Putts sends message talking about unmoderated sub, they talk shit and post screens.
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18746300? ago
@Puttitout The mods are obviously compromised and seem to like the sub being filled with porn spam. They only care about participating when their power is threatened. Remove them, keep it anon, and give someone a janitor position.
18771716? ago
HAHAHA! You stupid motherfuckers are going to become non-anon just because "trust the plan."
@FastJack acted like a total douchebag. If your stupid, kike mod didn't do that, putt would have left all of you alone.
18754934? ago
Look how quickly you retards vote this cunt up. He’s taking your power from you and you’re just high giving this monkey criminal.
18754925? ago
Shut. The. Fuck. Up. Go away.
18757118? ago
Spoken like a true adult.
Leave this stuff for the grown-ups, kiddo.
18751877? ago
As soon as you appoint a "janitor" you get groupthink hivemind.
18747690? ago
Compromised by doing as the community demanded and only removing illicit content? Compromised by letting us decide for our selves what to pay attention to? Compromised by not protecting us from fag spam?
We demanded they not use the delete button. They don’t. This is my favorite online community and the only one I participate in because I know I have an unfiltered view of every thing smashed into one spot.
But let’s declare them compromised for running the community the way the community asked it be run...
18752829? ago
disagree.. too many trolls and queers who love posting dicks.... all patriots should just go to THEAWAKENING and THEGREATAWAKEING...qrv is compromised by muslims nazis..all of which are anti-trump and anti-american
18776959? ago
Then I'll stay here, I don't mind trying to see some other views as well. If I wanted to block people I'd be a libtard. Don't promote censorship for the love of god.
18777659? ago
i promote the censorship of liberals, nazis, racists, and porn posters
18754954? ago
Shut the fuck up.
18756959? ago
so via proxy, you are one of the muslim queers who love posting dicks .
18749320? ago
Agreed: this isn't a game that can be won. If rules are added then shills will just start posting Q related garbage and scripture. Our best bet is to behave like emotionally mature adults and ignore the shills and their naughty pictures.
18751098? ago
Emotionally mature adults? Have you read any of the content here? QRV needs to migrate to Reddit as far as I can tell.
18761444? ago
"migrate" is Globalist diction 🙁
18754944? ago
So fuck off. Why do you care?
18751157? ago
Why are shills so desperate for QVR members to flee?
18751889? ago
Still waiting on arrests from Q.
18752926? ago
So you want arrests without investigation or indictment?
Don't you think that's super-retarded?
18758931? ago
It doesn't take years for indictments. Fast track that shit now!!!!!
18746037? ago
who were mods the before a month ago? what happend to them?
the current ones don't seem to be doing much.
i often go to new and down voat shit. normally i have to get the eye bleach out afterwards. i should vote more often though, i can pass a week or month just lurking
18746512? ago
just read the deleted submissions and comments. it was PenSHITLORD, not much was ever deleted.
modertion in moderation isn't an issue for me, especially when we can all see the deleted stuff afterwards anyway.
18742926? ago
They talk shit or They stand up for their community?
I’m with the mods on this. Putt is flexing on us and it’s pathetic.
18751143? ago
Putt is tired of the bullshit this sub generates. All he was asking was the mods to step in and get active.
Mods have been MIA and the first move they make is post screencaps. Totally dick and jew-ey move. They could have handled it better. Both are taking strong positions. They both could have sorted it out better.
But FastJack's first move as a mod was just try to shift frustration onto Putt. Not cool at all.
I predict that this isn't going to end well.
18751556? ago
No, he gave it to the community because it’s our decision not his. He did what a moderator should, let the community debate and make their own informed decisions on the situation and kept us apprised of dangers to our community. As a result we outed the culprit behind this manufactured crisis. Had the post not been made we would have likely lost our community to the very person who tries endlessly to destroy it.
18751862? ago
Putt is trying to destroy this community?? lmao. You really have no idea wtf is happening, do you? It's a handful of SBBH vs GA mods, as well as random shills and shitposters who are trolling this sub. You should pay more attention before you make asinine claims like this. Well done, @FastJack. You pulled a fast one convincing NPCs that Putt is the bad guy.
@puttitout
18751936? ago
The user who requested the transfer of this sub is the one posting part of the porn he used to justify his request for the sub.
18752011? ago
I know. That's C_Corax who requested the transfer.
Now what was your point, or did you even have one?
18752029? ago
Had these messages from Putt not gone public we wouldn’t have outed the con job and Putt would have likely taken action against our board.
18752115? ago
On what basis are you making this claim? Has Putt ever had a history of doing that? Support it with evidence that he has done that, please, and stop repeating rumors that are unsubstantiated.
There are no good guys or bad guys in this. It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation from Putt's POV.
As I said earlier, FastJack pulled a fast one. I see through it for what it was: a power move in an effort to shift ire that's been directed at him for not modding onto Putt. Jew move.
18752153? ago
I’m not blaming Putt for the con job, are you daft?
18770957? ago
So you still think it was Putt who's at fault here?
Check out how your mod FastJack is trying to make off with QRV to poal.
Pls tell me again how he's not a shill glownigger: https://voat.co/v/QRV/3235269/
18771116? ago
You still struggling to comprehend the multiple statements that I don’t think Putt had any thing to do with this? You’re fighting a straw man.
18771148? ago
Nope. I never said that. I'm pointing out that you FastJack is the snake in all this and was trying to make Putt look bad. You were the one defending FJ, remember??
Now it's all out in the open and you're seeing FJ overplay his hand.
18771212? ago
Nothing the mod here has done has lead me to see this grand conspiracy that every one has intoxicated them selves with. I see a dutiful steward laying safeguards, I was planning my backup migration before that announcement so it aligns with what I was already doing my self and therefore congruent.
I see a bunch of people trying to save the day from a problem they imagined I have which I never had in the first place trying to sell me solutions that are abhorrent to my world view.
18771282? ago
And FastJack has that final solution: gotcha. That's a classic glownigger tactic.
The solution could easily have been to be an active mod. Not pull a Q-endorsed community out from Voat to set up his own community.
Too bad you don't see how shilly it is.
18772229? ago
You’re attempting to convince me of secondary outcomes to a primary predicate that I’ve not bought into. I do not think we need active moderation as so many of you spewing anger here do. Since I agree fully with the hands off approach here, every thing there after falls flat when argued to me.
It’s not “his own community” it’s a shot across the bow of puttitout letting him know that this community won’t be strong armed into capitulation as we have other options.
Besides this community isn’t this board, it’s the people who are spread across the many modalities. You can dismantle any given platform and you’ll fail to touch the actual community.
18772991? ago
sure seems shilly in here tonight
18773165? ago
Because I am arguing the same point in more than one place? Try harder.
18775858? ago
That's a shill, tactic, bro.
18775917? ago
Only allowed to talk to one person now? Can’t have more than one conversation any more? I guess we need to take my anonymity away so I can be banned for engaging people on debate.
18775958? ago
Bro we're catching guys like you in both threads doing this. Ya'll think you're clever...
NOT!!!
18776089? ago
Oooo catching users using the site hahaha what are you doctor detective Goodman
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18776173? ago
SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL
18776164? ago
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18776157? ago
SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL
18776148? ago
SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL
18776141? ago
SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLSHILL
18752446? ago
Putt is no idiot.
https://voat.co/v/QRV/3233816/18749352/ Give the owner and builder of this site some credit, will you.
18752453? ago
He just tried bullying our mods into capitulation. Gonna take some time before I can.
18752468? ago
What exactly have your mods been doing for you while the spamming, porn, shilling and trolling have been going on? Please be specific and reference some examples for me, prior to the screencaps from today.
18752481? ago
They have let me decide what to pay attention to and not. Allowed me to learn from the spammers and shills how they work to disrupt communities, they were bold enough to allow the natural outcome to form and not interfere. This I value above any action they may have decided to take.
18752608? ago
Fair enough.
I'm going to leave you with some links that you might want to take a look at in depth to help you form a better opinion of the mods of QRV and how "powerful" their inaction is...
Why did we have to find out about the QRV mod change from a mod of GreatAwakening? https://voat.co/v/GreatAwakening/3217150/
Do you think that it shows QRV mods care about "our" community?
Why was it that a mod from GreatAwakening had to directly ask Q for help because QRV anons were not getting replies from any QRV mods? https://voat.co/v/GreatAwakening/3217150/
And in return why was a GreatAwakening mod relentlessly trolled and spammed as a result? https://voat.co/v/GreatAwakening/3227845/
Did the QRV mods ever post any open responses to her attempt at helping combat shilling and trolling on his sub? (Answer: no) But here is a GreatAwakening mod responding to a post where "our mods" were pinged to but never responded to: https://voat.co/v/QRV/3216674/18586669/
As I said, I've been watching them carefully and following all the threads. I know names and comment histories of most of the players involved. This situation is not as cut and dry as you would think and you're naive to believe otherwise.
18752681? ago
Why does she deserve a response from our mods? She just creates drama and distractions when we are minding our own business.
18752835? ago
So who does deserve a response from the mods, then? Is it up to them to ignore whomsoever they choose at their discretion?
18752991? ago
No one deserves a response if all they are doing is demanding censorship and behavioral control of the users.
Putt deserved a response. Outside of that, Q and BO. I wouldn’t expect a response if I harassed them about things that hurt my eyes, I have eyelids after all.
18753062? ago
Agreed.
However. Does the Q community at large not deserve a response? Something along the lines stating "the mods believe and support free speech, blah blah blah use your discernment blah blah"
Stupid as it may be, it's effective in:
win/win/win for all involved until the next shitpost storm ramps up.
18753076? ago
The Q community at large hasn’t demanded a response. They can upvoat something if they want the mods to answer to something. So far it’s just a bunch of namefags throwing fits that we don’t do what they want. If they can get a post here to the top with 300 votes then I bet you the mods will respond.
300 is the current consensus mark. 150 or so is casual consensus. Slow news days that’s 30-80 but any which way, consensus here is 300 upvoats. Get that and the mods ignore it, then I’ll agree they have some explaining. Until then, it’s noise making namefags creating drama to make them selves feel important.
18753446? ago
This is new info for me. Can you point to a thread that discusses this?
I'm curious, what about threads where there is much commentary, but the UV hasn't even hit casual consensus, according to this definition. Such as this post, for example.
We disagree about FastJack. I'd have preferred just one post going "hey Qfags, I'm your new mod. Respect the free speech, you niggers, and kindly fuck off unless you see CP or other illegal shit."
There's politicking at play. I'm not buying the "FastJack is on our side" hype that's coming out of this. This sub has been a PITA for a long time. If I were Putt, I'd be sick to death of it being such a problem child.
18753483? ago
Watch the stats on the posts over the course of a month. Those are the high water marks. The fluctuate with the amplitude of panic in the msm and frequency of Q posts. Next time Q posts, check the upvoat tally on the thread that gets spawned.
As for disagreeing, that’s fine, I don’t care who because the seat of power isn’t that chair. It’s Q and BO. If this place was compromised then it would be called out as such and appropriate action would be taken.
I’m sure he is sick of the drama that gets manufactured around our use of this platform, he can squash it and silence us and will undermine all faith in this platform or he can live with the reality of what he has worked so hard to create and the consequences of what it really means.
The users here are immune to the bullshit. The value content makes it to the front page. The rest gets flushed down the toilet of the new page. When it matters people participate. The spans of time between, the shills betray their talking points and people with not value to their existence derive microscopic amounts of dopamine from the rush of being that guy pathetic enough to post toilet pictures all day.
18752639? ago
Because nothing changed. They continued to remain hands off as we expect of the mods.
Because they didn’t get their way and tried using their cult of personality as a means of demanding attention that they aren’t owed by virtue of a title?
Because we don’t respect namefags trying to tell us what to do.
We don’t want her help or need her help. She is inserting her self where she isn’t needed, wanted, or welcome.
18752708? ago
Hands off to what extent? To the extent the board goes to shit and Putt gets dragged into this mess? Nice results.
Define "we". Define "expectation." Define "mods" and what their role in a subverse should be, ideally. Perhaps clarify that to the users of the sub since there's an uproar over what roles should be, what is to be expected of mods, and who "we" refers to (one mod, two mods, all three mods?)
I have no clue what "as we expect of the mods" means and neither do you.
Get their way in what respect? They were asked to help out when mods of QRV ignored their own users. They tried to help QRV's users. Looks to me more like they understand some fundamentals of modding.
Nobody was trying to tell anybody what to do. GA mods got pinged when QRV mods were silent and ignored users.
That much has been blatantly clear.
18752982? ago
They tried to white night that shit. We don’t need saving. We threw a fit when theawakening deleted any thing at all and the mods heard us loud and have since left the delete button for illicit content only. This is what every one demanded and it’s what we got and it’s bloody glorious.
Can’t handle the heat? Go to Srayzie safe space.
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18753001? ago
nope. Not into deleting or censoring. Don't agree with srayzie and her methods. She's brought a shitload of this down on herself and is not innocent.
But I also don't agree with being completely ignored by mods. At the very least, post a reminder about free speech and start a convo for newbs who don't get it. Show that you're even around and paying attention, FFS.
The only thing I've taken away from this whole fiasco is that one of the mods, FastJack, has a pulse.
18753012? ago
I guess the amplitude feels proportional to the degree of panic. I expected this flood and have been enjoying the show.
Every one is so worried about newbies. They are few and far between. And frankly if they can’t handle a dose of reality, they aren’t ready to actually see what’s been happening around them.
18760152? ago
@puttitout pls see comment above, and pls check out parent
18772941? ago
He doesn't care, @puttitout is publicly threatening you. He will find a way to force you off the platform. I thank the Q crowd for at least showing that he is not the free speech supporter he pretended to be.
18787530? ago
That's not the case at all. Nice try to shift blame and fear monger, though.
18779015? ago
Sure @FastJack shill. We believe you.
PROBLEM>>>>PROBLEM >>>>SOLUTION PROBLEM>>>>PROBLEM >>>>SOLUTION PROBLEM>>>>PROBLEM >>>>SOLUTION
Nobody falls for glownigger tactics.
18752579? ago
Shit you people are stupid
18752179? ago
I'm not daft, you retard. But if you're going to make an argument, at least be able to reference names so I know who you were referring to.
18752352? ago
https://voat.co/v/QRV/3233816
18752203? ago
Lol names
18752225? ago
Names, indeed. Hypocrite much?
18751784? ago
Our decision to do what? Mods have been getting pinged re: porn, trolls and shills. In the screens FJ basically said that complaints are irrelevant. Do you really think they are on "our" side? lol
The culprit is not Putt, trust me on this. If you think it is, then Fast Jack pulled a fast one on you.
You don't find it strange that the very first move he does is post screencaps? There has been no word, no announcement from him at all. He has been pinged constantly with no reply. Now suddenly...oh look, guys! Putt is bad! Dick move.
I don't see how the mods have served this community in any way. They look like jackasses. Putt basically said to them, clean up your bedroom or get the fuck outta my house if I have to clean it up. He is in the right. His house, his rules.
Mod the sub or GTFO.