Id say fewer than one-third of folks here have a tolerance for the grotesque porn that has been posted lately. There are a lot of good and decent people here who just want justice and an earth-shattering change in the way America goes forward. The old model is no longer working and the elite need to be removed from power. It's simple as that.
Putt is tired of the bullshit this sub generates. All he was asking was the mods to step in and get active.
Mods have been MIA and the first move they make is post screencaps. Totally dick and jew-ey move. They could have handled it better. Both are taking strong positions. They both could have sorted it out better.
But FastJack's first move as a mod was just try to shift frustration onto Putt. Not cool at all.
No, he gave it to the community because it’s our decision not his. He did what a moderator should, let the community debate and make their own informed decisions on the situation and kept us apprised of dangers to our community. As a result we outed the culprit behind this manufactured crisis. Had the post not been made we would have likely lost our community to the very person who tries endlessly to destroy it.
Had the post not been made we would have likely lost our community to the very person who tries endlessly to destroy it.
Putt is trying to destroy this community?? lmao. You really have no idea wtf is happening, do you? It's a handful of SBBH vs GA mods, as well as random shills and shitposters who are trolling this sub. You should pay more attention before you make asinine claims like this. Well done, @FastJack. You pulled a fast one convincing NPCs that Putt is the bad guy.
On what basis are you making this claim? Has Putt ever had a history of doing that? Support it with evidence that he has done that, please, and stop repeating rumors that are unsubstantiated.
There are no good guys or bad guys in this. It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation from Putt's POV.
As I said earlier, FastJack pulled a fast one. I see through it for what it was: a power move in an effort to shift ire that's been directed at him for not modding onto Putt. Jew move.
What exactly have your mods been doing for you while the spamming, porn, shilling and trolling have been going on? Please be specific and reference some examples for me, prior to the screencaps from today.
They have let me decide what to pay attention to and not. Allowed me to learn from the spammers and shills how they work to disrupt communities, they were bold enough to allow the natural outcome to form and not interfere. This I value above any action they may have decided to take.
I'm going to leave you with some links that you might want to take a look at in depth to help you form a better opinion of the mods of QRV and how "powerful" their inaction is...
Do you think that it shows QRV mods care about "our" community?
Why was it that a mod from GreatAwakening had to directly ask Q for help because QRV anons were not getting replies from any QRV mods? https://voat.co/v/GreatAwakening/3217150/
Did the QRV mods ever post any open responses to her attempt at helping combat shilling and trolling on his sub? (Answer: no) But here is a GreatAwakening mod responding to a post where "our mods" were pinged to but never responded to: https://voat.co/v/QRV/3216674/18586669/
As I said, I've been watching them carefully and following all the threads. I know names and comment histories of most of the players involved. This situation is not as cut and dry as you would think and you're naive to believe otherwise.
No one deserves a response if all they are doing is demanding censorship and behavioral control of the users.
Putt deserved a response. Outside of that, Q and BO. I wouldn’t expect a response if I harassed them about things that hurt my eyes, I have eyelids after all.
No one deserves a response if all they are doing is demanding censorship and behavioral control of the users.
Agreed.
However. Does the Q community at large not deserve a response? Something along the lines stating "the mods believe and support free speech, blah blah blah use your discernment blah blah"
Stupid as it may be, it's effective in:
signaling to the community that mods are paying attention
signaling to Putt that mods are putting low effort into the sub
signaling to trolls and shills that sub doesn't have MIA mods.
win/win/win for all involved until the next shitpost storm ramps up.
The Q community at large hasn’t demanded a response. They can upvoat something if they want the mods to answer to something. So far it’s just a bunch of namefags throwing fits that we don’t do what they want. If they can get a post here to the top with 300 votes then I bet you the mods will respond.
300 is the current consensus mark. 150 or so is casual consensus. Slow news days that’s 30-80 but any which way, consensus here is 300 upvoats. Get that and the mods ignore it, then I’ll agree they have some explaining. Until then, it’s noise making namefags creating drama to make them selves feel important.
300 is the current consensus mark. 150 or so is casual consensus. Slow news days that’s 30-80 but any which way, consensus here is 300 upvoats
This is new info for me. Can you point to a thread that discusses this?
I'm curious, what about threads where there is much commentary, but the UV hasn't even hit casual consensus, according to this definition. Such as this post, for example.
This moderator is the first and only that I can say I’ve actually respected.
We disagree about FastJack. I'd have preferred just one post going "hey Qfags, I'm your new mod. Respect the free speech, you niggers, and kindly fuck off unless you see CP or other illegal shit."
There's politicking at play. I'm not buying the "FastJack is on our side" hype that's coming out of this. This sub has been a PITA for a long time. If I were Putt, I'd be sick to death of it being such a problem child.
Watch the stats on the posts over the course of a month. Those are the high water marks. The fluctuate with the amplitude of panic in the msm and frequency of Q posts. Next time Q posts, check the upvoat tally on the thread that gets spawned.
As for disagreeing, that’s fine, I don’t care who because the seat of power isn’t that chair. It’s Q and BO. If this place was compromised then it would be called out as such and appropriate action would be taken.
I’m sure he is sick of the drama that gets manufactured around our use of this platform, he can squash it and silence us and will undermine all faith in this platform or he can live with the reality of what he has worked so hard to create and the consequences of what it really means.
The users here are immune to the bullshit. The value content makes it to the front page. The rest gets flushed down the toilet of the new page. When it matters people participate. The spans of time between, the shills betray their talking points and people with not value to their existence derive microscopic amounts of dopamine from the rush of being that guy pathetic enough to post toilet pictures all day.
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18739629? ago
Id say fewer than one-third of folks here have a tolerance for the grotesque porn that has been posted lately. There are a lot of good and decent people here who just want justice and an earth-shattering change in the way America goes forward. The old model is no longer working and the elite need to be removed from power. It's simple as that.
18741253? ago
@badg0y1m last comment - 7 months ago (13 CCP)
@FastJack last comment/submission - Never (0 CCP)
@msdia80_dll last comment - 1 month ago (10 CCP)
All mods added about 1 month ago, no old mods.
Putts sends message talking about unmoderated sub, they talk shit and post screens.
18742926? ago
They talk shit or They stand up for their community?
I’m with the mods on this. Putt is flexing on us and it’s pathetic.
18751143? ago
Putt is tired of the bullshit this sub generates. All he was asking was the mods to step in and get active.
Mods have been MIA and the first move they make is post screencaps. Totally dick and jew-ey move. They could have handled it better. Both are taking strong positions. They both could have sorted it out better.
But FastJack's first move as a mod was just try to shift frustration onto Putt. Not cool at all.
I predict that this isn't going to end well.
18751556? ago
No, he gave it to the community because it’s our decision not his. He did what a moderator should, let the community debate and make their own informed decisions on the situation and kept us apprised of dangers to our community. As a result we outed the culprit behind this manufactured crisis. Had the post not been made we would have likely lost our community to the very person who tries endlessly to destroy it.
18751862? ago
Putt is trying to destroy this community?? lmao. You really have no idea wtf is happening, do you? It's a handful of SBBH vs GA mods, as well as random shills and shitposters who are trolling this sub. You should pay more attention before you make asinine claims like this. Well done, @FastJack. You pulled a fast one convincing NPCs that Putt is the bad guy.
@puttitout
18751936? ago
The user who requested the transfer of this sub is the one posting part of the porn he used to justify his request for the sub.
18752011? ago
I know. That's C_Corax who requested the transfer.
Now what was your point, or did you even have one?
18752029? ago
Had these messages from Putt not gone public we wouldn’t have outed the con job and Putt would have likely taken action against our board.
18752115? ago
On what basis are you making this claim? Has Putt ever had a history of doing that? Support it with evidence that he has done that, please, and stop repeating rumors that are unsubstantiated.
There are no good guys or bad guys in this. It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation from Putt's POV.
As I said earlier, FastJack pulled a fast one. I see through it for what it was: a power move in an effort to shift ire that's been directed at him for not modding onto Putt. Jew move.
18752153? ago
I’m not blaming Putt for the con job, are you daft?
18752446? ago
Putt is no idiot.
https://voat.co/v/QRV/3233816/18749352/ Give the owner and builder of this site some credit, will you.
18752453? ago
He just tried bullying our mods into capitulation. Gonna take some time before I can.
18752468? ago
What exactly have your mods been doing for you while the spamming, porn, shilling and trolling have been going on? Please be specific and reference some examples for me, prior to the screencaps from today.
18752481? ago
They have let me decide what to pay attention to and not. Allowed me to learn from the spammers and shills how they work to disrupt communities, they were bold enough to allow the natural outcome to form and not interfere. This I value above any action they may have decided to take.
18752608? ago
Fair enough.
I'm going to leave you with some links that you might want to take a look at in depth to help you form a better opinion of the mods of QRV and how "powerful" their inaction is...
Why did we have to find out about the QRV mod change from a mod of GreatAwakening? https://voat.co/v/GreatAwakening/3217150/
Do you think that it shows QRV mods care about "our" community?
Why was it that a mod from GreatAwakening had to directly ask Q for help because QRV anons were not getting replies from any QRV mods? https://voat.co/v/GreatAwakening/3217150/
And in return why was a GreatAwakening mod relentlessly trolled and spammed as a result? https://voat.co/v/GreatAwakening/3227845/
Did the QRV mods ever post any open responses to her attempt at helping combat shilling and trolling on his sub? (Answer: no) But here is a GreatAwakening mod responding to a post where "our mods" were pinged to but never responded to: https://voat.co/v/QRV/3216674/18586669/
As I said, I've been watching them carefully and following all the threads. I know names and comment histories of most of the players involved. This situation is not as cut and dry as you would think and you're naive to believe otherwise.
18752681? ago
Why does she deserve a response from our mods? She just creates drama and distractions when we are minding our own business.
18752835? ago
So who does deserve a response from the mods, then? Is it up to them to ignore whomsoever they choose at their discretion?
18752991? ago
No one deserves a response if all they are doing is demanding censorship and behavioral control of the users.
Putt deserved a response. Outside of that, Q and BO. I wouldn’t expect a response if I harassed them about things that hurt my eyes, I have eyelids after all.
18753062? ago
Agreed.
However. Does the Q community at large not deserve a response? Something along the lines stating "the mods believe and support free speech, blah blah blah use your discernment blah blah"
Stupid as it may be, it's effective in:
win/win/win for all involved until the next shitpost storm ramps up.
18753076? ago
The Q community at large hasn’t demanded a response. They can upvoat something if they want the mods to answer to something. So far it’s just a bunch of namefags throwing fits that we don’t do what they want. If they can get a post here to the top with 300 votes then I bet you the mods will respond.
300 is the current consensus mark. 150 or so is casual consensus. Slow news days that’s 30-80 but any which way, consensus here is 300 upvoats. Get that and the mods ignore it, then I’ll agree they have some explaining. Until then, it’s noise making namefags creating drama to make them selves feel important.
18753446? ago
This is new info for me. Can you point to a thread that discusses this?
I'm curious, what about threads where there is much commentary, but the UV hasn't even hit casual consensus, according to this definition. Such as this post, for example.
We disagree about FastJack. I'd have preferred just one post going "hey Qfags, I'm your new mod. Respect the free speech, you niggers, and kindly fuck off unless you see CP or other illegal shit."
There's politicking at play. I'm not buying the "FastJack is on our side" hype that's coming out of this. This sub has been a PITA for a long time. If I were Putt, I'd be sick to death of it being such a problem child.
18753483? ago
Watch the stats on the posts over the course of a month. Those are the high water marks. The fluctuate with the amplitude of panic in the msm and frequency of Q posts. Next time Q posts, check the upvoat tally on the thread that gets spawned.
As for disagreeing, that’s fine, I don’t care who because the seat of power isn’t that chair. It’s Q and BO. If this place was compromised then it would be called out as such and appropriate action would be taken.
I’m sure he is sick of the drama that gets manufactured around our use of this platform, he can squash it and silence us and will undermine all faith in this platform or he can live with the reality of what he has worked so hard to create and the consequences of what it really means.
The users here are immune to the bullshit. The value content makes it to the front page. The rest gets flushed down the toilet of the new page. When it matters people participate. The spans of time between, the shills betray their talking points and people with not value to their existence derive microscopic amounts of dopamine from the rush of being that guy pathetic enough to post toilet pictures all day.