heygeorge ago

Avoidance noted!

Well you're the one trying to make a sub piggybacking on what he's trying to do.

I was mulling the idea of v/BigRule while Crensch was still on board with you at PV, and conversed with you directly and publicly about the concept. So I am left unsure now whether you are fooling yourself or looking to lead on passerby.

heygeorge ago

everyone used to the idea so that eventually our defaults can behave like Reddit where comments get censored the second they're made.

I have not a whit of interest in that.

I really like Voat. I don’t want it to go away, and it seems putts has found someone interested in financially backing (at least for the time being) this Wild West.

Also: You said really specifically before ‘you guys’, now it’s ‘the people’. That has a less conspiratorial turn to it.

heygeorge ago

It's still bullshit.

Nonsense. Well... yes. It’s also “surreal absurdist anti-humour” at times, another description that has graced multiple posts, the sidebar, and the top of the browser tab.

And the direction crensch wants to take major subs is pointing at what you guys do.

It’s really not my responsibility if @Crensch desires to make a silly argument.

I mean I always thought most of you wanted this place to be reddit with you guys in charge and here you all are proving me right.

You’ve lost me here. What are you even on about? Who are you trying to lump me in with?

heygeorge ago

[–] kevdude 0 points (+1|-1) 11.7 hours ago

can you guys stop deleting comments in sbbh?

Probably not, unless I demodded everyone.

In contrast to arguments that SBBH is magically held to a different standard than other subverses, I posit: The primary purpose of SBBH is for amusement.

SBBH is primarily and ultimately a send-up of the greater Voat community, and a place to:

Post whatever is on your mind. WDGAF” or “Take a break from the serious side of Voat.

It’s part of the intrinsic fabric of v/SoapboxBanhammer to flagrantly abuse the moderator position, and has been from its inception. @Mick didn’t title it v/freepoliticaldisc, after all.

The mods of SBBH typically temper this farcical abuse of power by lifting bans quickly and frequently inviting members of all walks of Voat to become mods if they express enough interest.

If anyone is so stupid or disingenuous not to grasp the above valid distinction, then I find little value in attempting to convince them otherwise. Surely their brains would have to be composed of porridge, or worse.

HollaKost ago

HollaKost ago

Why can't you?

See the dick pic you sent? Here's why

http://magaimg.net/img/861g.jpg

JackHoff ago

Or what?

heygeorge ago

the whole point is to create a public facing subverse where comment deletions will be tolerated.

This is some of the point. The other part is to bait you into contradiction/hypocrisy. And further down the slope we slip! Although I am flirting with my own implementation of a moderated comment forum, so there’s that.

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ExpertShitposter ago

I don't think hes stealing content, but his sub should be blocked and ignored based on his mod practices. Its actually funnny that he has a dissenter sub.

Mumbleberry ago

Kind of an oxymoron, that.

thelma ago

I ask to steel. If I wish to steel.

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virge ago

So let me see if I get your logic: You deleting comments in a public facing subverse, not authoritarian. Us asking you to stop, authoritarian.

The logic I see is a bunch of people who don't have any control over how Voat works, but who obviously think they should, are only asking me to stop and doing a boring and monotonous public service of trying to guide people to the right place when they appear lost. Like I said, win/win.

So I should flair this as resolved and we all can move on and Voat doesn't take another step towards becoming a censored platform?

I think so. I don't really see any problem.

WORF_MOTORBOATS_TROI ago

I don't think voat has enough traffic for there to be a good reason to have people reposting content to different subs, but there's a handful of users who have been doing it for a long time.

Mumbleberry ago

Not to the extent that this turd has been.

WORF_MOTORBOATS_TROI ago

It seems like they do it in waves. Earlier this year i used to see reposts to the bloodandhonor or whatever sub all the time in /new/ but not as much lately.

virge ago

Like I said, if you have some authoritarian need to control what other people do and it just means less effort for me I don't see the issue.

virge ago

Ignoring comments sounds like a win/win because I don't need to exert any effort, fine by me if that's all it takes for you overly-sensitive types.

King_Leopold_II ago

But you're not ignoring comments. You delete them.

virge ago

But you're not ignoring comments. You delete them.

Demonstrably no longer the case since I just said I'd happily stop above.

If you guys having some authoritarian streak where you think you have to control how other people do things that don't effect you guys in any way can be satisfied simply by me ignoring them from now on I cannot possibly see how I lose here.

King_Leopold_II ago

Yes I read that wrong, my bad.

virge ago

Or.. I can just leave it as is and ignore all comment and you'll feel satisfied? Just making sure I understand what you're saying.

Mumbleberry ago

Very telling.

virge ago

Then ignore them. Why does it bother you so much if people want to have a conversation in those threads?

So imagine if you had a notebook and were writing notes and every person on the street walked up, took your notebook, and scribbled whatever they wanted before handing it back to you.

Then go into subverse settings and raise the minimum ccp to downvote. Points won't accrue and you can delete whatever the fuck you want because the conversation no longer shows up in v/all so it is out of the public domain.

This is not tenable because there are people subscribed who wish to consume the content. It's nothing more than a continuation of my "what you missed on Voat today" threads in a significantly easier way. People who browse /v/all can block the subverse if it offends them, I see no further action necessary on my part at this time and am beholden to no one as to what I do and do not remove in the pursuit of my own documentation.

virge ago

Maybe they want to come talk to you.

They can PM me or make it clear they're asking me a question. I'm posting goddamn links, kevdude, I'm not posting my own opinion nor soliciting feedback from the community. If they want to talk to me in the thread I'm linking, they're welcome to reply to it and ping me.

Maybe they want to put their input on the repost.

Good! That's literally the entire point of me linking directly to the comments section of the post in the first place. I'm trying to get them to put their feedback there, to bring further dialogue to the now fully necro'd submission. This is why I will continue to remove the comments from people who talk to me in an area none of those people already having a discussion will never see.

What is it hurting?

I'm not going to engage them there because I don't generally hold a strong opinion about the subject I'm linking to. If I do, it's already in that thread where it belongs and they can reply to me there for engaging me.

Keeping comments in the sub unrelated to the conversation I am trying to highlight is counter-intuitive and you're suggesting I shouldn't bother at all which is the goddamn point because I created it as a private archive and thus don't want people to engage me in it in the first place but sure won't limit them from insulting me as long as their content isn't clearly meant for the discussion in the original thread.

C'mon kedude, seriously. You can't be serious here. Anyone can block the thread and move on. It's breaking no rules. It's breaking no laws. It's for me and anyone who wants to insult me can do so all day long for all I care as long as they keep their on-topic comments in the right place.

PuttitoutIsGone ago

@KevDude is gonna get his daddy then you gonna be in trouble!

virge ago

So you want a subverse that shows up publicly to generate scp and ccp for yourself.

I don't care about make-believe internet faerie points. Are you saying I can turn off me personally gaining CCP somehow while still letting people who want to view the content vote on it?

But at the same time you want to be able to delete any dissenting opinions or criticism in those conversations.

I am only deleting it when someone is saying something to the OP.. of the thread I'm linking. As in, commenting on the content thinking I wrote it instead of someone else. Maybe you're not understanding this properly. If I linked to a thread you wrote, and someone came into my submission and commented to me instead of you, what purpose would that hold? Wouldn't YOU want them to post in yours, where they were have a higher odd of you actually seeing it, if they were talking to you?

Seriously. You're acting like I'm removing everything people are saying, if that's the case then there wouldn't be a dozen people over there calling me names right now like there demonstrably is. You're being obtuse.

PuttitoutIsGone ago

Play your Builder Badge card....

Mumbleberry ago

Only works when playing go fish.

Mumbleberry ago

3274 comments deleted by you. What are you trying to hide?

virge ago

3274 comments deleted by you. What are you trying to hide?

Generally speaking, I try to hide from people who have too low of an IQ for the conversation to have any merit.

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PuttitoutIsGone ago

This isn't true. You're always popping up on my threads and like I've already told you, I'm borderline retarded.

virge ago

It is about precedent. Comment deletion starts a slippery slope.

No, it's that I can't either make the subverse private or turn comments off, and it exists for a specific purpose so the only recourse I have when people don't use it for that purpose is to remove the comment. This is a case where reality trumps your optics argument, and that's in a world where I care about optics in the first place.

Who is anyone to tell me I can't have a private archive subverse? Just block it, that's what it exists for. This cannot possibly be worth this much mental energy for anyone involved.

Your submissions show up in v/all which makes them visible to Voat at large. Therefore the discussion is public domain. If you wish to censor comments take your subverse out of the public domain by raising the minimum CCP needed to downvote.

So? They're linking to posts hours old with usually less than 10 total views. The entire reason I am doing this is to revitalize conversation in those threads, and I hold no authority there so there is nothing stopping someone from clicking the blue text and then commenting in the public area. My subverse is my own private archive. If someone wants to comment in there they are more than welcome to do so, as is evident by the comments that exist already. It's only when someone posts something "on-topic" in the wrong place that I will remove it. Period.

C_Corax ago

I think it's a nigger.

Mumbleberry ago

Acts like one.

C_Corax ago

Mumbleberry ago

3374 comments memory holed. wonder what the nigger is trying to hide?

WhiteRonin ago

She hides all her rants. The times she pings people. And the multiple copy paste that she will use to fight.

The only comments left behind are mostly about guns.

I don’t think it’s point manipulation unless it’s a massive down vote. It’s more along the lines of getting rid of her rants.

Be careful of the way she writes. It’s condescending and manipulative. She will also divert, deflect and ignore any pertinent topic and then spin it like she can’t be bothered by you.

I keep an eye on her time to time. Do the same and I’m almost positive you will see what I’m saying.

I keep trying to pinpoint her alt. I did think it was @kevdude for a while because his writing style is similar. But I got thinking that Kev rarely goes bonkers like she does. So, my apologies for now Kev about that. I was testing you the other day and thus the real reason why I brought up excel sheets with you.

There is another theory that it’s not a dude but a girl. Virge is saying that put it out to distract. She back peddles a lot and then diverts with her argument points so instead of being a fib it could be the truth.

Now, think. Who can write as elegant as this person that is psychotic. Which women have gotten into fights?

Then again it could be a dude ...

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PuttitoutIsGone ago

When I read @virges posts I hear them in a female voice. The gun stuff could be a larp. A beard.

WhiteRonin ago

I’m not a gun person so I can’t confirm. Would be interesting to find out if that is a larp or not!

C_Corax ago

Well.. There are other crawlers on Voat than searchvoat ;)

I haven't really looked at it much yet because it's Friday and I'd like to chill and have a beer instead.

PuttitoutIsGone ago

YEAH! CUT THE SHIT!

virge ago

@virge please stop deleting comments. If a user is violating subverse rules then ban them. But kindly cut the shit with comment deletions.

Why? The subverse was created as a private research archive. It specifically says in the side bar that comments about the linked threads belong in the linked threads. I do not care what the person says in the research subverse, but if they post it in the research subverse when it was a comment of the linked submission then it's going to be removed. I see no reason why this isn't acceptable behavior, if someone is offended by this they can just block the subverse and move on I won't adjust my archive for the preferences of a bunch of children on the Internet - so why are you demanding I do so?

That is reddit tier garbage.

Nothing is stopping anyone from commenting in the thread itself, and that is the entire point of what I am doing in the first place for whoever is similarly curious in the threads I am linking and wishes to subscribe. If you are not the audience, block the sub. I cannot possibly see how these rules are anyone elses business and how this could offend you.

Help me see your point of view here because I don't see what rule I've broken, law I've broken, or any reason why I can't have a private sub to document things.

thelma ago

private research archive

What's that ? Huh? Ooops, I'm not supposed to see this thread. Top secret, got it. Mums the word.

Fuck, my cat read it ... now what?

PuttitoutIsGone ago

What part of cut the shit do you not understand?

Mumbleberry ago

You stopped me from commenting, you ban happy reddit fag.

Mumbleberry ago

Put that on an excell spreadsheet, virgil.

virge ago

  • Block the subverse if it offends you
  • Nothing is stopping you from being an immature cunt in the threads linked
  • My subverse exists purely as a private research archive, your opinion is irrelevant

You are welcome to cry in your safe space, snowflake, but I don't need to justify anything to you so just vote with your downvote button and move on with your miserable life.

MrPim ago

Whats it been? A day or so since I told you you were going to do all the work for me? This popcorn is delicious.

Mumbleberry ago

Show me please.

MrPim ago

Theres not much there of value really. Except her admission that she deletes her content to manipulate DVs. Which doesnt work of course. And then lying about the entire thing.

Mumbleberry ago

"Avoid DV's" might be more accurate.

MrPim ago

I used that phrase too. But in that thread they specifically said that they did it to recover those points. So manipulation really is more accurate.

And of course xer comments are deleted so we cant review what all was said. I knew then I should have archived that shit.

Mumbleberry ago

Triggered censor kike faggot speak. Not surprised at all.