ksjdfkas878345 ago

really sguevar, this more like finger pointing. and is typical of /v/protectvoat to this

I have and will provide tons of info on how to curb manip... I was going to "spill the beans" but a part of me said fuck it.

idk putt knows that I offered he may read it, but whatever.

and no, not just in lame downvoats upvoats

-dial_indicator

sguevar ago

really sguevar, this more like finger pointing

in what regard? You mean my post or what is going on surrounding PV right now?

ksjdfkas878345 ago

See sguevar... what you wrote was well written. I can tell you took some time.

But really what this only does is facilitate creating a hive mind mentality, you can just point at a person and say "SEE" when really the accused person is only stating matter of different opinion

PV is an organized brigade verse. I've said this hundreds of times, no exageration.

I'm just answering your question...

There was other topics you hit on that were correct. some meh.... I offered my advice to many time on deaf ears, only now I'm starting to get heard.

Look, if you want, I will go thru and draft a post countering/agreeing with your information, when time permits.... ONLY because you were vouched to me. But it really it be nothing that I haven't said before many of times.... Thinking, I just should and just save it.

Its not hard to my posts, it really only took 30 minutes to make. I need shine her a bit, but im just going to keep adding to it.

think for yourself

-dial_indicator

https://youtu.be/-xaUfpxyz1A

sguevar ago

Look, if you want, I will go thru and draft a post countering/agreeing with your information, when time permits.... ONLY because you were vouched to me. But it really it be nothing that I haven't said before many of times.... Thinking, I just should and just save it.

Ping me when you do.

sinclair ago

Block user feature seems to work in Waterfox. What happens is the users's post is initially collapsed. You can manually expand it. It does not start expanded. Doesn't remove the user, which for me is fine. This would be for individuals you find indigestible most of the time, or would rather not hear from.

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NotHereForPizza ago

gaining full control

You guys all know Crensch and kevdude are the default go-to guys when sub owners step down here, right? That stands out to none of you?

dindu-nufffin ago

I see it all the time

-dial

WordCorrector ago

The best defense to keep your thoughts from being usurped is awareness of some of the content in this post.

ifuckdolphinseverday ago

Forum Sliding: Basically hiding the posting of a critical nature with other unrelated content that usually leads to misinformation. Another way to put it is divert attention from the post subject to Forum Sliding by flooding the forum. This implies the use of several accounts, meaning alts that are used for upvote brigading on those posts that will be used to slide their target and downvote brigading their target.

Consensus cracking: This also implies the use of multiple accounts one that post some information that is made to look legitimate but with little evidence that proves it and nearly at the same time another post is made that argues against the initial with more substance. Basically the users will be given the two sides of the story, one very generic and the one that the trolls and shills are interested in pushing so then the users are manipulated by thinking they had all the facts on the matter. Hence they are herd to the post that seems to have more substance.

Turning a news group into a gossip corner: This is used a lot in Forum Sliding. The irrelevant content posted targets the group by flooding their queue and creates an inability for the users of said group to become productive within it. Basically everything turns into uncertainty and hence we get to see a lot of “someone told me, anonymous sources” taking over the narrative.

Collecting information on Forum Members: It is used to ask specific questions in order to determine the tastes, principles and ideas defended by certain users. This helps to run statistical models to study a certain population and hence find a way to manipulate it.

Identifying Violent Forum Members: Using “preaching to the choir techniques” these users can be identified by posting things that will incite them to react or express their views in a violent way. This can be used to then target those users and track them down or also to even attack the credibility of the Forum in a whole by applying guilty by association.

Gaining full control: One of the main objectives is not only controlling the narratives through alts but also gain a moderator/owner position within the forum’s different channels/subverses in order to kill any dissenting position.

So you mean just like crenches hit piece and all the drama over @fatsadcunt's nudes was used to consolidate power and create division? Made to look legitimate but with little evidence while turning a news group into a gossip center while collecting information on forum members they can censor?

I'm still banned from v/GA

dindu-nufffin ago

dude Kevdud still just flat out lies about me, he seriously just makes shit up

-dial_indicator

sguevar ago

I'm still banned from v/GA

You and me both.

ifuckdolphinseverday ago

https://www.voat.co/v/ProtectVoat/3237854/

Added background here, let me know if there is anything else i should be including.

sguevar ago

I saw the post you linked before. I actually upvoted it.

But at this point Crensch has shown his unwillingness to change his approach and so the users that back him up. So the main point of the post is to create awareness amongst the users so they can make their own determinations.

ifuckdolphinseverday ago

I should have specified i updated it to include the following;

http://archive.li/HYr0C

Hes manipulated users by gaslighting the loli issue to portray his actions in the right light. They were not known for thinking for themselves before they got here and are highly susceptible to leader worship. I agree, context needs to be provided to the user base enmasse so they can reach their own conclusions.