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think- ago

/takesdeepbreath

@thewebofslime, are you out of your minds?

You are going around now, claiming the v/pizzagate lead mod hacked your website, and launched a DDOS attack?

I can't believe it.

I read your v/thewebofslime submission, the convo you had with @Vindicator on your v/GreatAwakening submission, and parts of your convo with @Vindicator on your v/pizzagate submission.

I meant to take a break for one or two days, and am just here to check my PMs, so I will say this only here in this one comment:

If you think that someone hacked your computer, and launched a DDOS attack, then present evidence. I mean, actual evidence, with proof that a specific person did it.

Going around, and smearing someone as a potential hacker without any proof is not ok.

You can be pissed off by @Vindicator because he required edits for your recent v/pizzagate post, you don't have to like him, whatever. But smearing him with this accusation is definitely a no-go, both in general, and also regarding his position as a v/pizzagate mod. It smells of a shill attack. (And please note I am trying to stay ladylike regarding my wording.)

You see, I helped you because you did a couple of good posts in the past - these (here, here, and here) come to mind.

I wasn't able to understand why you were not able to adhere to the v/pizzagate submission rules, although you're obviously smart. I don't know who you are, and what you are up to, but I gave you the benefit of the doubt.

I will tell you what I have told numerous other users who tried the 'muh v/pizzagate is compromised' narrative:

1) v/pizzagate is not compromised. I was a mod for ten months, and nobody offered me any money, ever, or tried to influence the way I modded.

@Vindicator asked me whether I would like to become a mod, although he knew that I am non-partisan, not an ardent Trump supporter, and not a Q follower. He could easily have asked someone else. The same applies to @kevdude, when he sent me a mod invitation some time later, when Millennial_Falcon was demodded, and they were looking for a new M mod.

@Vindicator and me might have had disagreements recently, but he was a good friend. I know him very well. He is 100% legit, and he has worked his ass off the past two+ years for this sub.

Trying to portray him as a compromised operative, and a hacker bangs head on table is mean and malicious.

2) The rules of v/pizzagate were made by the community. Not the mods.

@kevdude wrote them at the time, discussing them with the community, due to the flooding of the sub with cp and shill posts. We had regular rules discussions within the community, and they were adjusted accordingly; the recent major change was the introduction of Rule 6, since the majority of users felt they wanted to have some info before clicking on a link.

If you don't like v/pizzagate and its rules, you are free to post whereever you want. The rules are transparent, they were known by you before you came to the sub, it is your decision whether you want to post there or not, or create your own pizzagate research sub. If you don't like a specific rule, or would like to propose an additional rule, you can always start a discussion on v/pizzagatemods, and invite the community over for a discussion.

@Vindicator is not the villain mod you are trying to paint him as. He actually gave one of your posts the 'Share!' flair recently, and he didn't even flair the post, although it didn't adhere to Rule 2 - you posted pngs and jpgs, but without any links.

A Non Nonsense Summary of Pizzagate

That's what he wrote in his mod comment:

Great summary thread, Web. I'll give it the Share flair. :-)

Here's another recent post submitted by you which he obviously appreciated, see his comments on the thread:

Edible Schoolyard Project. $167,000 Solstice Fundraiser. James Alefantis. Jim Comey's Personal Email. A Serious Woman.

And again, he was lenient, and didn't flair the post, although some of the jpgs would have required links. If you had submitted the post in my modding shift, I would have flaired it.

On a side note, that's a further proof that your recent allegations that your posts were targeted by the mods are definitely not true. Quite to the contrary, @Vindicator was very lenient.

I asked you whether you might want to crosspost your recent v/thewebofslime post to v/pizzagate. I do that frequently (asking for crossposts) when I see good posts on v/pizzagatewhatever, or v/news.

I already found it disingeneous that you wrote that I had asked you to crosspost your post to v/pizzagate, when the v/pizzagate post looked totally different from the original post with the three chan links. But I tried to help you editing it, since I think it was a good post, and I disagree with @Vindicator here; I can see how you took the three chan links as a starting point, and then added content confirming the research in the chan links. Imo the post is totally different from the 'links in links in links' 'Sarah' shill posts we had; your post made sense and is coherent imo, especially since it was meant to be a Pizzagate summary post (see headline).

Now I feel like a total idiot, since I supported you, and now get associated with someone who obviously has malicious intentions by trying to smear the v/pizzagate mods.

Thank you so much.

@shewhomustbeobeyed @Crensch

Vindicator ago

Thanks for chiming in, think- :-).

Did you see this joker is now saying that I am Q and Q is British Intelligence and supposedly hacked his site after he made his submission? Because...Q wants to censor that monstronsity I guess. Try parsing the logic of THAT one.

Remember when SoberSecondThought claimed Q was created in response to his submissions? It's like these people have a binder with a couple of different scripts they just keep recycling.

thewebofslime ago

If you think that someone hacked your computer, and launched a DDOS attack, then present evidence. I mean, actual evidence, with proof that a specific person did it.

You mean dox someone? That is what I have to do to prove it to you. If everyone is okay with that, I'm ready. That's why I asked for what standard of evidence is.

When I made the thread, I messaged Vindicator that I was going to be on my best behavior because I had other eyes on the situation. I was looking for shills, but I found something I was not expecting.

Thus far, we have someone who was at the thread, within minutes of VIndicator's post, went to my site, then started attacking it from their own device. I have posted some of those details, already, but would happy to present them again.

Then, the attacks became more sophisticated from a wider range of IP addresses.

The initial device was a company issued device from CACI, a contractor for the DIA. This definitively proves that a DIA contractor went from v/Pizzagate, to my site within minutes.

I wanted to rule out Vindicator, so I looked around and thought it might have something to do with George Tenet. So, I searched George Tenet, CACI, at which point I found THIS:

https://i.imgur.com/gG3YS35.png

Please weigh in on that piece of evidence, alone, if you think I am being deceitful.

Vindicator was the one who happened to find a long forgotten post by IamQ, so if anyone knows the circumstances surrounding that, I'm all ears. I'm very interested in that, actually.

Because now, I have a intelligence contractor who calls themselves Q attacking my site within minutes of Vindicator being pissed at me AND HE STILL WON'T SAY HE DIDN'T DO IT. I've even asked him. I've been polite.

I fixed the post according to Vindicator and your instructions and it is still marked "Possible Disinformation, right now.

It is interesting you bring up previous posts that were successful, because my post, as it stands now, was almost the same as the one we are discussing that was flared "Share This." The post marked "Share This" was less well sourced and less conforming to the rules.

What is the difference? The last post assaults the Q narrative.

Please, go ahead and weight in.

Again, I am happy to provide any proof, but you all better be sure you want me to dox someone. Or we can work out the best way to share it wuthout doing that.

That is why I STARTED WITH asking for a polite interaction, then asked for the best way to present the evidence.

As as result, I have been called a LARP, called a liar (like the David Brock thing that I later proved), etc. But no one has actually been interested in helping me present what I have.

And yes, I'm dangerous. Do you remember you were vetting me and I told you that, "I'm no one to fuck with." That is still the truth. But I am a good guy who is after the truth. If someone disagrees with my presentation of the truth, I have always been willing to go through the process of finding the best way to present evidence.... which is where I am at, right now.

Don't you find it curious that no one has wanted to have THAT part of the conversation, yet?

think- ago

You mean dox someone?

No, I didn't mean to doxx someone. I meant go to the police, and go to court, and get a conviction.

Vindicator was the one who happened to find a long forgotten post by IamQ, so if anyone knows the circumstances surrounding that, I'm all ears. I'm very interested in that, actually.

That's very easily explained. One of @IAmQ's post is @Vindicator's all time fav v/pizzagate posts. (The one where @IAmQ dropped an imgur album shortly after v/pizzagate was created.)

He even made a submission about @IAmQ's posts three months ago, after he stumbled upon his posts while researching something:

Wow. A year before QAnon, new user IamQ made three interesting v/pizzagate submissions right after we were booted from Reddit. Look what he dropped!

It's really not that surprising that he would quote these posts when they are his fav v/pizzagate posts. I also have fav posts I often quote and link to.

It is interesting you bring up previous posts that were successful, because my post, as it stands now, was almost the same as the one we are discussing that was flared "Share This." The post marked "Share This" was less well sourced and less conforming to the rules.

It is interesting I bring them up? I caught you lying. You frequently claimed the mods held you to a higher standard than any other users, giving you a very hard time, and I showed that this was not only a false accusation, I showed that the contrary is true, if anything.

And I didn't even go through all your posts, and looked at all the mod comments and your interactions with the mods. I only looked at some random posts, and was able to immediately find two posts were @Vindicator was really nice and lenient.

I already caught you lying four months ago, when you claimed in the OP of this post that the mods had deleted several posts you allegedly did about the 'Edible Schoolyard' project:

My Edible Schoolyard posts have been deleted by the mods in this sub, so I gave up on trying to tell anyone about it back in April.

I then asked you to show me that several posts got deleted

Was there another post by you that was deleted? Since you said 'My Edible Schoolyard posts have been deleted' (plural)?

but you couldn't, because your claim was false. You said:

I'll have a look later and let you know.I'll have a look later and let you know.

But you never got back to me, because you were not able to present any proof for your claim.

TL;DR: I caught you lying twice about alleged unfair behaviour of the v/pizzagate mods.

If I were you, I would just give this narrative up.

Your recent v/pizzagate post was rightly flaired by @Vindicator per Rule 3, since you had links without description. If he had been nitpicky, he could even have flaired the post per Rule 2, since there were some slight Rule 2 violations inititally I discussed with you when I made edit suggestions. But he didn't.

Then you edited your post, and he removed the flair.

Both he and me told you that posts with Veteran Today links get flaired here for containing possible disinformation. You chose to not remove the Veteran Today link, so the post got flaired.

But I am a good guy who is after the truth.

Good guys don't lie.

And a final remark: You remind me of a Muslim immigrant who comes to a community in a Western country, then gets tantrums because he doesn't like the community's standards and traditions, because they differ from the ones he would prefer, and then goes on to attack the community leaders with false smears because he is upset that he is asked to adjust to the community rules.

Not good.

@srayzie @shewhomustbeobeyed @SandHog @Crensch

kneo24 ago

That link doesn't actually prove your assertion that you were here on v/pizzagate before any of us. See, you cry about insults, but you never prove anything you write in regards to your initial claims. If you don't want to be accused of being a shill, stop acting like one. Why is that so hard for you to understand?

think- ago

I was at /v/Pizzagate before any of you.

Another lie. You've been here for 2.2 years, according to your user page.

@Crensch: 3.7 years.

@Vindicator: 2.3 years

@srayzie: 2.3 years.

@ben_matlock: 2.3 years.

thewebofslime ago

That is just on that account.

https://voat.co/u/webofslime

So... maybe watch what you say before you start making false accusations... just like you are accusing me of doing.

srayzie ago

According to my calculations.....

Crensch ago

srayzie ago

Please see parent @Shizy @MolochHunter

think- ago

Well, you didn't mention any other accounts you are using here. Of course I am presuming you have not been operating a bunch of alt accounts.

But we are all ears to hear which accounts you operate on Voat. Please note it needs to include at least one who is older than @Crensch's to show that I made 'false accusations'. Thank you.

@srayzie @shewhomustbeobeyed @Vindicator @EricKaliberhall

srayzie ago

He keeps making himself look worse πŸ˜‚

kneo24 ago

And remember, it's supposed to be @Vindicator who isn't the smart one here. This whole thing is ridiculous. It's entirely "baffle them with bullshit" to distract.

srayzie ago

That’s because he’s a shill.

think- ago

@PeaceSeeker @MadWorld @kevdude: please see parent. Thanks.

srayzie ago

Omg now he’s competing with us πŸ™„

think- ago

Vindicator ago

Good guys don't lie.

Nope! :-) And this guy is despicable with his lies.

shewhomustbeobeyed ago

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You remind me of a Muslim immigrant who comes to a community in a Western country, then gets tantrums because he doesn't like the community's standards and traditions, because they differ from the ones he would prefer, and then goes on to attack the community leaders with false smears because he is upset that he is asked to adjust to the community rules.

 

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think- ago

;-) xoxoxo

shewhomustbeobeyed ago

Btw, we here in the West have the same problem with Californicators.

;p

NOMOCHOMO ago

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think- ago

@EricKaliberhall @kevdude @PeaceSeeker @MadWorld: please see parent. Thanks.

Crensch ago

I have always been willing to go through the process of finding the best way to present evidence.... which is where I am at, right now.

All I've read is you pissing and moaning about the rules.

Don't you find it curious that no one has wanted to have THAT part of the conversation, yet?

Yet? You mean "anymore"?

Can you just follow the fucking rules? Is it really that difficult to look at your stupid post, start with rule 1, and read down the post making sure it doesn't violate rule 1? Then rinse and repeat for the others?

No, you can't do that. It's TOO HARD for the paid shill to earn his shekels by lulling users with some reasonably decent submissions but TOTALLY BEING CENSORED AND ATTACKED BY BAD ACTOR MODS.

Kek. <----

Kek.

Kek.

thewebofslime ago

Please weigh in so I can present proof in the best manner. I was hoping to do it, right now, but no one has weighed in on the best way to present this. When I return, I will fill in the blanks... per consensus.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagatewhatever/3129367

thewebofslime ago

I'll have to read this later. I have the proof. I've presented as much as I can without doxxing anyone.

Maybe read my updated post.

I'll get back to you. Thanks for weighing in.

think- ago

@srayzie @EricKaliberhall @SandHog @MadWorld @PeaceSeeker: please see parent. Thank you.

srayzie ago

Thank you @think-. That helps me understand the situation much better. I think I know who this is now. ;)

think- ago

Kindly welcome, Srayz.