Most likely you've clicked on a link that is here because of @thewebofslime, and you are now part of databases he taps to find you and others on this site.
This is someone who has claimed that his cousin is a professor in computer science and that his cousin's father is a lawyer. He has claimed to getting help from them. Yet, he doesn't understand some of the subjects listed below.
If he is not full of shit, it would mean that he is actively tracking Voat users' IRL identities, using multitude of large databases. He seems to have a personal beef with @Vindicator, and likely all of /pizzagate as well.
If he's just LARPing, well, he might just be @hojuruku.
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virge ago
@thewebofslime, a line of inquiry:
How? I asked you this question once and you never responded. These aren't just public, you can't go to their site and get the database. That's valuable data, worth money on various open markets. How did you obtain it?
Please clarify the involvement and assessment of CACI. Is CACI a NGO, or just a CIA front? It smells about as legitimate as USAID. Of course, I could be wrong. Just curious.
@Crensch referral tag is rudimentary website child's play. From a technical perspective I see nothing that merits objection about this. Please illuminate me as to your complaint.
Same observation for "he probably made his own website". I don't see anything malign.
The Vindicator section is not enough corroboration. Unless I missed something, he's making an educated guess on 2 minutes. That's about as accurate as flipping a coin, @webofslime?
I don't see this at all. He never says he uses stolen credentials. He admits to e-mail spamming, yes, but he's e-mail spamming a list of CNN and Government e-mail addresses. He's waging a war against CNN. What's not to like?
@thewebofslime, what is the purpose of @followthemoney, and why separate the accounts?
The vernacular used by the accounts matches.
IF @thewebofslime is @followthemoney, then this has the appearance of a albeit somewhat arrogant over-exaggeration for the aggregate. From a technical perspective, he's right - most peoples passwords have leaked by now and most people use a lot of repeat passwords. A staggering, disgustingly amount of people. It's common modern OpSec to never re-use passwords and to have cypher's or variants because of this.
@crensch, if anything this is sound technical observation and my only complaint is he's not even bothering to educate directly and seems mostly indignant he'd have to. Frankly, I would, too.
@thewebofslime, can you explain the discrepancy? Was this a mistake, assumption, or is something not readily apparent by the logs?
@crensch I see what @thewebofslime is saying here, and calling it "holds criminal/doxxing material" is a large stretch of the imagination.
The guy basically said she doxxed first, so he retaliated. Help me see why this isn't equalization of force to combat a threat.
SandHog ago
It is. Definitely is. The whole kerfuffle with this guy started because he didn't want to follow the submission guidelines to v/pizzagate and proceeded to flip out and accuse Vindicator of being a shill and then proceeded to ask if it was ok to dox him. Of course the response to that was much like what you see here. It appears that only reinforced his preconcieved notion that pizzagate was comped and he proceeded to spread that bullshit (before his 'investigation' was even completed mind you) all over reddit and the chans. And he has no idea why those of us involved with pizzagate and saw all this shit first-hand don't trust him.
I've gone around and around with the guy in an attempt to resolve this issue and he simply ignores everything and continues on with whatever game he is playing.
virge ago
And your candid opinion on the rest of my line of inquiry?
argosciv ago
You want candid do ya? How about this...
I was, for a long time and still to an extent, suspicious of the shit being flung at you by malicious users, but, seeing you bend over fucking backwards to defend this cunt, makes me severely suspicious of you.
So to address your "line of inquiry":
How about you open your fucking eyes and learn to read.
The post says "probably created his own attack on website", not "he probably made his own website"
Are you fucking daft?
Let me spell it the fuck out for you:
So, yes, referral tagging is "rudimentary", but what TWOS uses that for is absolutely malicious and proves he has absolutely no fucking regard for the privacy, safety or well being of any Voat user.
Just think, this is all based on what we know he does with Google Analytics services provided by his webhost... whaddya think he has knocked up in the actual website code itself? Do you have any idea what kind of malicious tracking can be performed by someone who has basic understanding of php and who clearly has no ethics on the matter of privacy and safety of others?
Bull.fucking.shit. You dishonest motherfucker. Read what the cunt said again:
The only one stretching their imagination here, is you.
You are bending over fucking backwards to defend the prick, and for what, because you don't lie @theoldones?
I sure hope that's the only reason you are doing it...
I was willing to call it bullshit the way malicious users were treating you, but agian, in light of your defense of TWOS, you are suspicious as fuck.
Now, kindly go fuck yourself.
cc: @SandHog
virge ago
If you call me asking those questions bending over backwards, you've legitimately taken me by surprise. Until recently I've avoided all the GA behavior and related individuals. Every interaction I've had with @thewebofslime was one where he seemed to show things such as Government corruption This is the first time I've seen any of the conversations listed and I read them. Based on your response below, perhaps not carefully enough and I'm open to criticism but I thought I was being pretty non-partition on the issue. I have no beef or allegiance to either party involved, but I read what @crensch wrote and made clear that he had legitimate points by asking @thewebofslime to offer an explanation.
Every story has two sides, and I want to see what they are. If you choose to object to that, so be it, I didn't ask for nor do I need your permission.
So your objection is a freehand paraphrase instead of a quote to try and reduce the size of an already overly long post? The nerve of me, taking into consideration your time. Yes, that's me being patronizing because you're doing it to me.
This is my beef with this. (@madworld to keep me honest, at @sandhogs request)
What he is doing is no different than anytime someone clicks on a Youtube link, or a Facebook link, or a Twitter link, or a CNN link, or a Breitbart link, and so on. His ability to correlate the data is rough approximations and algorithmic assumptions based on timing at best, and while this may be somewhat reliable data it's far from an accurate sample size.
Where the differences end are what he does with the data. In that we both agree, but it's method of capture is negligible in "threat" to be of note. I think I made that pretty clear with my pointed questions. They weren't softballs, but I don't know enough to employ a hard ball in this situation.
What? @theoldones and I have dialogues all the time. I give him shit all the time. I thought it was friendly, and I like what he does. @theoldones are we suddenly enemies?
I never asked for your sympathy or support. Frankly, seeing how you've treated this situation without even bothering to ask me any questions I'm not so sure it wouldn't be a poison pill in the first place just waiting to explode on me for some perceived slight. I'm a solo act entirely because I can't trust the emotional volitility of others, and while I'd like to think I've made quite a few friends along the way. I don't play nice with others and I've been very open with my objectives from day one being for Freedom of Speech.
I see some of the actions of @thewebofslime needing an explanation. If they're not given then I can only switch from neutral to hostile and consider him a State or other paid actor. Until then I'm giving him the same opportunity I give everyone else because you and other Voat members have demonstrated time and time again that you have the brainpower but seem to lack the stamina for appropriate follow-through. This is where I excel where I perceive others to fail.
I do not consider you an enemy of my objective. Hell, I don't even consider WhiteRonin an enemy of my objective - he's actually an ideological mercenary, and that's a totally different matter to deal with that just involves keeping his attention focused on me so it's not aimed at others who aren't as equipped to deal with it.
Feel better, now that you got that off your chest? Was it necessary?
argosciv ago
You completely misrepresented what was said, or, didn't even fucking read properly.
You had plenty of room to quote properly, but instead gave a "freehand paraphrase", which, no, it wasn't a paraphrase, because you completely changed the core concept of what was said.
Bull.fucking.shit. Again you are being completely fucking dishonest and ignoring what I just laid out for you.
Yep, and you jumped on board with fuckwits in defense of TWOS, when you saw he and TOO arguing.
Suspicious or just plain dumb.
As for the diatribe at the end there, again, kindly go fuck yourself.
No, I don't because you're still a dishonest fuck. No, it's not necessary, but I'll say it anyway until you stop being completely fucking ignorant of what others are saying. You wanna wait for some more fucking spin from TWOS? Go for it.
In the meantime, several of us already know what that prick is doing -- what is yet to be determined is whether he's doing it for his own perverse kicks or if he's doing it for someone else or maybe even selling the data onwards, who knows. I don't particularly care, I just know he's a piece of shit and a danger to all Voat users.
virge ago
I think @corpse_washer gave a much more informed and mature reply.
If this is your crusade, you can have it. @thewebofslime currently just appears to me to be a NGO collecting data, either for-profit, or for Government. Either is not ideal, but you also won't be able to really do anything to stop it - so now what?
@sguevar @sandhog @madworld @mrpim @puttitoutisgone Keep me honest if I've misread this, but it smells off all-around to me either way.
sguevar ago
Honestly I can't read this post objectively enough for two reasons:
So I recuse myself from the subject. As stated before, I don't trust many here at Voat and though u/thewebofslim aka u/followthemoney appears to be somewhat reasonable in his comments, I don't trust in the use of alts nor in the works done from the shadows. I have expressed this many times, even if it is found to be naive from my part to do so. I stand where my faith leaads me to stand.
Additionally I do not support nor will I ever support the sharing of personal information of a certain user without that user's expressed public authorization and that goes for more sensitive data as to public record data. I value the right of Voat's user base to have privacy and to deal with Voat matters within Voat.
Is basically the same position I stood regarding your push for transparence. Had it been pushed by someone I trusted then I would probable be more opened to it, but I can't. So at this point I stand out of this. Thanks for the ping.
@PeaceSeeker.
followthemoney ago
He just mad because he is a shill and has to do damage control before he gets exposed. He thinks that discrediting me, specifically, will help protect the narrative. It wont.
thewebofslime acct has an impossible password to remember. So on any other device I use this one. Nothing sinister about it.
This group of users is annoyed enough with me that they were ddosing poal over it, too. When Colin Flaherty shills gave me a hard time, I went through police reports to see what kind of person I was dealing with. That info stopped them from bothering me. Same goes for the last round. I sat on the info for months but crensch said I was all talk. Turns out I'm not all talk.
Notice they are all terrified of doxxing but had no problem doing it to other people. I didn't doxx anyone who hadn't already doxxed someone else.
Either way, the threat to voat are the shills. 4 teams with 2 in competition and 2 who made an alliance. 1 team doesn't do drama, just posts their shtick. Angel investor not aligned with shill teams. Admin uses alts, pushes for peace between teams. Watch close.
Shizie ago
Either you're being dishonest or you're just not aware that zyklon_b is the one who doxed GothamGirl approximately 9 months ago. There was no coordination or group run by @crensch. If there was any group or coordination in that endeavor look to zyklon_b
sguevar ago
The address of the post that u/Crensch defended on his post to try to attack me was never posted on Voat before. So you can claim what you want u/Shizie but you have not moral ground to stand on here as your alt u/hollakost was banned for doxxing. I strongly believe that he did coordinate the effort of that group that you formed part of. And I haven't seen any other proof that says other wise.
Stop with the hypocrisy as you behaved in the same way that u/zyklon_b did. Both behaviors were despicable and I have no further interest in engaging you as you have shown what you are capable of with alt creation and doxx attempts. Have a good day.