Message the Moderators If You Would Like to Be Considered to Be an Approved Submitter to This Subverse (Identitarian)

submitted ago by OwnYourActions

We want only our brothers who can be disciplined and who seek to appeal to our people. Radically mainstream is our approach, NOT self-indulgent extremism. If you don't know what that is, just pretend you're trying to win this fight for the survival and rebirth of our people and it will come to you more and more over time.

Strength is good Honor is good Loyalty is good Respect is good Hierarchy is good Giving is good Discipline is good

The_Trumpenking ago

This is pretty homosexual. If I want to post something controversial I should be able to. Let the votes decide

faggot

DefinitelyNotKevdude ago

Everyone moved to v/identitarians to get away from this faggot.

goat2017 ago

Kind of interested if I can post on this account or if I should post on an alt account.

I'm perfectly capable of behaving and playing as part of the team, even if my inner politics are probably a bit more extreme than what you're looking for. I think this sub has a good community, I like the more positive oriented message and think it's going to be a key component on the path to victory. If my affiliations with further right groups disqualify I can post on a different account or just leave you guys be. I don't want to interfere with what you're doing.

56314978526353 ago

I messaged most of them never got ANY REPLY.

56314978526353 ago

Oh, and my post submission karma is 2130+... I was one of the first to join this club.

Yuropa ago

I was going to post a link to a pic of Tehran before and after the Islamic "revolution".

But I am not approved by the thought police. This is not different than the (((liberal))) media.

DefinitelyNotKevdude ago

Post it to v/identitarians instead!

TheFirstFartbender ago

Let me post, i'll agree not to swear. I will post on the JQ though. I understand there is a place for polite discourse that your mom would read without wincing. I do. I'm not being sarcastic.

let me post, you can always ban me later.

DefinitelyNotKevdude ago

Or you can just post to v/identitarians and not worry about what this faggot reddit mod thinks.

thealtright ago

I'm not going to beg for the ability to continue to make positive contributions to this subverse. Goodbye.

DefinitelyNotKevdude ago

v/identitarians would love your content. It is more active than this place is.

thealtright ago

Ok, I'll join.

digitalentity1497 ago

Every mod and their corresponding subverse is block. I will not beg for free speech.

DefinitelyNotKevdude ago

You don't have to in v/identitarians.

digitalentity1497 ago

Thanks!

56314978526353 ago

What is this, new Reddit?

Grand_Wizard ago

This seems really odd and dumb. If people say dumb things then they will get downvoted. Bringing admins approval into this just seems like a way to shrink the community, when instead the goal is to make the community larger.

DefinitelyNotKevdude ago

The community moved to v/identitarians. You should come too.

OwnYourActions ago

Our goal is to make the community larger and more disciplined and focused on what matters. Quality comes before quantity here.

Grand_Wizard ago

And that is why we are losing.

ExpertShitposter ago

Bad christian. Bad!

Btw, observe the Christians siding with the Jews in the comments of this jewish propaganda video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBu7AT3ZJ7M

Le Israel is our Le greatest ally because they hate the muslims that want to kill us. I can't Le comprehend the concept of hating muslims and jews simultaneously. Le.

Juster ago

I just wanted to put my two cents in to say that I appreciate what you're trying to do here. It was just months ago that we were all talking about how disastrous the optics were at Charlottesville, and how Nazi LARPing was killing the Identitarian movement. Everyone could see it. Now here we are again, circling the same drain of go-nowhere '80s-style white nationalism.

I don't begrudge the old school. But it is time for something new.

For instance, black nationalists should be some of our best allies. Imagine how different Charlottesville would've looked if it were white AND black nationalists marching shoulder-to-shoulder in support of a future where both groups have their own ethnostates? Who would dare call you a Nazi then?

It takes a totally different attitude to go down this road, though. It takes maturity, it takes discipline, it takes farsightedness. That's the kind of movement I want to build, and the only kind of movement capable of actually saving our people.

Snakob95 ago

That comparison is apples to oranges, I'm not saying optics wouldn't improve, but this subverse should be a place where we can be ourselves. IMO.

romainvicta ago

The idea of catering to the grand public doesn't work. Every radical change has been led by a smart and motivated select few or through war. There is no way something like this could ever compete with mainstream propaganda to magically change everyone's minds. Instead of turning people to our views, we should be bringing people to us who already think like us but don't know we exist. That's how I was until I found the altright subreddit. I was hesitant to get involved in stuff like this because I thought the only thing that existed was Stormfront which was a little cringey. For fuck sake we already have a guy running for congress in Paul Nehlen. Do you think he's the only person running with those ideas?

Anyway, if this sub is going to be this heavily moderated now then I can't say I'm thrilled. Saying whatever we want and being able to laugh at what people say in this global situation was a great relief at times.

DefinitelyNotKevdude ago

You can always post to v/identitarians instead. Most of the people who contributed content to this place are over there now, along with most Voaters who used to check this sub.

oiseaulibre ago

The whole purpose of /v/ProtectVoat is to take over the major subs on voat.

https://voat.co/v/realProtectVoat/2284399

Disappointed ago

That's not true at all and I should know.

oiseaulibre ago

You may not be a part of it but that is what the sub has been repeatedly used for. It's also used to attack and witch hunt users.

Disappointed ago

Thing is you accuse @kevdude of it too and I know it isn't the case. What subs do you think we or he controls? What we do is make sure no one owns the default subs. We were instrumental in pushing for less powers for mods and the result of that was janitors, which has been pretty good. No one controls the default subs. So what other ones are you talking about? Pizzagate would have been shit on and destroyed by a lot of regular voaters including SBBH if @Crensch didn't step in.

As for attacking and witch hunting it was also used by Amalek, Sanegoat, registereduser and even Sar to witch hunt us mods. We don't delete anything but duplicate threads and NSFW. So yea, it has been used to by people to attack and witch hunt users but its a free speech sub so what would you have us do? Smack people on the fingers like we are something special? It is what it is. I've said all along some of you guys have been treated harshly but there are no brigading rules on voat and only a select few have had their CCP replaced.

oiseaulibre ago

kev and the others who do this go out of their way to cause drama to take over subs. They did it here on /v/identitarian where they purposely broke the subverses rules and they cried cancer mod when the mod enforced the rules. It happened in the subs listed in @9-11's archives in the first comment in this thread (i.e. /v/european, offgriders, edm). They did it to /v/TIL. Sane went complete cancer mod on TIL. But what caused him to become a cancer mod? The sub was brigaded with posts that 1) broke the rules and 2) attacked the mod, which resulted in Sane panicking and wrongly banning tons of people, including me.

While it's true no one "owns" most of defaults. Most of the of the most active subs are controlled by users from PV, The Cabal, SDBH, and SBBH/ROTR/CouncilOfShitposters.

Examples:

/v/politics(heygeorge), /v/whatever(cynabuns) /v/pizzagate(heygeorge and Crensch), /v/AskVoat(cynabuns), /v/pics(trigglypuff), /v/pizzagatewhatever(heygeorge), /v/news(cynabuns), /v/fatpeoplehate(HomerSimpson and The_Penis_Wizard) /v/politicalnews(kevdude, Crensch, and cynoclast), /v/ReportSpammers(cynabuns), /v/music(foundring), /v/admin(kevdude and mick, /v/traditionalwives(Empress, Le_Squish, and Trigglypuff), /v/technology (Disappointed)

As far as witch hunting, it seems that is what most of PV is used for...

Most recent witch hunt posts on PV:

https://voat.co/v/ProtectVoat/2260895 - https://archive.is/eeInY (from sbbh mod)

https://voat.co/v/ProtectVoat/2244203 - https://archive.is/T7p6r (this one from kev himself)

https://voat.co/v/ProtectVoat/2286426 - https://archive.is/exrsk (from crensch. Crensch seems to think PV is his private brigade army.)

DefinitelyNotKevdude ago

Sane went complete cancer mod on TIL. But what caused him to become a cancer mod?

Sane. Blaming other people's actions for one's own choices is an SJW thing.

And you autistically parrot the talking point about "control" of subs. Please link me to examples of mod abuse by the individuals you link to.

Also, I created v/politicalnews. @Empress created v/traditionalwives - so I don't understand how we can "take over" a sub we made.

But, by all means, if you see censorship or unjustified bans in any of those subverses by an of those mods, post to v/protectvoat.

Edit - I apologize for the alt. I had to make this account to post in subverses that I have been banned from.

ExpertShitposter ago

I am deeply offended that you didn't include v/shitposterstavern in your list of cabal subverses. Please edit it into your post as well as into the sidebar of realProtectVoat

oiseaulibre ago

Send me dick pics and I'll consider it.

Disappointed ago

Btw, if you can ping Sar's name I would appreciate it because I don't like to talk behind his back but I can never remember how to spell his name. A far as I know the other's have changed accounts or stopped posting.

oiseaulibre ago

lmao

Rotteuxx ago

attacked the mod, which resulted in Sane panicking and wrongly banning tons of people, including me.

Bull fucking shit !

Your little buddy was deleting legitimate posts & happily banning people to stir shit up & purposely annoy users.

oiseaulibre ago

He was annoying in comments on other subverses, but he didn't shit up TIL and start banning people until they attacked him and the sub with the "1990" bs. Then Sane overreacted and got ban happy.

ExpertShitposter ago

No the 1990 was a response to him being a jew paid hypocrite and banning legit posts FIRST.

You know this but are being dishonest on purpose. Why must you lie? Does it give you pleasure to lie or is just for trolling purposes?

oiseaulibre ago

1990 was a response to him making spastic comments all over voat

ExpertShitposter ago

No that was during the height of his till modship. Cant remember who invented it. As i have said it many times before, he was only really "harassed" after he started fucking with atko and putt for real. That's why he was a piece of shit. Everything else he or we did was just internet games.

oiseaulibre ago

That's what I was trying to say. He was already harassing the admins before the TIL situation. The bans happened because the sub was attacked and the sub continued getting attacked because the bans happened.

ExpertShitposter ago

卐 Yeah well SBBH did nothing wrong. 卐

Disappointed ago

You try to convince me of this with a list where I am the janitor of a sub called v/technology which I took on because no one else would. So basically I actively campaign for mods to have less power so I can step into that role with less power why? Tell me the logic behind that? Or perhaps its because no one volunteered for the shitty janitor jobs where all you do is look at indian spammers history day after day so I put my hand up after waiting for somene else to take the role.(Not so bad now admittedly I havent had to do anything the last month or so). Do you want to take my place there? I'll gladly hand it over lol. There's no power in there and it just dilutes your message. Sar made the same mistake years ago with his cabal list which included pretty much anyone who had ever posted on certain subs even if it was tell the SBBH to fuck off. Then you had Sane with his shill list which I got on for replying to a pm of his where I told he it was a bad idea to attack Atko directly and from then on, I was one of the master shills. Turns out it was a pretty bad idea idea after all because it turned the site against you guys. You guys are so close to the mark yet alienate people by throwing them onto lists with no reasoning behind it at all.

Maybe focus a bit because certain groups on here need a competent rival badly and the last few years have shown you guys just aren't up to it.

Btw who the fuck is foundring and why is he on your list?

oiseaulibre ago

You try to convince me of this with a list where I am the janitor of a sub called v/technology which I took on because no one else would.

That's one example and I already said you might not be involved.

So basically I actively campaign for mods to have less power so I can step into that role with less power why? Tell me the logic behind that?

Well the logic would be that its camouflage. That's why kev is always concern trolling.

Btw who the fuck is foundring and why is he on your list?

Part of the cabal, but I should not have included him, as the account is inactive.

DefinitelyNotKevdude ago

Well the logic would be that its camouflage. That's why kev is always concern trolling.

Camouflage for what?

Disappointed ago

@Cynabuns is also inactive, as is the @Mick account.

Btw, that v/admins sub looks like it was created just to fuck with the discord crew, it's just a joke sub. Don't let these people fuck with you, they are just lame internet posters. If they think they are winning, let them think it. Just keep speaking your mind, even if it's against me. I'll correct you if you're wrong though. That goes for anyone else reading as well. Speak your mind.

Crensch ago

/v/politics(heygeorge), /v/whatever(cynabuns) /v/pizzagate(heygeorge and Crensch), /v/AskVoat(cynabuns), /v/pics(trigglypuff), /v/pizzagatewhatever(heygeorge), /v/news(cynabuns), /v/fatpeoplehate(HomerSimpson and The_Penis_Wizard) /v/politicalnews(kevdude, Crensch, and cynoclast), /v/ReportSpammers(cynabuns), /v/music(foundring), /v/admin(kevdude and mick, /v/traditionalwives(Empress, Le_Squish, and Trigglypuff), /v/technology (Disappointed)

Tell me, what kind of rEddit cancermod behaviours are shown from the mods of these subs?

What do we unfairly delete, and whom do we ban? Are there narratives we don't allow, in subs that aren't specifically designed for one particular narrative from the outset? (fph/pg/tradwives)

(from crensch. Crensch seems to think PV is his private brigade army.)

Even if I wasn't PV, I'd ping people to my comments. How does my being PV mod change anything?

oiseaulibre ago

Tell me, what kind of rEddit cancermod behaviours are shown from the mods of these subs?

What do we unfairly delete, and whom do we ban? Are there narratives we don't allow, in subs that aren't specifically designed for one particular narrative from the outset? (fph/pg/tradwives)

I didn't say you did. I said a group of people control them.

Even if I wasn't PV, I'd ping people to my comments. How does my being PV mod change anything?

He's using his sub to brigade users he disagrees with.

Crensch ago

I didn't say you did anything wrong in the subs. I said a group of people control them.

So, there's no issue with the mods?

He's using his sub to brigade users he disagrees with.

And I'm saying if I wasn't a mod, I'd behave exactly the same way. What then? Would I finally be in some protected class of people where you won't complain about me simply because my name isn't on a list of people that can but by your admission do not do something more?

oiseaulibre ago

So, there's no issue with the mods?

My claim was that a group of users have been taking over subs.

And I'm saying if I wasn't a mod, I'd behave exactly the same way. What then? Would I finally be in some protected class of people where you won't complain about me simply because my name isn't on a list of people that can but by your admission do not do something more?

You being a mod means you hold more sway and credibility in the community. But even if you weren't mod that post would still be a witch hunt and an attempt to brigade.

Crensch ago

My claim was that a group of users have been taking over subs.

And it suggests that there's a problem.

You being a mod means you hold more sway and credibility in the community. But even if you weren't mod that post would still be a witch hunt and an attempt to brigade.

I don't think it does, and pinging people to stuff I think they'd like to see isn't brigading.

If you think it is, where do you draw the line? Linking to anything on Voat = brigading? Only for certain users? Do tell.

oiseaulibre ago

And it suggests that there's a problem.

The intentions of the group seem to be control over the site, so that is the problem.

I don't think it does, and pinging people to stuff I think they'd like to see isn't brigading.

If you think it is, where do you draw the line? Linking to anything on Voat = brigading? Only for certain users? Do tell.

Making threads in PV linking to comments where someone disagrees with you and calling them Jews or Shills is brigading and witch hunting.

Crensch ago

The intentions of the group seem to be control over the site, so that is the problem.

So despite there not being a problem thanks to the people modding these subs, the fact that they're modding them is a problem?

Making threads in PV linking to comments where someone disagrees with you and calling them Jews or Shills is brigading and witch hunting.

So making threads elsewhere is fine, just not PV? What if I don't call them Jews or Shills?

Is that still brigading and witch hunting?

Users pinged can choose to comment or vote however they want.

oiseaulibre ago

So despite there not being a problem thanks to the people modding these subs, the fact that they're modding them is a problem?

Yes, an SRS-like group controlling voat subs is a bad thinbg.

So making threads elsewhere is fine, just not PV? What if I don't call them Jews or Shills?

Is that still brigading and witch hunting?

Users pinged can choose to comment or vote however they want.

Do you understand what you are doing is literally was SRS does, right?

Crensch ago

Yes, an SRS-like group controlling voat subs is a bad thing.

SRS-like. Care to expand on that?

Do you understand what you are doing is literally was SRS does, right?

What's that?

I don't have a roving band of idiots following me around worshiping the ground I walk on and doing what I tell them to do.

oiseaulibre ago

SRS-like. Care to expand on that?

Use SRS tactics to control forums.

What's that?

You post a comment or post of "shit someone on voat says" (sound familiar) and have the PV shill squad come after them.

i.e. https://archive.is/exrsk

Crensch ago

Use SRS tactics to control forums.

What tactics do I use, and how do I control people?

You post a comment or post of "shit someone on voat says" (sound familiar) and have the PV shill squad come after them.

i.e. https://archive.is/exrsk

I see what I think is either a shill or a Jew, and I let people know. Are you saying you don't like that I let people know what I think?

oiseaulibre ago

What tactics do I use, and how do I control people?

Making posts to brigade users.

Concern trolling to take control on subs.

I never said you control people.

I see what I think is either a shill or a Jew, and I let people know. Are you saying you don't like that I let people know what I think?

Look at the content of this sub compared to what you post on PV: https://www.reddit.com/r/ShitRedditSays/

You literally link to comments to brigade.

Crensch ago

Making posts to brigade users.

I don't make posts to brigade users. I make posts to inform users.

Concern trolling to take control on subs.

What subs did I concern troll to take control of?

I never said you control people.

You alluded to it. Ok, how do I control this forum, then.

Look at the content of this sub compared to what you post on PV: https://www.reddit.com/r/ShitRedditSays/

O...k. So this archive links to this comment and... what?

This comment?

This one?

What is your point, that SRS advertises things said to a wider audience so they can see it? Looks like even SRS on rEddit isn't some monolith of idiot followers that downvote whatever the hive-mind wants them to downvote.

So advertising comments/submissions is brigading and bad?

Or is it just that you and your kind are butthurt because your comments and submissions get downvoted when people see them? Is that the problem you have?

oiseaulibre ago

I don't make posts to brigade users. I make posts to inform users.

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What subs did I concern troll to take control of?

I didn't say you individually, but you as a part of a group. By modding PV and PG you do have major sway on voat.

You alluded to it. Ok, how do I control this forum, then.

Groups like SRS want to have power/control so if they need to use their power to silence or push a narrative they can. PV plays a major role in subs being taken over.

What is your point, that SRS advertises things said to a wider audience so they can see it? Looks like even SRS on rEddit isn't some monolith of idiot followers that downvote whatever the hive-mind wants them to downvote.

So advertising comments/submissions is brigading and bad?

Or is it just that you and your kind are butthurt because your comments and submissions get downvoted when people see them? Is that the problem you have?

I don't know how you can't see how this is bad. SRS has been brigading threads for years by posting links to comments and then invading the thread. You are doing the exact same thing at PV.

SRS is the reason many people left reddit. Here, the mod of PV is defending them.

Crensch ago

I didn't say you individually, but you as a part of a group. By modding PV and PG you do have major sway on voat.

Modding PV is nothing more than being part of a list of users that other users can feel free to ping to problems on the site.

Modding PG is nothing more than booting out cancermods, and checking with the users to see if they want to change the rules every 6 months. I don't consider most PG users to also be Voaters - very few cross that bridge.

Even without those, would you say I still have major sway on voat?

And as for this supposed group I'm in, do you mean the users that tend to do more on Voat? Yeah, we tend to get to know each other after a few tens or hundreds of interactions, and we tend to mod the things we want to ensure don't fall into the wrong hands.

What power do mods really have here? Save those like @HenryCorp and @Haredeenee @she, and the faggots on /v/identitarian?

Groups like SRS want to have power/control so if they need to use their power to silence or push a narrative they can. PV plays a major role in subs being taken over.

No, PV plays a major role in giving a subverse back to the users it was stolen from. One mod taking control of a subverse and changing it without the consent of the users is a bad thing, and that's what we are against.

I don't know how you can't see how this is bad. SRS has been brigading threads for years by posting links to comments and then invading the thread. You are doing the exact same thing at PV.

So, when I ping to my own content, am I brigading myself? What about when I ping to comments I like?

You showed me SRS, and have yet to show how it's an overly bad thing. Advertising to get more eyes on something is neither evil nor good - people will vote how they want to vote, and they'll respond if they want to respond.

SRS is the reason many people left reddit. Here, the mod of PV is defending them.

No, mod and admin deletions, bannings, and narrative-pushing caused people to leave rEddit.

I bet you don't recall, but I was one of those that people linked to from places like SRS, and I wound up beating them. More eyes are only a bad thing if you have something to hide, or you have a shitty userbase.

Does Voat have a shitty userbase?

oiseaulibre ago

So, when I ping to my own content, am I brigading myself? What about when I ping to comments I like?

You showed me SRS, and have yet to show how it's an overly bad thing. Advertising to get more eyes on something is neither evil nor good - people will vote how they want to vote, and they'll respond if they want to respond.

You're not advertising. You're saying here's a comment I don't like everyone go downvoat it.

No, mod and admin deletions, bannings, and narrative-pushing caused people to leave rEddit.

Exactly, once SRS took over the subs on reddit they became cancer mods. Before and while they're taking over subs they couldn't become cancer. SRS became buddies with the admins and slowly took control of the site. They took years.

If all the people left reddit for voat tomorrow SRS would want control here. So, it makes sense that they would want to have power here and not use it until the time is right, Their goal has always been to control speech. SRS wouldn't come over and act like @Haredeenee. They'd come as a friend of voat, someone perhaps looking to protect it. You can look at them as a trojan horse.

I think they have three goals with voat. 1) have control over subs just incase they will need the power to control voat in the future. 2) drive users away so they don't have a place for freedom of speech. 3) limit speech on voat

How they are achieving these goals:

The first: simple, mod all powerful or potentially power subs.

The second: a little more complicated: brigade users, do things like LARPing as Nazis, cough cough /v/ROTR

The third: i.e. when chat was still around the chat restrictions were a direct result of SBBH and a spammer.

Crensch ago

You're not advertising. You're saying here's a comment I don't like everyone go downvoat it.

Am I?

Is that what all linking to comments is, or just when I do it?

Exactly, once SRS took over the subs on reddit they became cancer mods. Before and while they're taking over subs they couldn't become cancer. SRS became buddies with the admins and slowly took control of the site. They took years.

So, because liberal, censoring faggots on rEddit took over the site, that means it'll happen here with people that literally fight against cancermods at every chance?

The very people championing the rights of the users are just going to break bad and start censoring shit with their mod tools?

If all the people left reddit for voat tomorrow SRS would want control here. So, it makes sense that they would want to have power here and not use it until the time is right, Their goal has always been to control speech. SRS wouldn't come over and act like @Haredeenee. They'd come as a friend of voat, someone perhaps looking to protect it. You can look at them as a trojan horse.

That's a helluva long con. Who do you think this applies to here?

I think they have three goals with voat. 1) have control over subs just incase they will need the power to control voat in the future. 2) drive users away so they don't have a place for freedom of speech. 3) limit speech on voat

They'll need to rip the subs from me to get control over the ones I'm [O] on. Everyone is welcome here, and they have a place for their free speech. Shills, Jews, niggers, spics, sandniggers - they all have a place here, and while it may be in the oven, mods don't censor them.

How they are achieving these goals:

The first: simple, mod all powerful or potentially power subs.

Sounds right, but I don't think any of them would survive here.

The second: a little more complicated: brigade users, do things like LARPing as Nazis, cough cough /v/ROTR

You're going to need to define brigading in a way that doesn't basically include any link to anywhere on Voat. My personal definition is that faggot that made the subverse specifically for the purpose of upvote-brigading, or that techius faggot's brigading subverse.

Many aren't larping at all. Many think the Nazis were too soft. This is not a LARP. The Holocaust didn't happen, and Jews really are a danger to whites.

RoTR is a shitposting subverse with a nazi theme. If that scares someone off, then they don't really give a fuck about free speech, and don't belong here.

The third: i.e. when chat was still around the chat restrictions were a direct result of SBBH and a spammer.

... direct result of SaneGoat, and nothing more.

oiseaulibre ago

Am I?

Is that what all linking to comments is, or just when I do it?

Whether you mean to or not, that's what it comes off as.

That's a helluva long con. Who do you think this applies to here?

That's what they did on reddit. The mods didn't become cancer overnight. They were diligently replaced by SRS and waited for their times to strike.

Sounds right, but I don't think any of them would survive here.

You'd think that but, SDBH basically straight up admitted they were SRS before. Me and many others think it is much bigger than just them. Kev and the sbbh crew even call out sdbh, possibly only to give themselves cover, possibly not.

You're going to need to define brigading in a way that doesn't basically include any link to anywhere on Voat. My personal definition is that faggot that made the subverse specifically for the purpose of upvote-brigading, or that techius faggot's brigading subverse.

Linking to a thread with the goal of voat manipulating is brigading, targeting a user with upvoats and downvoats is brigading, targeting a sub with downvoats is brigading.

I'm not saying you're guilty of all that. I'm just defining it.

Many aren't larping at all. Many think the Nazis were too soft. This is not a LARP. The Holocaust didn't happen, and Jews really are a danger to whites.

That's you're opinion, but for many they are LARPing, for example: ROTR.

Muddying the waters is a textbook tactic to drive people away from something. When a person used to come to voat there used to a lot more diverse conversation. Now if someone comes here they get animated CP and Nazis.

RoTR is a shitposting subverse with a nazi theme. If that scares someone off, then they don't really give a fuck about free speech, and don't belong here.

That's just the example of a sub dedicated to that theme. Much of the LARPing happens in major subverses.

There are many people who value free speech who do not want to spend their time online talking to Nazis.

... direct result of SaneGoat, and nothing more.

You were not there. Sane had nothing to do with it. It was a spammer, who only spammed when people besides SBBH were trying to talk.

Crensch ago

Whether you mean to or not, that's what it comes off as.

So my options are:

1) Don't link to anything or ping anyone to anyhting

2) Look like SRS

I'll take option 2. I don't like walking on eggshells.

That's what they did on reddit. The mods didn't become cancer overnight. They were diligently replaced by SRS and waited for their times to strike.

I'd love to know who fits the bill here. I've not detected anything odd, and I'm really quite good at finding out what doesn't quite belong.

You'd think that but, SDBH basically straight up admitted they were SRS before. Me and many others think it is much bigger than just them. Kev and the sbbh crew even call out sdbh, possibly only to give themselves cover, possibly not.

You're telling me that there's a difference between SDBH and SBBH? And aren't the people posting there literally there to shitpost? How can even an admission of guilt be taken seriously by them?

I suppose some would post normally outside of their subverses, but I'd imagine that some do not.

Shitposters used to bug me a lot, but not really anymore. I enjoy the chaotic nature of their content.

Linking to a thread with the goal of voat manipulating is brigading, targeting a user with upvoats and downvoats is brigading, targeting a sub with downvoats is brigading.

All right.

I'm not saying you're guilty of all that. I'm just defining it.

There are a few reasons I ping people to things, but do you want to know the main reason?

I want to read their take on what's going on. I want their opinion. I want them to be aware of the conversation that is happening.

I don't like being in the dark about something, so I try to make sure that the more interesting stuff is shared with those that might also find it interesting.

Just like my posts about X being a Jew or shill. I don't care about the voats, I want people to be aware of that user, and tell me if I'm full of shit.

That's you're opinion, but for many they are LARPing, for example: ROTR.

I fail to see how that's an issue, regardless. The kinds of people that would avoid a place because of NAZIS are the kinds of people that want to silence people for their beliefs.

Muddying the waters is a textbook tactic to drive people away from something. When a person used to come to voat there used to a lot more diverse conversation. Now if someone comes here they get animated CP and Nazis.

What conversations aren't happening? Whose fault is that?

Animation is by legal definition not child porn. Nazis, also, aren't illegal content.

That's just the example of a sub dedicated to that theme. Much of the LARPing happens in major subverses.

There are many people who value free speech who do not want to spend their time online talking to Nazis.

They don't have to. They can block users and subverses just fine. They can even create their own subverses that exclude Nazis.

You were not there. Sane had nothing to do with it. It was a spammer, who only spammed when people besides SBBH were trying to talk.

I was in there. I'm pretty sure it was Sane, but I admit I can't confirm that 100%. Do you feel 100% certain in your statements?

The spam was used when I was in there, so I stopped going.

oiseaulibre ago

So my options are:

1) Don't link to anything or ping anyone to anyhting

2) Look like SRS

I'll take option 2. I don't like walking on eggshells.

There are a few reasons I ping people to things, but do you want to know the main reason?

I want to read their take on what's going on. I want their opinion. I want them to be aware of the conversation that is happening.

I don't like being in the dark about something, so I try to make sure that the more interesting stuff is shared with those that might also find it interesting.

Just like my posts about X being a Jew or shill. I don't care about the voats, I want people to be aware of that user, and tell me if I'm full of shit.

That's not at all what these posts seem like to me, but we are just going to talk in circles about this, lmao.

I'd love to know who fits the bill here. I've not detected anything odd, and I'm really quite good at finding out what doesn't quite belong.

One of the most famous silencing/take overs (good read): https://archive.fo/jenIg

Most recent attempt: https://voat.co/v/realProtectVoat/2284399

Most major subs have a mod from SDBH, SBBH, PV, Cheers, TheCabal, etc. These are the voat power mods.

You're telling me that there's a difference between SDBH and SBBH? And aren't the people posting there literally there to shitpost? How can even an admission of guilt be taken seriously by them?

I suppose some would post normally outside of their subverses, but I'd imagine that some do not.

Shitposters used to bug me a lot, but not really anymore. I enjoy the chaotic nature of their content.

Ask kev if SDBH is SRS and he'll agree.

I fail to see how that's an issue, regardless. The kinds of people that would avoid a place because of NAZIS are the kinds of people that want to silence people for their beliefs.

There's plenty of people who want Nazis to have freedom of speech, but do not care to listen to them.

What conversations aren't happening? Whose fault is that?

Conversations aren't happening because users have been leaving. Whose fault? I think they've been driven away.

Animation is by legal definition not child porn. Nazis, also, aren't illegal content.

You're not understanding what I'm saying. I'm not saying anything is illegal or should be banned. I'm saying when a user comes to voat they see that loli shit and Nazis. I don't think a lot of that content is genuine. It's being used to drive people away.

They don't have to. They can block users and subverses just fine. They can even create their own subverses that exclude Nazis.

Just because users can block people doesn't mean they can't be driven away. Voat has become a shell of what it once was over the past year. I think a lot of it has to do with shills muddying the waters to purposely alienate users.

I was in there. I'm pretty sure it was Sane, but I admit I can't confirm that 100%. Do you feel 100% certain in your statements?

100% sure it wasn't his main account and 99.9% it wasn't whoever was behind the SGIS account on an alt. Sane hated the spammer.

Crensch ago

That's not at all what these posts seem like to me, but we are just going to talk in circles about this, lmao.

Even if my motivation was to garner downvotes, what, in effect, am I actually doing? Am I commanding downvotes upon someone?

One of the most famous silencing/take overs (good read): https://archive.fo/jenIg

Didn't see a single mod we've discussed on there. A lot of SDBH and sanegoat stuff, and nothing about PV.

Of course, that was just a brief look over it.

Most recent attempt: https://voat.co/v/realProtectVoat/2284399

Looks like an alternative was made, and now the users that really want to be part of /v/identitarian, and dislike what was going on can enjoy themselves there now. Good on the mod that decided that.

Most major subs have a mod from SDBH, SBBH, PV, Cheers, TheCabal, etc. These are the voat power mods.

I think you may want to edit your list. Cheers has no mod, and no movement. TheCabal appears to not exist, and from what I recall, was set up as an enemy of PV.

As for the first two, I've only learned today that they're separate entities. It seemed as if you were suggesting they were on different sides, so I fail to see how them modding subverses is a collective issue.

PV mods major subs because we're generally trusted to not fuck things up and act like cancermods. Voat doesn't do background checks, so you work with what you have. Users found us to be trustworthy and transparent in our dealings, so they asked us to mod or join them in modding.

Ask kev if SDBH is SRS and he'll agree.

@kevdude

Forgive me, but as someone not overly familiar with SRS, and based on the archives earlier in our nest, I don't see that they do anything wrong. I don't consider linking to somewhere else to be some kind of sin.

I mean, if they're linked, they're linked, but we have a base-level issue here with what I've seen of SRS.

There's plenty of people who want Nazis to have freedom of speech, but do not care to listen to them.

Nobody has to. They can block users and subverses.

Conversations aren't happening because users have been leaving. Whose fault? I think they've been driven away.

Driven away by whom? Mods using mod tools? Admins? Downvoats?

The Jew I gassed twice this week had plenty of upvoats. I reckon he's gone for good now, regardless.

You're not understanding what I'm saying. I'm not saying anything is illegal or should be banned. I'm saying when a user comes to voat they see that loli shit and Nazis.

As they should. A free place will tend to have that kind of content when it's not allowed elsewhere.

I don't think a lot of that content is genuine. It's being used to drive people away.

Maybe, but if it works, those people really aren't that committed to letting others have their say.

Just because users can block people doesn't mean they can't be driven away. Voat has become a shell of what it once was over the past year. I think a lot of it has to do with shills muddying the waters to purposely alienate users.

People can be driven away by assuming gender these days.

Voat is doing fine, in my opinion. Lots of good information being passed about, and users learning things daily.

Shills are a problem anywhere, but I think we do a decent job of keeping them from getting a foothold.

100% sure it wasn't his main account and 99.9% it wasn't whoever was behind the SGIS account on an alt. Sane hated the spammer.

Maybe you're right. I think everyone hated the spammer, TBQH. I think if a vote mechanism existed in chat where users could reduce submission rates to 10/hr or so, chat would still be extremely viable, and fun.

freshmeat ago

I don't make posts to brigade users. I make posts to inform users.

"rubs hands"

What subs did I concern troll to take control of?

Pizzagate.

What is your point, that SRS advertises things said to a wider audience so they can see it? Looks like even SRS on rEddit isn't some monolith of idiot followers that downvote whatever the hive-mind wants them to downvote.

Revising reality.

Or is it just that you and your kind are butthurt because your comments and submissions get downvoted when people see them? Is that the problem you have?

I think our shit gets upvotes when you guys miss it in the new section. People like honesty, which is why you guys are desperate to hide any meta posts.

Fuckin pedophile.

Crensch ago

Pizzagate.

I was asked to help keep PG alive. Nice try on the gaslighting, Rabbi.

Revising reality.

You mean looking at reality and coming to conclusions based off of that, and not off of what we'd prefer?

I think our shit gets upvotes when you guys miss it in the new section. People like honesty, which is why you guys are desperate to hide any meta posts.

Nah, you have a few faggots that upvote everything you say, but the wider Voat community knows you're full of shit.

Fuckin pedophile.

Keep projecting, Moshe.

freshmeat ago

I was asked to help keep PG alive. Nice try on the gaslighting, Rabbi.

Oh yeah, you created a problem then SRS asked you to step in and censor people worse than Reddit because you want to protect the reputation of pedophiles on this website and have people chasing ghosts.

and not off of what we'd prefer?

That's exactly what you do.

Nah, you have a few faggots that upvote everything you say, but the wider Voat community knows you're full of shit.

You speak for the community? My experience shows that most people agree with me and when you shills notice that, you have to brigade them and myself. I start many genuine conversations here because people ultimately seek the truth.

Keep projecting, Moshe.

You are the one who has tangible evidence of protecting pedophiles while you mod the most controversial sub on this website. I know you have heard this from multiple unrelated sources so it must be a shitty feeling for you being so transparent. You remove legitimate posts that shine light on pedos because you want people to focus on "elite pedophiles" instead of the ones we chat with every day here, like you.

Crensch ago

Oh yeah, you created a problem then SRS asked you to step in and censor people worse than Reddit because you want to protect the reputation of pedophiles on this website and have people chasing ghosts.

Top kek.

That's exactly what you do.

You project your faults onto others.

You speak for the community? My experience shows that most people agree with me and when you shills notice that, you have to brigade them and myself. I start many genuine conversations here because people ultimately seek the truth.

If that wasn't the case, you wouldn't have created your sad little corner of faggotry to whine about legitimate users.

You are the one who has tangible evidence of protecting pedophiles while you mod the most controversial sub on this website. I know you have heard this from multiple unrelated sources so it must be a shitty feeling for you being so transparent. You remove legitimate posts that shine light on pedos because you want people to focus on "elite pedophiles" instead of the ones we chat with every day here, like you.

Kek. The users asked for those rules, and they overwhelmingly wanted to keep them a few months ago. Nobody's buying what you're selling, kike.

freshmeat ago

kek kek kek insert JIDF 4chan comment dismiss and deny jews accusing other people of being jews

You are truly one of the shittiest shills around but you and your butt buddy kevdude have a firm grasp on how the shilling is done here.

Crensch ago

Low effort response. At least you know when you're done.

freshmeat ago

Yeah you never have honest conversation, you just dance around the point and deflect the fact that you safeguard pedophiles on Voat.

89349523095 ago

from the horses mouth, ladies and gents. are you going to talk about your community service next?

tell nellie shes still a little bitch

Disappointed ago

Do you really have to go with a random alt to reply? Anyway i think you have me confused with someone else.

89349523095 ago

no, I have been studying you for a very long time.

Disappointed ago

Then you have been wasting your time if thats what you have. What pills are you taking now?

OwnYourActions ago

So you're saying this is what's happening on voat? I wouldn't doubt it. We can all get black pilled into being extremists at times, however those who consistently use swearing, racial epithets and other extreme language and memes often end up being mentally ill or subversives.

Radically mainstream will win. Self-indulgent extremism fulfills our enemies' stereotypes for them and drives a wedge between us and our people. We have to lead our people. They will only follow those who project strength, love, and stability over degeneracy, weakness and quixotic behavior.

PhimoticEmbrace ago

Unsubscribed. Not interested in the approval of people that are offended by naughty words.

Good luck with your next fundraiser.

DefinitelyNotKevdude ago

v/identitarians is where everyone is posting content now that this sub got stuck up its own ass.

GassyMcGasface ago

Don't unsubscribe because the mod is a kike. Stay and help us make this sub our own. Not everyone here bows down to the shekel. Some of us are here to denounce the niggers (both), kikes, and spics.

Gas the kikes (even if they have mod status).

thealtright ago

We've moved over to v/identitarians

OwnYourActions ago

I'm not offended by them. However undisciplined and rageful behavior is unappealing to most people. You can project strength without the use of racial epithets.

And what fundraiser? We've never raised any money here. I donate a good chunk of my paycheck to our cause every month. The point of the post I made was to cultivate a spirit of community and giving among our people and to encourage people to give to the cause of their choice that supports our people.

Good luck to you, brother.

KekistanEmperor ago

Fuck off my nigga.

WyattMale ago

And what a surprise, barely any activity to be found in this sub.

Message the Moderators

Here's my message: Eat shit and die, kike!

Yuropa ago

However undisciplined and rageful behavior is unappealing to most people.

Show me the data. When was this study done that determined that more than 50% of our people have an aversion to reading posts with "rageful behavior"?

The truth is you are exactly the same as leftist thought police.

You are weak. You are scared. You are ineffective. You will never matter.

Disappointed ago

A bigger sub with a few flaws that is open to participation could be more beneficial then a tightly run electronic newsletter that hardly anyone reads. I agree if you were to take this to the broader community then a bit more discipline nd tact in the messsage would be needed but Voat is not the broader community and I doubt it will ever attract that type.

OwnYourActions ago

We may open up the sub to all posters at some point, once we've cemented our core team.

Disappointed ago

Fair enough but it seems not a lot of people know whats going on. There are some good users here.

OwnYourActions ago

Agreed! I was brigaded so much that I couldn't make posts or message people. I've reached out to more people and will make more updates as we can.

PhimoticEmbrace ago

Any "rageful behaviour" you perceive in written words is your own projection. A racial slur is not a call for violence. You are renaming "hate speech" and trying to enforce it on voat while inviting redditors.

I call bullshit.

OwnYourActions ago

I never said racial slurs are a call for violence. I wholeheartedly disagree with even the concept of "hate speech" or "hate crimes." I've been red pilled long enough to remember a time when the media and SPLC, ADL etc. were pushing for them because there wasn't such a thing.

Having the self control to choose attractive, yet powerful language and actions is the key.

PhimoticEmbrace ago

What are you, some kind of normie-lover?

Gay.

OwnYourActions ago

Actually, yes. Most of the people whom I love and care about are "normie." A lot of them are Trump supporters and will get behind anything that's done professionally and within certain bounds of respectability. They support Identity Evropa actions when they see them - although they would not join such a group. They can't disagree with the message of End Immigration or the presentation of the activists, even if they wouldn't publicly admit to liking the action. We're making gains when more and more of our people agree with our radical actions.

PhimoticEmbrace ago

Because you don't say nigger? Is that why you're making gains?

OwnYourActions ago

No, because we seek to appeal to our people. Racial epithets come off as low class and rude. That drives away quality people.

Tsilent_Tsunami ago

Racial epithets come off as low class and rude.

How could anyone downvote this?

WD_Pelley ago

Then they aren't quality people if they can't buck up and deal with mean words.

PhimoticEmbrace ago

All the quality people that are afraid of mean words.

OwnYourActions ago

No, they're afraid of being left out in the cold, socially, by associating with people who don't have the decency to use manners and who spend their time denigrating other people instead of building their own people's future.

PhimoticEmbrace ago

You guys sound like a lot of fun.

OwnYourActions ago

Sure. Lifting is fun. Making babies is fun. Making banners with your brothers is fun. Risking your livelihoods and personal safety to be activists is fun. Probably not as much fun as trying to tear down the efforts of people who are doing those things though, right?

PhimoticEmbrace ago

Woah, take a compliment mate.