Apparently there are 2 Russian Subs in the News Today?:
US submarine intercepted Russian nuclear sub in American waters opposite Alaska
BATTLE FOR WORLD / DEBKA | July 2, 2019: The article highlights reports reaching DEBKAfile’s military sources about a US submarine being intercepted by a Russian nuclear submarine in American waters opposite Alaska. Where the Russian submarine escorting the nuclear submarine responded with a Balkan 2000 torpedo and scuttled the US vessel. And as a result urgent consultations in both the White House and the Kremlin were taking place on Tuesday (July 2) night.
The US Vice President Mike Pence was cancelled from making an appearance in New Hampshire after being recalled to Washington DC for a meeting scheduled by President Donald Trump without explanation.
And further adding to the secrecy of the breaking news: On Monday (July 1), a Russian Navy’s deep sea research vessel caught fire during a planned operation in Russian territorial waters aimed at exploring the seabed.
Russian President Vladimir Putin cancelled an engagement previously planned and returned to the Kremlin to consult with Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu and military chiefs after news about 14 submariners died in a fire that broke out on a nuclear-powered “experimental submarine in Russian waters.”
The first public statement about the fatal incident on board of a Russian deep sea research vehicle, President Vladimir Putin said that it's a “great loss,” adding that 2 heroes of Russia and 7 high-ranking officers were killed.
“It is not an ordinary vessel, it is a research vessel,” said the president while meeting with the Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu in the wake of the tragedy.
President Putin ordered Shoigu to travel to Severomorsk, where the research vessel is currently stationed, to oversee the investigation and report to him upon return.
http://www.battleforworld.com/2019/02/09/world-war-3-rehearsal-the-third-world-fire-pending-part-3/#USRUSSIANsubs
OK, so maybe NOT Two Russian Subs......just one Russian sub that got into a fire fight with an American Sub in Alaskan waters.
REPORT: AMERICAN SUBMARINE TORPEDOED AND SUNK OFF ALASKA COAST
An American submarine operating off the coast of Alaska was REPORTEDLY torpedoed and SUNK during a firefight with a Russian submarine, after the American sub allegedly intercepted the Russian sub in American waters.
The Russian submarine allegedly sustained heavy damage in the fight, with upwards of 14 crew killed, but it made it back to its base in Russia.
I have calls into the Pentagon and to my Intel Sources seeking to confirm (or deny) this information.
No word on US casualties.
Emergency meetings have been taking place at the White House this afternoon, with Vice President Pence being called back to the White House and having to cancel his scheduled trip to New Hampshire.
As Pence was being called back, word broke in Russian media that Russian President Vladimir Putin cancelled a public event he had long scheduled, and diverted immediately for a meeting with his Defense Minister.
At that meeting, both Putin and the Defense Minister SUMMONED the General Secretary of the Russian Armed Forces to the meeting.
While that was taking place, the European Union headquarters in Brussels Belgium called an Emergency meeting of the EU National Security Council and, separately, the British Government called a COBRA meeting for its government.
This is a developing story. Check back for updates.
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UPDATE 5:45 PM EDT --
Russian President Vladimir Putin has ordered the country’s defense chief to travel to a northern naval base to conduct a probe after a fire on a deep-sea research submersible killed 14 crew members.
(Hal Turner Remark: A fire huh? Hmmmmm. Caused by what? A firefight with a US Submarine, perhaps?)
Putin on July 2 called the incident a “terrific loss” and told Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu to “personally hear reports” and direct the Investigative Committee to “definitely establish the causes behind this tragedy."
Putin’s meeting with Shoigu came after the Defense Ministry said earlier in the day that 14 sailors were killed when a fire broke out on July 1 aboard a submersible carrying out research work in Russian territorial waters.
(Hal Turner Remark: "In Russian territorial waters???" Why the need to say THAT? Something's fishy already with the public statements from Russia. And US/EU/UK governments do not have "emergency meetings" over a "fire" inside a Russian submarine. Nope. I don't buy this one bit. This sounds like a cover story to me. Still digging via my intel contacts.)
UPDATE 7:36 PM EDT --
I will give this Intel to you exactly how I just got it. Make of it what you will:
"An unnatural mobilization at US and Western military bases in the Persian Gulf and in the Gulf states"
UPDATE 7:45 PM EDT --
Gold Bullion spiked up by $40 per ounce in the final hours of trading today. The money people are running to Gold for safety.
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/report-american-submarine-torpedoed-and-sunk-off-alaska-coast
This report says 2 different Russian Subs stories, again.......I don't know what's going on:
Urgent consultations in Washington, Moscow on reported US-Russian submarines in firefight
First reports reaching DEBKAfile’s military sources say that a US submarine intercepted a Russian nuclear sub in American waters opposite Alaska. The Russian sub escorting the nuclear submarine responded with a Balkan 2000 torpedo and scuttled the US vessel. Urgent consultations in both the White House and the Kremlin were taking place on Tuesday night. US Vice President Mike Pence called off an appearance in New Hampshire after being recalled to Washington for a conference called by President Donald Trump without explanation.
More here:
https://www.debka.com/mivzak/urgent-consultations-in-washington-moscow-on-reported-us-russian-submarines-in-firefight/
From Jim Stone, retired U.S. Intel Officer:....this could be a false flag attack BY ISRAEL to start a war between the USA and Russia.
RED ALERT:ACCORDING TO ISRAELI "INTELLIGENCE" SITE DEBKA FILE, RUSSIA (ISRAEL) JUST SANK AN AMERICAN NUCLEAR SUBMARINE IN AMERICAN WATERS IN THE BERING SEA
http://82.221.129.208/debkanukesub.png
THE SHADY "INTEL" SITE DEBKA FILE, WHICH PRODUCED THE ISIS "BEHEADING VIDEOS" HAS JUST STATED RUSSIA SANK AN AMERICAN NUCLEAR SUB. IF THIS REALLY HAPPENED, THE FACT DEBKA RELEASED THIS INFO FIRST STRONGLY INDICATES ISRAEL DID IT, AND THAT THIS IS A FALSE FLAG TO KICK OFF WAR WITH RUSSIA
IT APPEARS THAT AT A MINUMUM, A RUSSIAN NUCLEAR SUBMARINE TOOK A HIT WITH UP TO 13 CASUALTIES, PREDOMINANTLY WITH HEAD INJURIES WHICH WOULD MEAN IT GOT HIT.
Debka File is unreliable. However, it is possible from all the details that:
1. Israel struck both a Russian and American submarine, to anger both countries, and there are indeed 13 badly wounded men on a Russian sub, with head injuries. Something did indeed happen.
Less likely:
2. The U.S. fired at Russia first, and Russia responded or Russia fired at America first, and America responded.
OR, 3. a Russian submarine hit either a U.S. sub by accident, or hit an underwater obstacle by accident.
Something definitely happened. My bets are on Israeli false flag attack.
RUSSIAN SUBMARINE UPDATE
I think something happened, and Debka may have gotten it wrong. Initially it was reported that a fire broke out on a Russian nuclear sub, but mysteriously, along with the fire some of the crew members got head injuries. Now all the reports say only smoke inhalation. So here is what I think is likely:
Something jolted the sub very hard, started a fire, some people got smoke inhalation and Putin is being quiet at this time, waiting for answers to come in.
VERY IMPORTANT NOTE: When this happened, Cloudflare was taken offline.
Why would that happen? ANSWER: To stop people from putting pieces together.
Something happened, and we are not being told. They don't shut down Cloudflare for nothing. Now that everything is contained, Cloudflare is back up.
http://82.221.129.208/.wg7.html
One more possibility: The CIA (clowns) apparently have had their own Sub, that is always up to no good, but Trump's White Hats took it out today. Actually, this might tie in with Q's recent posts about everyone's READINESS.
Be ready, For God and Country Patriots Fight (Russian sub or DS sub?)
https://voat.co/v/GreatAwakening/3312030
Q is BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
https://voat.co/v/GreatAwakening/3302251
Tweets in the last 4-5 days with the word 'Ready' in them from various military organizations including Acting Secretary of Defense
https://voat.co/v/GreatAwakening/3306011
Jordan Sather, says Quite a few military fighter jets up in the Pacific Northwest skies today, I can tell you that, which may or may not be related to the sub stories.
https://twitter.com/Jordan_Sather_/status/1146175251950084096
Here's this from Zero Hedge:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-02/vp-pence-recalled-white-house-emergency-airforce-2-diverted
steveday72 ago
The "fire" on the Russian submarine is reported to have happened on Monday evening, apparently around 8:30pm local time. A nearby town of Lavrentiya is in the time zone UTC+12. Which puts the "fire" at: Mon 08:30am UTC.
Cloudflare started going offline at 7:45am (EDT) Tuesday. Which puts Cloudflare's outage at: Tue 12:45pm UTC.
So the two events happened approximately 28 hours apart.
feli00 ago
I tell you. The Jewish satanic bankers of the Jewish central bank with their puppets Freemasons of the governments of the USA, Russia and the rest of the countries do these things to kill us with these skirmishes and later with the wars that they create. that go to visit the aristocratic Jewish families of the central bank to close the CIA, freemasonry and lock up all the freemasons and Jesuits puppets. Then eliminate the Jewish human slave money, release technologies and live well, happy and collaborating in society. it is a Hebrew slave prison
mismacheta ago
Question is- Do the Bolsheviks(we know who they really are) still control Russia? If they do, then Russia is our enemy. If not, or a similar struggle has/is taking place there as is here, then the leadership fighting against them are our allies.
As far as the people, Russians and Americans have been sold the mutual lies and fear mongering with each as the boogeyman of the other.
Blizzardpants ago
One thing I feel the need to mention is that US and Russian subs have ran into each other before. The US had secret sub bases in Sweden at one point.
Fishdo169 ago
Not sure about this guy but SGT report posted a link to his blog regarding what has happened... here’s the link
https://www.simonparkes.org/single-post/2019/07/02/Summary
DickTick ago
I called it hours ago.
And yet here is /u/GodsAngell doing exactly what I said she would do. Starts off by mostly giving the news the way it is, and sometimes even does a pretty good job of it, but it isn't too many paragraphs before she blast off into pure conjecture, but conveniently never mentions it's pure conjecture and continues to state it as if it's the exact same type facts as from the news sites in her post above that..
You can just about set a clock to it.
AlphabeticalAnon ago
Yeah well, the nukes aren't gonna work. They'll bomb Hanford first, but you can bet it'll be something much less nuclear.
petevoat ago
Good work, thanks for letting us know.
I'm praying for those lost souls if indeed a US sub was scuttled.
But i have no sympathy for black hat operators that want to start off a major conflict. May they burn in hell.
GodsAngell ago
Amen.
Revel4ti0n ago
I think it was a Clown C_A sub where even Trump told Putin to go and hunt it down.
Clown Sub who launched a missile at AF1
GodsAngell ago
Its a possibility.
wokeasfook ago
Guess what else is opposite Alaska? Russia.
Russia is closer to Alaska than mainland US is. So basically Russia had a submarine near Russia. Oh the humanity. Won't somebody think of the children.
User890020 ago
There's plenty in DC who do just that!
GodsAngell ago
I didn't think I needed to point out this obvious FACT that Russia is close to Alaska.
GhostOfSwartz ago
Well you found the need to point out that Alaska was part of the US in your other thread lol.
Thats_not_my_dog ago
As a citizen with zero military experience I have to ask:
Would subs just open fire on each other?
I know aircraft come into US airspace frequently and they get escorted back home, they don't just open fire on each other, at least that I know of.
Isreal has subs? The deepstate has subs? These are mammoth objects that require a dock, crews, supplies, fuel, etc. I could see Israel having a rogue sub but where would black hat operatives store and maintain a submarine?
Too many questions, not enough information.
Blizzardpants ago
My guess on where to store a black hat sub would be on an island off of Washington state's coast. Maybe were finding out why that plane crashed on that island.
DeathRayDesigner ago
This report is so full of unsubstantiated speculation, it is next to worthless. Best to wait and see. Your skepticism regarding CIA submarines is well-founded. A rogue CIA submarine is about as believable as a secret CIA mission to the Moon: impossible to conceal.
As for what might happen, it is more plausible to think that a US sub may have detected the Russian sub where it ought not to have been. The Russian sub would have been embarrassed (not supposed to be detected) and would have withdrawn. The US sub could have made its point by dogging the Russian sub and pinging it regularly with active sonar to make it obvious it was tracking and following them. Submariners pride themselves on their stealth. Having someone following you ringing a bell would be shameful to the Russian submariners. And that would be good enough.
Other things can happen, but a fire in a submarine is a major disaster. At least one Soviet sub was lost because seawater penetration into a missile launch tube caused a propellant fire. Loss of integrity in a compartment could have let high-pressure seawater into the compartment, causing drastic air compression, head injuries (sinuses, etc.), and possibly a fire resulting from the increased air temperature or reaction with seawater. That's a big if, and it is only offered as an illustration of possible explanations. So, be patient and set aside these panting speculations.
Lyonessrising ago
That's the sub they stole and used to try to assassinate 45. I'm sure they have places...the world is big. Rat lines everywhere . Subs ho out n st ssd y out a long long time. It's no 2 hour tour .
hwong ago
isreal has a fleet of some of the worlds best attack and ballistic subs. The dolphins...
DeathRayDesigner ago
The Dolphin class (2 variants) are Diesel-electric attack subs, 6 of them total, good for operation in the Mediterranean Sea, NOT in open-ocean or arctic waters. They do not have the endurance of nuclear submarines and they are NOT ballistic-missile subs.
hwong ago
also.... There is also the possibility the nuclear armament is based on the Gabriel antiship missile, and there are also reports that Harpoon missiles were modified to carry nuclear weapons. Nobody appears to know for sure what missile is operational, only that it was observed and that arming them with nuclear weapons is a logical conclusion. The yield of the nuclear warhead on these missiles is unknown, but estimates float around the two-hundred-kiloton mark, which would make them roughly fourteen times more powerful than the bomb dropped on Hiroshima.
hwong ago
here ya go.... The four large torpedo tubes are the key to Israel’s sea-based deterrent, and without them it’s unlikely the country would have nukes on submarines. The large tubes are used not only for laying mines and sending and receiving divers, but also to launch nuclear cruise missiles. In 2000, the U.S. Navy observed a missile launch from off the coast of Sri Lanka that traveled an estimated 932 miles. Exactly what this missile was is a matter of speculation, but the leading candidate is some advanced form of the Popeye missile.
Thats_not_my_dog ago
Shit I didn't know. No reason to be in the Bering strait from Israel unless starting shit
late2thegame ago
A bit of speculating .... why so many "important people" on a sub together .... invited? ... Like the Titanic? ... what if ... it was a bunch of DS types on that sub ... that needed to be gotten rid of ....
GodsAngell ago
why so many "important people" on a sub together
Yes, it suggests possible sabotage.
that_guy_pming_tits ago
I wonder if it was THE missing sub that sunk.
Kclineman ago
There could be something to this but "Hal Turner Radio Show" has been a source of disinfo only rivaling yournewswire.
Charles_Ponzi_ ago
Hal Turner has admitted in open court that he is an FBI informant and was getting over $100k per year until his cover was blown when Anon released emails between him and his handeler. He is the very definition of fake news.
GodsAngell ago
Is Debka on Hal Turner's payroll too?
Aminous17 ago
Another link https://www.debka.com/mivzak/urgent-consultations-in-washington-moscow-on-reported-us-russian-submarines-in-firefight/ Urgent consultations in Washington, Moscow on reported US-Russian submarines in firefight
Aminous17 ago
What's happen ???
https://youtu.be/O40Hu0yScM4
amarQ144 ago
it's those dang Balkan 2000 torpedoes
derram ago
https://tweetsave.com/jordan_sather_/status/1146175251950084096 :
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hwong ago
can confirm. also a flight of hueys (never before seen in these skies) headed towards the canadian border about 2:00 oclock pacific.
Crpowell821 ago
Why is he calling a nuclear vessel a research vessel?
themagarhino ago
God Dammit. Call it a Wessel!! :P
Wynterwhisper ago
Fox described it as a research vessel as well. It depends on which article one reads but I'm going with the fox article for now only because I'm not familiar with the other news sites cred.
Fancy451 ago
Damnit i read that as wessel.
GodsAngell ago
The deep sea research vessel was probably Nuclear POWERED, as opposed to being fueled by gasoline.....not that it was carrying nuclear warheads.
Crpowell821 ago
Thanks for the clarification. Lots of stuff going on right now.
DickTick ago
Looky there, another normal great comment... It is possible!