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Obrez ago

I stopped reading at

That’s what “they” would want. They want to divide, and they want to make Voat/Qanon look bad and go report it in their articles.

What is happening over in QRV and on other Q related boards is an old 4chan raid tactic called "chemo"

The people doing these raids aren't liberals and journos, although I could believe some edgy lefties come to voat(chapotraphouse types) and they might be participating after seeing how effective the Chemo has been.

The reality Q followers face, (I'm not among your number I came from scrolling /All) is that you have alienated the core userbase on Voat and 8chan by refusing to assimilate and face introspection, you have alienated yourselves from the forces which held the memetic power to convince people to vote for trump and convince people to vote against Hillary.

The political situation is changing again in our country, it's a part of the rightwing swing long predicted by /pol/ that will lead to a truly far right shift, the things holding this shift back have been the target and now Q and trump's philosemitism, along with mindless boomers who have drug the west into the pit of Tartarus due to their life long political narcolepsy.

Before I explain how to repair the bridge that was damaged by Q and Q followers I will explain What /pol/ and the movement really are and why that bridge should be repaired.

/pol/ and as an extension neutral and right leaning chan culture in general which has propagated itself as the father of western meme culture, is 15 years old this october, but if you consider the continual stream of users, the man hours committed to the tasks that 4chan users gravitate towards, especially sense the beginning have had billions of hours dedicated to their discourse.

Essentially you should think of chan culture especially the people there who are truth seekers as a crucible and a smith, raw concepts are heated down to their core elements, the dross removed from the top, cast into the desired shape by a gigantic stream of human consciousness and then hammered into a refined shape and condition and sharpened by plethora of smiths of ideology, thinking, hypothesis, and so on, essentially this element of chan culture is like a great greek forum filled with the best amateur philosophers, and thinkers who can communicate in english text, and there are thousands of them all working toward a single common goal, truth and better living, what they forge in the fires of ideology are tested against all of the other implements of ideology made in all times and places and even against their own conceptions, by this measure the best ideologies rise to the top, it is survival of the fittest, imagine this process going on for 15 years. that's fifteen years of tens of thousands of people striving together for a common yet nebulous goal they are communicating all of their relevant knowledge back to each other and accelerating the process of growth, the time spent at work in such a forge of the mind has produced some great widsdom and skills, skills that the unitiated do not easily comprehend.

Let's talk about what the wayfarers of chan culture have done from behind their keyboards as they have grown in power, Chanology began in 2005 and is cemented into the larger elements of western culture to this day, the goal was an anti censorship and punishment campaign for the church of scientology censoring meme videos of tom cruise saying batshit insane stuff that was taken from some church propaganda and it became a global protest against scientology that has effectively killed the church's growth after exposing their insanity. Next came the unwitting Hijacking of a psy-op by democrats known as occupy wallstreet, most anons weren't verry interested in this because it wasn't our op from the begining and most of us had grown tired of many "moral fags" who stole the anon name from chanology and ultimately became the SJWs we hate today, we knew them by their virtue signaling even back then. We participated in the Arab Spring, I myself am responsible for the dissemination of key passages from the anarchist's cookbook that were translated and compiled to be given to the protesters/rioters we then believed to be secularists in turkey and other places through drone flyover programs, we assisted in the Ukrainian revolution, on both sides by similar methods, We ran DDoS campaigns against mastercard and other banks for ending the banking and donations to wikileaks and that was the straw that broke the camels back, that action got some of our best ten years or more in prison and hundreds of thousands in fines turns out we had interfered pretty heavily in some CIA operations from occupy and on, once re realized this we understood that our only option was to get better at all of this and be more thorough, I could go on about cool IRL things anons have done but the picture should be increasingly clear this unorganized mass is effectively one of the top intel agencies on the planet and we perform our own operations we have learned how to manipulate the space and do so legaly but we are the greatest nightmare of post Peace of Westphalia notions of government and power, /pol/ represents a 4th generational warfare intelligence agency that does it all for free.

I could try to make more aggrandizing claims of how you can't conceive of what is going on if you are just some normie high off a trump rally and coming from facebook but I wont, I will simply make clear that Q has crossed /pol/ because when the original Q namefag handed over his tripcode to the post election Trump staff, the wrong people got their hands on that tripcode and they have been working to subvert all of you and the president, Q followers have deeply offended the long standing truth seekers by falling for it so easily even when we have tried to teach you everything we could, the Q movement, particularly QRV has become what chan culture knows as cancer, unyielding ideologues moved only by emotion and self interest with no consideration for truth, they have become absolutists and cultists, and it seemed fit for some anon to start chemo and others having seen it have joined in, that's why the problem has only gotten worse as it has gone along. IT is not convenient for many Q followers to re-asses their emotional investments, they even admit to as much, saying they are going to stick it out even if they are wrong because that is somehow moral, that's the rationalization of a person who just got out of church and is trying to put the pastor's marriage shaped sermon in a politically shaped hole; this is not the thinking of a person who thinks for themselves and anons hate sheep.

If we can't have discourse we wont have your ideological pollution, is the mentality of people doing the Chemo.

Now, how can the Qmunity bridge this gap and fix the relationship that they have damaged? It's simple, it's the same advice chan culture has given to neophytes for 15 years and we can tell when you don't follow it:

LURK MOAR, NEWFAG

It means we can smell how green you are just from reading your posts, after years of reading web posting we have developed the unique ability to Read the intent of a post, imagine actually being able to read subtext, we can tell when people are lying or bullshiting most of the time, we can tell if they are fresh meat or a foreign influence or actor, this is why the phrase "/pol/ is always right" exists, we functionally have a 6th sense for bullshit.

Now I'm sure some here will give me shit for not addressing the idea that "oh noes CP got posted" I will fill you in on a power that 8/pol/ has, they know all the CP laws because 8chan had a CP problem early on, they know what is prosecutable and what isn't and not all images of naked children are prosecutable, even if those images could be fap material for pedos, So drawn images posted online will never be prosecuted because they are legal in the US, only Traced images of Real CP seems to be illegal in that range, not even images inspired by real CP has been prosecuted in the US, further naked pictures of children which are not deemed to be lewd or sexual are not illegal, no images of clothed children are generally prosecutable their is some more context here but see through sheer fabric seems to legally constitute "clothed" and therefore not lewd, it was a latchkey issue on 8chan for a month, same with the lack of protection for films but no matter the film there has never been a prosecution for CP for the possession of a movie which has nude minors, even doing sexual things, foreign or domestic. The primary instance of CP I have heard hearsay of being posted was described as being a from a medical resource of which there appear to be ample legal protections for and a lack of interest in prosecution for fear of fucking up the medical and pediatric field's learning implements, also images of children on nude beaches appear to be legal as well but I didn't do my due diligence here because even I got spooked looking for resources on that one.

My point on this topic is that I wholly doubt anything Illegal has actually been posted, even if there were real images of nude children they were likely legal images taken from legal resources and used for the purposes of spooking people who don't know the law; essentially anons are playing Scooby Doo villain to get the undesirables who can't think for themselves to leave.

I've only heard negative opinions on QRV from the rest of voat because that place has been a void for sane discourse due to how easily it can be trolled and subverted by bad actors, if you want to normalize that place press the administrator to change how anon subs work so that you get a randomized number badge per thread or a 24 hour badge across the entire sub, this is how /pol/ and other serious anon forums prevent trolling.

ooberlu ago

I will fill you in on a power that 8/pol/ has, they know all the CP laws

Do we really need to scrutinize every.single.case to get around legal definitions? Who's good at being (((lawyers)))? Let's get lost in legal semantics and bog ourselves down with technicalities so we can make cases and allowances for it to permeate our society.

Far as I can see when I've been on 8chan boards, the same autists who cry "FREE SPEECH!" also moralize on the decline of the west, feminists ruining marriage, THOTs running amuck on social media, how they can't find a good woman, et cetera, et cetera.

One can't choose to defend something by legal technicalities on the one hand and also moralize about the decline of western women and civilization on the hand. It's cognitive dissonance.

Pick one or the other.

Porn is morally indefensible.

It's unfortunate that the slow degradation of our society has taken effect to the point where many are too jaded to even recognize what it's done to minds and morality. THIS is the slippery slope that free speech has bought us: transgender porn, child rape anime, bestiality, and furries being posted amuck to further demoralize.

Well done.