WERE WE LIED TO ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST? (GreatAwakening)

submitted ago by srayzie

I know this will be a controversial topic, but as you all know, we’ve been programmed since we were born to believe what we were taught in school. The media and entertainment industry continue to program us.

Us red pilled Patriots do not just believe what we’re told. We’re no longer blind sheep. We do our own research and spread the word. So why not do the same when it comes to the Holocaust?

For over 2 years now, many people on Voat have said that the Holocaust was a lie. I’ve been researching the subject and found an awesome website about it on https://8ch.net/qresearch. I was up late reading this last night, and I am convinced now that we were absolutely lied to. I’m not saying people didn’t die, but the whole story is very different than we’ve been taught to believe.

There are tons of pictures included. It’s a very interesting read no matter what your belief is regarding the Holocaust. So for those of you that are curious, here’s the link...

https://holocaustdeprogrammingcourse.com/

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Euli ago

Congrats! you've fond the truth of the "trillion billion dollar lie" which is known by many with own mind. In Germany it is not allowed by law to deny it.

In US the truth about it has been revealed e.g. by the "Phoenix Journals", in this case in #39 and #40. You can find it here: http://phoenixsourcedistributors.com/html/j039/ and here: http://phoenixsourcedistributors.com/html/j040/

GodsAngell ago

Well here is a Christian (gentile) Concentration Camp Survivor, Corrie Ten Boom, sharing the delights of the Garden Parties going on at German Concentration Camps. Her father, her sister and her brother all died in the concentration camp. Corrie Ten Boom was scheduled to be executed after 11 months, but through a clerical error, she was suddenly released one week before all the women her age (in their fifties) were to be killed, and their bodies burned in the ovens.

Corrie was put into a concentration camp because she and her family hid Jews in Amsterdam during WW2, to help them escape Europe. Her home was called The Hiding Place. At one time they had 30 Jews hiding in their home.

She and her sister went to Ravensbruk. They lived in a barracks that was built for 200 people, but they crammed 700 women into them. They had one meal a day, watery potato soup, with no potatoes. The potatoes just flavored the warm water. That's it. Then they had to work 12 hours a day, dragging away debris from blown up railroads, and assist in rebuilding the railroad tracks (i.e., hard physical labor). Before work each day it took 2 hours to do roll call in the morning, and all the prisoners had to stand in the freezing cold for these two hours in cotton dresses. Every single day, they could smell the smoke of bodies being burned in a huge furnace. Corrie's sister only lasted 10 months before she died. Through the providence of God, Corrie was released by mistake before she was supposed to be put to death the following week along with all the rest of the women her age. The conditions were so harsh the average life expectancy of a concentration camp inmate was about a year.

Corrie Ten Boom a devout Christian broke the laws of the land, which said that Jews were animals and should be rounded up to be killed, (after being worked to death for a year first), just by saving Jewish lives. So Corrie broke Hitler's immoral law, and she suffered for it. The Jews were all at these concentration death camps, just because they were born Jewish or born part Jewish. They did not break any laws, other than being born.

I don't know how many people died in the concentration camps, and neither do you, because the Nazi's did their best to cover their trails, destroying records, digging up bodies and burning them, blowing up buildings, to destroy as much evidence as possible. A lot like Hildabeast would have done, destroying all evidence.

You will also note how wonderfully and lovingly Hitler spoke of the Jews in Mein Kampf. I'm sure because of his attitude toward Jews, you can trust that he treated Jews with the best loving care humanly possible (not). Do the math here.

There was a Holocaust. How many died, no one knows. Schindler, a gentile German Nazi supplier would never have stuck his neck out to save hundreds of Jews, if he didn't know they were about to be killed. He knew what was going on and he blew his wealth to save Jews. Are you saying YOU know more than Schindler and Corrie Ten Boom, sitting in your comfortable chairs in your comfortable homes, thousands of miles and about 80 years away from these events???

Lets get a little TRUTH into your perspectives, shall we, based upon Eye Witness Accounts? Yes the Rothschilds are horrid, and the Rockefellars, and the Soros, etc, but these are just a few people, a few bad apples. Not EVERY Jew is in on these wicked schemes. That would be like saying every Gentile is in on the all the wicked evil schemes of the Clintons and Obamas.

Lets keep some balance and perspective here.

Listen to this Christian survivor of the German Concentration Death Camp GARDEN PARTIES:

Corrie Ten Boom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrHB_Sp4cJs

700 Club Classics - Corrie Ten Boom - CBN.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux0DCFcn5Xw

Corrie Ten Boom, "How to Forgive"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cfp51vLZb4

Dead bodies were dug up and thrown onto open bonfires too. In the beginning when the nazi's thought they would rule the world, they got sloppy and just buried their dead prisoners in huge pits (mass graves). Later when it became apparent they were losing the war and inquiries would be made (Nuremberg?), they rapidly began covering their tracks, forcing prisoners to dig up the dead bodies and throw the bodies onto huge bonfires.

Records were destroyed.

Buildings blown up.

Bottomline? You have absolutely NO IDEA how many innocent people were murdered by the Germans during WW2, and neither does anyone else......except the Jewish families who know that they lost family members. Have you asked those eye witnesses? No, of course not.

THE POINT IS: JEWS WERE ROUNDED UP AND SLAUGHTERED LIKE CATTLE, just because they were born Jewish, by definition, THAT is a HOLOCAUST!!! When NO Jews were left in Europe, except a handful half starved to death in Concentration Camps, THAT IS A HOLOCAUST!!!

Definition: holocaust (hŏlˈə-kôstˌ, hōˈlə-)►

Great destruction resulting in the extensive loss of life.

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ihatejunkiemail ago

close your mouth. your breath smells like foreskin and kiddie blood. making sacrificial manna again?research how many times the nosebergs have been wiped off the face of the earth. research the kalergi plan. research real facts instead of vomiting the propaganda yoy swallow easily as you do fireskuns and bloody manna. seig heil

Itgetsbetter ago

If there's so much conclusive evidence, why all the laws in multiple countries that crucify anyone who cares question any part of the official story?

Lauraingalls ago

And they try to call YOU crazy God's Angel. WOW. This subject has opened my eyes to how manyy EVIL people are on Voat.

GodsAngell ago

Well here is a Christian (gentile) Concentration Camp Survivor, Corrie Ten Boom, sharing the delights of the Garden Parties going on at German Concentration Camps. Her father, her sister and her brother all died in the concentration camp. Corrie Ten Boom was scheduled to be executed after 11 months, but through a clerical error, she was suddenly released one week before all the women her age (in their fifties) were to killed, and their bodies burned in the ovens.

Corrie was put into a concentration camp because she and her family hid Jews in Amsterdam during WW2, to help them escape Europe. Her home was called The Hiding Place. At one time they had 30 Jews hiding in their home.

She and her sister went to Ravensbruk. They lived in a barracks that was built for 200 people, but they crammed 700 women into them. They had one meal a day, watery potato soup, with no potatoes. The potatoes just flavored the warm water. That's it. Then they had to work 12 hours a day, dragging away debris from blown up railroads, and assist in rebuilding the railroad tracks (i.e., hard physical labor). Before work each day it took 2 hours to do roll call in the morning, and all the prisoners had to stand in the freezing cold for these two hours in cotton dresses. Every single day, they could smell the smoke of bodies being burned in a huge furnace. Corrie's sister only lasted 10 months before she died. Through the providence of God, Corrie was released by mistake before she was supposed to be put to death the following week along with all the rest of the women her age. The conditions were so harsh the average life expectancy of a concentration camp inmate was about a year.

Corrie Ten Boom a devout Christian broke the laws of the land, which said that Jews were animals and should be rounded up to be killed, (after being worked to death for a year first), just by saving Jewish lives. So Corrie broke Hitler's immoral law, and she suffered for it. The Jews were all at these concentration death camps, just because they were born Jewish or born part Jewish. They did not break any laws, other than being born.

I don't know how many people died in the concentration camps, and neither do you, because the Nazi's did their best to cover their trails, destroying records, digging up bodies and burning them, blowing up buildings, to destroy as much evidence as possible. At lot like Hildabeast would have done, destroying all evidence.

You will also note how wonderfully and lovingly Hitler spoke of the Jews in Mein Kampf. I'm sure because of his attitude toward Jews, you can trust that he treated Jews with the best loving care humanly possible (not). Do the math here.

There was a Holocaust. How many died, no one knows. Schindler, a gentile German Nazi supplier would never have stuck his neck out to save hundreds of Jews, if he didn't know they were about to be killed. He knew what was going on and he blew his wealth to save Jews. Are you saying YOU know more than Schindler and Corrie Ten Boom, sitting in your comfortable chairs in your comfortable homes, thousands of miles and about 80 years away from these events???

Lets get a little TRUTH into your perspectives, shall we, based upon Eye Witness Accounts? Yes the Rothschilds are horrid, and the Rockefellars, and the Soros, etc, but these are just a few people, a few bad apples. Not EVERY Jew is in on these wicked schemes. Lets keep some balance and perspective here.

Listen to this Christian survivor of the German Concentration Death Camp GARDEN PARTIES:

Corrie Ten Boom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrHB_Sp4cJs

700 Club Classics - Corrie Ten Boom - CBN.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux0DCFcn5Xw

Corrie Ten Boom, "How to Forgive"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cfp51vLZb4

Dead bodies were dug up and thrown onto open bonfires too. In the beginning when the nazi's thought they would rule the world, they got sloppy and just buried their dead prisoners in huge pits. Later when it became apparent they were losing the war and inquiries would be made (Nuremberg?), they rapidly began covering their tracks, forcing prisoners to dig up the dead bodies and throw the bodies onto huge bonfires.

Records were destroyed.

Buildings blown up.

Bottomline? You have absolutely NO IDEA how many innocent people were murdered by the Germans during WW2, and neither does anyone else......except the Jewish families who know that they lost family members. Have you asked those eye witnesses? No, of course not.

THE POINT IS: JEWS WERE ROUNDED UP AND SLAUGHTERED LIKE CATTLE, just because they were born Jewish, by definition, THAT is a HOLOCAUST!!! When NO Jews were left in Europe, except a handful half starved to death in Concentration Camps, THAT IS A HOLOCAUST!!!

Definition: holocaust (hŏlˈə-kôstˌ, hōˈlə-)►

Great destruction resulting in the extensive loss of life.

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Rainy-Day-Dream ago

Corrie ten Boom

oy vey look at that nose, weird you can't find any detailed information of her mother, Cornelia Johanna Arnolda ten Boom-Luitingh, enthnic background online. And it's also odd that her father wore the star of david in the camps if he wasn't a jew. You really think you can fool anyone?

GodsAngell ago

Corrie's father wore the star of David because he was in sympathy with the plight of the Jews. As a Christian, he was acutely aware that the Savior of every Christian is a JEW, called Jesus Christ. I'm sure you have heard of this Jew, every Christian nation celebrates his Birth every winter, during a Holiday called Christmas???

Corrie's father thought that if every Gentile wore a yellow star of david too, the Germans would no longer be able to distinguish between Jews and Gentiles. He was correct of course. But people were too afraid of going to concentration camps to do the same, although most Gentiles were in sympathy with the Jews because the Nazi's were so cruel. Even some German soldiers were horrified with what was happening to Jews, so they GAVE Corrie Ten Boom and her family LOTS of German Military Uniforms, to help Jews Escape. They also shoved ration cards under their doors, so Corrie's family could feed the 30 or so Jews hiding in her home. Not every German was a Nazi maniac, it was nice to find out.

Lauraingalls ago

I see Voat is FILLED with NUTS, God's ANGEL.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

Corrie's father wore the star of David because he was in sympathy with the plight of the Jews.

so the Nazis forced certain prisoners to be marked for identification, yet some guy could just request it and they obliged? If the star was voluntary what would be the point? why would the waste fabric or time meeting silly requests like that for political prisoners during a war? This doesn't add up, while there's a much more reasonable conclusion.

the Savior of every Christian is a JEW

the main holy book of the contemporary "jewish" religion is the talmud. The Talmud has two components; the Mishnah which dates back to approximately 200 AD and the Gemara which dates back to approximately 500 AD, but both certainly after the death of our lord and savior Jesus Christ. Most "jews" alive today, and particularly the ones in Europe that Hitler's put in labor camps, [are Ashkenazim in background]](https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/news/ashkenazi-jewish-ancestry-confirmed-european-by-mtdna-tests/) and not Sephardi. Unlike the Sephardi people, who are the group of people talked about in the old testament who condemned Jesus to death despite his mother being kin to them, the Ashkenazim originate from Babylon where they were devil worshipers and they merely adopted the jewish religion around 8 centuries ago.

Religiously and Ethnically the "jews" of today have nothing to do with Jesus Christ who in the first place was of his father God whom he was himself merely made flesh rather than a jewish person himself.

Corrie's father thought that if every Gentile wore a yellow star of david too, the Germans would no longer be able to distinguish between Jews and Gentiles.

again, why would the Nazis running the camps allow this? it's simply absurd.

But people were too afraid of going to concentration camps to do the same

so not just the stars, but the camps themselves were voluntary? what kind of authoritarian state were they running? if the Nazis were so cruel and oppressive why could this guy do as he liked? why didn't the jews do the converse as him and simply just claim not to be jews if the Nazis would simply take his word for it? not adding up.

so they GAVE Corrie Ten Boom and her family LOTS of German Military Uniforms, to help Jews Escape

"...and then everyone clapped" seriously isn't any of this strikingly too good to be true? where's the proof any of this actually happened?

They also shoved ration cards under their doors, so Corrie's family could feed the 30 or so Jews hiding in her home

so not merely the star or the camps, but the Nazi regime wasn't even keeping close tabs on rations? During a war? They'd regularly redeem dozens of extra tickets and raise no suspicions? have you ever once asked any questions? do you listen and believe Trump's alleged sexual assault victims as well?

Blacksmith21 ago

100% False: "the main holy book of the contemporary "jewish" religion is the talmud."

Mainstream Judaism follows the Torah aka Old Testament.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

the torah includes the oral torah not just the five books of Moses, and guess what the compiled version of the oral torah is called? the talmud. Retard.

Blacksmith21 ago

"but nonetheless are regarded by Orthodox Jews": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral_Torah

Orthodox are 10% of US Jewish population. 22% in Israel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthodox_Judaism#Demographics

Wrong again. Retard.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

so they'd like you to believe, many "jewish" people today are allegedly "atheists" but they still push for abortion which is the modern day version of their child sacrifice rituals

Vindicator ago

The Ashkenazi-Jew theory is interesting and something I'd like to read more about. Genetics ought to be able to trace their history fairly accurately. However...

Jesus Christ who in the first place was of his father God whom he was himself merely made flesh rather than a jewish person himself.

I think you're fooling yourself, here, Rainy. Jesus took every cell of his flesh from Mary, who was a Levite descendant of Aaron the first Jewish priest, according to the Angel Gabriel in the first chapter of the Gospel of Luke.

Gabriel names Mary as the relative of Elizabeth, whom Luke says is a decedent of Aaron, and also tells her Jesus "will be given the throne of his father, David."

According to Scripture, Jesus is definitely a Jew.

Gabriel also tells Zecharriah (Elizabeth's husband, also a Levite priest), the father of John the Baptist, that his prophet son will

"Bring back many of the people of Israel to the Lord their God. And he will go on before the Lord, in the spirit and power of Elijah, to turn the hearts of the parents to their children and the disobedient to the wisdom of the righteous—to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.”

So, the Jews of Jesus' day were already screwed up, even before they decided to kill off their Messiah. Logically, things would have gone downhill dramatically from then, on.

However, I think we should also recall that Jesus himself told the Samaritan woman in the Gospel of John that "Salvation is from the Jews":

"You worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. But a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth, for the Father is seeking such as these to worship Him."

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

The jews of Jesus' day were the people who Moses led in from Egypt to settle in israel, these are the Sephardi jews who exist today. The 12 tribes of israel as it were. The ashkenazi who were the "jews" in Europe Hitler went to war against are not the same group of people, their origins can be traced to babylon where they sacrificed children to baal and moloch before later adopting the jewish religion.

srayzie ago

That’s the part where I get confused. The Jews that are in the Bible... Gods chosen people. I don’t think they are the same Jews as the ones of today. I don’t know enough about it tho. It’s something I would like to learn more about.

What you said Rainy Day makes a lot of sense.

@Vindicator @Think-

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

the twelve tribes of israel fom the old testament, the ones who condemned Jesus to death, are the Sephardi. The Ashkenazim are the self-appointed 13th tribe.

http://www.jesuswasnotajew.org/was-jesus-a-jew-2.html

https://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2011/05/26/ashkenazi-jews-are-not-descendents-of-the-biblical-israelites-2/

srayzie ago

Thank you. I’ll read about it. But, I read in the Bible that Jesus WAS a Jew. But most Jews didn’t believe He was Christ.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

he was born of Mary and she was a jew, so yes but remember he was also God himself incarnate on earth. Also the jewish religion and most of the "jews" running around today have little to do with the ones in the bible, so in so far as we talk about jews today you could argue that he's not since they're a different people with a different religion

srayzie ago

That’s what took me a long time to understand but I’m seeing it now. I’m very interested in learning more about it.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

the truth fears no investigation ;)

srayzie ago

True ;) Thank you for lending me your brain!

think- ago

From what I know, there are Jews who are Semites - those are mentioned in the Bible, and these are those who are still to be found in the Middle East today (Israel), although many Jews immigrated to Israel who have European ancestors (see below).

Then there are Jews who are not descendants of the semitic Jews, but whose ancestors were European, and who later adopted the Jewish faith (Ashkenazi Jews).

@Vindicator @Crensch @Blacksmith21

srayzie ago

Thank you. @Bopper is really smart about this stuff too.

bopper ago

It's funny, it kind of depends on who you read and what you accept from that. I'm with donkey (lol) and David Duke, that the Jews of today are the ancient Jews and can be proven by DNA, tho I haven't researched it in depth. If scripture is correct, they would have to exist today and be identifiable in that they will be converted to Christianity en masse according to scripture. (The reason why they have a homeland now and Trump supports that because the people he follows are at least half right about prophecy.)

srayzie ago

That’s the part where I get confused. The Jews that are in the Bible... Gods chosen people. I don’t think they are the same Jews as the ones of today. I don’t know enough about it tho. It’s something I would like to learn more about.

@Vindicator @Think-

think- ago

The ashkenazi who were the "jews" in Europe Hitler went to war against are not the same group of people, their origins can be traced to babylon

But then they were from the Middle East too? looks confused

I thought that the whole point about the Ashkenazi Jews is that they were not from the Middle East, but from Europe / Western Asia?

?

@srayzie @Crensch @Vindicator @Blacksmith21

Vindicator ago

Those are not what I would call reliable sources. As I pointed out, Jesus himself said he was a Jew (note the word "We" in the quotes I shared above).

We need a scientific source for the genetic stuff. That should be verifiable via modern genome research.

Shizy ago

Interestingly, prior to Jesus the Bible gives a geneology when introducing new, key people. After Jesus, that doesn't happen because through him we are Gods children and not because of our lineage and descendence from Abraham, etc.

Vindicator ago

Interesting. I don't imagine many of us would be descendents of Abraham, anyway. :-)

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

I posted that earlier, Ashkenazim and Sephardi are genetically distinct ethnic groups

Vindicator ago

I would like to read more about that. Do you have any suggested links?

Blacksmith21 ago

I'm impressed.

Vindicator ago

Was that sarcasm?

Blacksmith21 ago

No, it was sincere. Excellent knowledge.

Vindicator ago

:-) Thanks

EmXPpatriot ago

**isn't any of this strikingly too good to be true? **

No - it's not too good to be true.**** The Ten Boom family were locked on to their spiritual lives, they prayed, studied the Bible and trusted Jesus with everything. The work they did of hiding the Jews was an open secret - even the town's police chief knew what they were doing. Food cards were stolen and given to them. Uniforms were given to them because, like what GodsAngell said, not everyone supported what was happening.

I would attribute their success to God answering their prayers. Not only that, their family was highly-connected in the town they lived in and there was a network of people who were working with them (mainly Corrie's brother) transporting Jews out of the town and getting them out of the country. I believe in Jesus as God; he does have the power to orchestrate these things that cannot be explained. The only proof we have that this happened is Corrie Ten Boom's story that she's written. She even states that the reason she wrote the story was so that she could use it to tell others about the love of God. The town's people who knew her & her family can (and have) testified that it did take place. If you go to Holland today - their house is still there and you can go in & tour it. https://www.corrietenboom.com/en/home

Corrie wrote a book called The Hiding Place, it was made into a movie. In the movie, they show the dad lining up to register with the Jews to receive the star. I think this is only in the movie as I cannot find it in the book (as of this typing).

I am open to reading about the truth of the holocaust but I will tell you this, I would like an honest set of facts so that I can make up my own mind. We might NEVER get an honest account of our history. There is plenty of information about 9/11 to say whether or not there were planes, etc. but if our history is doctored, who can I trust? For me the jury is out on this for now.

**As far as Jesus is concerned **- I believe in the New Testament writings, specifically in the book of Revelation where it says (and I paraphrase) that God is not done with the Jewish people yet even thought they reject Jesus as the Messiah. Even though they do not recognize Jesus as the Messiah - they will in the future. There are several instances in the Bible where God the Father says "Israel will be redeemed."

As Q has posted that they are "saving Israel for last" I can't imagine that they are going to do something that involves Trump's daughter since she & Trump's grandkids are Jewish. Why would he allow or do anything weird to hurt her or the religion she's attached to? "Saving Israel for last" could mean anything right now. If he declares that he's going to help them build the temple on the temple mount next to the dome of the rock mosque - then the poop will hit the fan because that is the sign of the Anti-Christ.

Also, regarding Jesus, he was a practicing Jew. He celebrated the Passover, Hanukkah and was in the synagogues on Saturdays preaching & teaching from the scrolls. He came to fulfill the Old Testament Law and Prophets not to abolish them. And he did so, although the Jewish leaders of his time did not recognize what he was doing nor did they acknowledge him as the Messiah. They accused him of blasphemy & that lead to him dying on the cross. But that was the plan all along because God willed it & he came to die for the sins of man.

Both of Jesus' earthly "parents" descend from the line of King David - Mary's father's can trace his lineage to David's son, Nathan. Joseph's father's lineage can be traced to David's son, Solomon. Both of Jesus' earthly "parents" were devout Jews. The history of Jesus descending from Adam is explicitly laid out in the Old and New Testaments.

The Jews will be redeemed and they will recognize Jesus as the Christ - I would tread lightly when speaking of God's chosen people. I am not saying they are automatically good or that we need to put them on a pedestal - for all have fallen short of the glory of God and no one is righteous, not one- but their future has yet to be reconciled and it's through their line that we trace ourselves back to Adam, it's through them we get our Bible, it's through them Jesus is born/died and is resurrected. Have there been bad Jewish people - yes. Are their bad Jewish people today - yes. Is Zionism the right religion - I don't think so because I believe in Jesus as the Messiah. Every one - Jew or Gentile is called, right now, to repent of their sins and put their trust in Jesus as Lord and Savior. There is no "us" and "them" we all have a sin problem and we all need Jesus.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

The work they did of hiding the Jews was an open secret - even the town's police chief knew what they were doing.

again we're talking about an authoritarian state that supposedly systematically killed 6 million people. ow were the german's competent efficient mass murderers who went to war on multiple fronts and for most of the war were winning, but also so bumbling and lenient that they'd allow anything you're talking about? such plot holes only persist in works of fiction

The only proof we have that this happened is Corrie Ten Boom's story that she's written.

right, and first hand accounts aren't reliable evidence.

In the movie, they show the dad lining up to register with the Jews to receive the star.

right but why would they let him have it? and if he could get away with this why didn't jewish men and women refuse to get the star? you think the Nazi's wouldn't have checked if he was jewish? then how did they track down other jews?

would like an honest set of facts so that I can make up my own mind.

read the link that @strayzie posted at the top, watch documentaries like the greatest story never told, etc. look up the counter arguments to what they put forward, teach the controversy and learn the facts.

he was a practicing Jew

sure, but the jewish religion of today's main holy book is the talmud which was compiled hundreds of years after he died. In fact it mentions Jesus and says that he's in hell buring in a cauldron of semen and excrement, and I don't think he believed that. Spiritually it's a completely different religion that when he was alive.

Both of Jesus' earthly "parents" descend from the line of King David

but none of the Ashkenazim jews of today can, they are the self appointed 13th tribe of israel who came from babylon and adopted the jewish religion, the Sephardi people also still exist today they're separate ethnic groups genetically.

trackmeplease ago

Thank you for your sensible rebuttal to the crafty disinformation posted by our clown friends.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

Ms.Ten Boom seems to have her (((mother's))) nose

Lauraingalls ago

WOW. SICK.

EmXPpatriot ago

She was Dutch. She was not Jewish.

ifuckdolphinseverday ago

Nice try shill go collect your blood schekcels elsewhere

trackmeplease ago

Goodness look at the idiots clamoring around that Nigger Faggot

Nosense ago

Even the Red Cross reported nothing on this. Because it didnt happen. How long does it take to burn a body? Where are all the remains? How do gas chambers work?

Until you take in actual evidence and science, not personal accounts (many of which were admitted lies ) you are just repeating your indoctrination script.

Look into it with open eyes. Ya have to find the truth yourself. Dont fear the truth.

GodsAngell ago

Red Cross visits to all prison camps, including prisoner of war camps (downed pilots, etc), were always staged ahead of time. The Germans handed out blankets and other items before the Red Cross arrived, and immediately after the Red Cross left, these items were taken away from the prisoners. Think Hillary Clinton running prison camps, and you get the picture of how honest and accurate these Red Cross "visits" were.

By the way, the Red Cross is as crooked as a dog's hind leg. Q confirmed that.

trackmeplease ago

Avoiding the real questions. Do you know how bodies burn? Do you know what it takes to kill a man with gas? Look at the video posted by one of the top comments. Think rationally.

Of course a nation trying to uphold their national image in wartime would make things extra pretty with better conditions than they could afford before the clowns came in to “inspect”. But that is far far from the point everyone else here is making.

Nosense ago

Yeah so not only did they break the laws of physics by burning that many bodies with very few proper facilities but they were able to hide the entire operation within a reasonable time. Im not debating your programmed response. Look into it on your own and thats all I got to say.

trackmeplease ago

You see how the idiot completely neglects the key points of your post.

Readers: what are you going to do to make up your rational mind?

Phillylotus ago

Clearly these idiots don't personally know any Holocaust survivors or their families. And I agree with your point, that the total number was probably much higher...

Shizy ago

I knew a holocaust survivor. He was a relative through marriage. He's gone now, but I heard many of his stories. He wasn't a Jew, but was captured and put in a camp for being out when he shouldn't have been.

His stories are incongruent with what we have been told about what happened at the camps. Yes, it was a prison, and yes people died. But what we have been told is highly inaccurate based on his description of what he experienced.

I'll continue to question everything we have been told about this.

trackmeplease ago

Your saying the number was probably much higher? What kind of idiot are you? I’ve met the supposed survivors and studied the testimony of hundreds. You have the audacity to call people who rightly notice and point out the proven lies idiots.

You are too stupid for this site. Kindly go fuck yourself. Faggot.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

weird that so many people allegedly survived "death camps"

PacaGoat ago

Good post. Here is a link which explains who these people are. And they arent Jews. Its from the late Chuck Misler an absolute scientist on scripture.

https://khouse.org/articles/2010/920/

trackmeplease ago

Uh no it’s not. It does nothing to discount the lies we are told about the holocaust.

pckpat ago

Good article, TY.

AlabamaPatriot ago

Thank you GodsAngell for the eloquent reply to the OP.

Lauraingalls ago

AlabamaPatriot, We have a REAL battle on our hands with all these EVIL people.

trackmeplease ago

Thanks for showing everyone how wrong and unsupportable those positions are.

trackmeplease ago

Totally stupid and does nothing to discount the points made here.

GodsAngell ago

Well here is a Christian (gentile) Concentration Camp Survivor, Corrie Ten Boom, sharing the delights of the Garden Parties going on at German Concentration Camps. Her father, her sister and her brother all died in the concentration camp. Corrie Ten Boom was scheduled to be executed after 11 months, but through a clerical error, she was suddenly released one week before all the women her age (in their fifties) were to killed, and their bodies burned in the ovens.

Corrie was put into a concentration camp because she and her family hid Jews in Amsterdam during WW2, to help them escape Europe. Her home was called The Hiding Place. At one time they had 30 Jews hiding in their home.

She and her sister went to Ravensbruk. They lived in a barracks that was built for 200 people, but they crammed 700 women into them. They had one meal a day, watery potato soup, with no potatoes. The potatoes just flavored the warm water. That's it. Then they had to work 12 hours a day, dragging away debris from blown up railroads, and assist in rebuilding the railroad tracks (i.e., hard physical labor). Before work each day it took 2 hours to do roll call in the morning, and all the prisoners had to stand in the freezing cold for these two hours in cotton dresses. Every single day, they could smell the smoke of bodies being burned in a huge furnace. Corrie's sister only lasted 10 months before she died. Through the providence of God, Corrie was released by mistake before she was supposed to be put to death the following week along with all the rest of the women her age. The conditions were so harsh the average life expectancy of a concentration camp inmate was about a year.

Corrie Ten Boom a devout Christian broke the laws of the land, which said that Jews were animals and should be rounded up to be killed, (after being worked to death for a year first), just by saving Jewish lives. So Corrie broke Hitler's immoral law, and she suffered for it. The Jews were all at these concentration death camps, just because they were born Jewish or born part Jewish. They did not break any laws, other than being born.

I don't know how many people died in the concentration camps, and neither do you, because the Nazi's did their best to cover their trails, destroying records, digging up bodies and burning them, blowing up buildings, to destroy as much evidence as possible.

You will also note how wonderfully and lovingly Hitler spoke of the Jews in Mein Kampf. I'm sure because of his attitude toward Jews, you can trust that he treated Jews with the best loving care humanly possible (not). Do the math here.

There was a Holocaust. How many died, no one knows. Schindler, a gentile German Nazi supplier would never have stuck his neck out to save hundreds of Jews, if he didn't know they were about to be killed. He knew what was going on and he blew his wealth to save Jews. Are you saying YOU know more than Schindler and Corrie Ten Boom, sitting in your comfortable chairs in your comfortable homes, thousands of miles and about 80 years away from these events???

Lets get a little TRUTH into your perspectives, shall we, based upon Eye Witness Accounts? Yes the Rothschilds are horrid, and the Rockefellars, and the Soros, etc, but these are just a few people, a few bad apples. Not EVERY Jew is in on these wicked schemes. Lets keep some balance and perspective here.

Listen to this Christian survivor of the German Concentration Death Camp GARDEN PARTIES:

Corrie Ten Boom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrHB_Sp4cJs

700 Club Classics - Corrie Ten Boom - CBN.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux0DCFcn5Xw

Corrie Ten Boom, "How to Forgive"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cfp51vLZb4

Dead bodies were dug up and thrown onto open bonfires too. In the beginning when the nazi's thought they would rule the world, they got sloppy and just buried their dead prisoners in huge pits. Later when it became apparent they were losing the war and inquiries would be made (Nuremberg?), they rapidly began covering their tracks, forcing prisoners to dig up the dead bodies and throw the bodies onto huge bonfires.

Records were destroyed.

Buildings blown up.

Bottomline? You have absolutely NO IDEA how many innocent people were murdered by the Germans during WW2, and neither does anyone else......except the Jewish families who know that they lost family members. Have you asked those eye witnesses? No, of course not.

THE POINT IS: JEWS WERE ROUNDED UP AND SLAUGHTERED LIKE CATTLE, just because they were born Jewish, by definition, THAT is a HOLOCAUST!!! When NO Jews were left in Europe, except a handful half starved to death in Concentration Camps, THAT IS A HOLOCAUST!!!

Definition: holocaust (hŏlˈə-kôstˌ, hōˈlə-)►

Great destruction resulting in the extensive loss of life.

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GodsAngell ago

Well here is a Christian (gentile) Concentration Camp Survivor, Corrie Ten Boom, sharing the delights of the Garden Parties going on at German Concentration Camps. Her father, her sister and her brother all died in the concentration camp. Corrie Ten Boom was scheduled to be executed after 11 months, but through a clerical error, she was suddenly released one week before all the women her age (in their fifties) were to killed, and their bodies burned in the ovens.

Corrie was put into a concentration camp because she and her family hid Jews in Amsterdam during WW2, to help them escape Europe. Her home was called The Hiding Place. At one time they had 30 Jews hiding in their home.

She and her sister went to Ravensbruk. They lived in a barracks that was built for 200 people, but they crammed 700 women into them. They had one meal a day, watery potato soup, with no potatoes. The potatoes just flavored the warm water. That's it. Then they had to work 12 hours a day, dragging away debris from blown up railroads, and assist in rebuilding the railroad tracks (i.e., hard physical labor). Before work each day it took 2 hours to do roll call in the morning, and all the prisoners had to stand in the freezing cold for these two hours in cotton dresses. Every single day, they could smell the smoke of bodies being burned in a huge furnace. Corrie's sister only lasted 10 months before she died. Through the providence of God, Corrie was released by mistake before she was supposed to be put to death the following week along with all the rest of the women her age. The conditions were so harsh the average life expectancy of a concentration camp inmate was about a year.

Corrie Ten Boom a devout Christian broke the laws of the land, which said that Jews were animals and should be rounded up to be killed, (after being worked to death for a year first), just by saving Jewish lives. So Corrie broke Hitler's immoral law, and she suffered for it. The Jews were all at these concentration death camps, just because they were born Jewish or born part Jewish. They did not break any laws, other than being born.

I don't know how many people died in the concentration camps, and neither do you, because the Nazi's did their best to cover their trails, destroying records, digging up bodies and burning them, blowing up buildings, to destroy as much evidence as possible.

You will also note how wonderfully and lovingly Hitler spoke of the Jews in Mein Kampf. I'm sure because of his attitude toward Jews, you can trust that he treated Jews with the best loving care humanly possible (not). Do the math here.

There was a Holocaust. How many died, no one knows. Schindler, a gentile German Nazi supplier would never have stuck his neck out to save hundreds of Jews, if he didn't know they were about to be killed. He knew what was going on and he blew his wealth to save Jews. Are you saying YOU know more than Schindler and Corrie Ten Boom, sitting in your comfortable chairs in your comfortable homes, thousands of miles and about 80 years away from these events???

Lets get a little TRUTH into your perspectives, shall we, based upon Eye Witness Accounts? Yes the Rothschilds are horrid, and the Rockefellars, and the Soros, etc, but these are just a few people, a few bad apples. Not EVERY Jew is in on these wicked schemes. Lets keep some balance and perspective here.

Listen to this Christian survivor of the German Concentration Death Camp GARDEN PARTIES:

Corrie Ten Boom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrHB_Sp4cJs

700 Club Classics - Corrie Ten Boom - CBN.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux0DCFcn5Xw

Corrie Ten Boom, "How to Forgive"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cfp51vLZb4

Dead bodies were dug up and thrown onto open bonfires too. In the beginning when the nazi's thought they would rule the world, they got sloppy and just buried their dead prisoners in huge pits. Later when it became apparent they were losing the war and inquiries would be made (Nuremberg?), they rapidly began covering their tracks, forcing prisoners to dig up the dead bodies and throw the bodies onto huge bonfires.

Records were destroyed.

Buildings blown up.

Bottomline? You have absolutely NO IDEA how many innocent people were murdered by the Germans during WW2, and neither does anyone else......except the Jewish families who know that they lost family members. Have you asked those eye witnesses? No, of course not.

THE POINT IS: JEWS WERE ROUNDED UP AND SLAUGHTERED LIKE CATTLE, just because they were born Jewish, by definition, THAT is a HOLOCAUST!!! When NO Jews were left in Europe, except a handful half starved to death in Concentration Camps, THAT IS A HOLOCAUST!!!

Definition: holocaust (hŏlˈə-kôstˌ, hōˈlə-)►

Great destruction resulting in the extensive loss of life.

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Wazhappenin1 ago

I would agree with you. You can't paint a race with a broad brush. But that principle "there are good Jews" can still exist with the holocost being blown out of proportion.

To be honest, Connie's story sounds a little exaggerated to me, plus it mimics many other story's. Do you know that often people who have claimed to been inmates in concentration camps have lied about it? Have exaggerated it?

Just saying .

For example there is now some reveal about Anne frank, which this Connie story obviously resembles, that she didn't write this, it was her father, Otto Frank. And this has been acknowledged by the Jews who run the anne Frank house.

Truth can only be believed unquestionably while there is no proof of a lie. One lie can destroy a persons reputation or his testimony. That's what lawyers look for inconsistencies, inconvenient facts, and lies. Cases are won in the discovery stage especially during depositions, because of lies.

We were told a lie about Anne Frank, entire generations of Americans believed what they were told. Movies, movies and plays and plays and movies and then the museums. Then it turns out it was a lie. And that's just one instance.

Listen I've been to the Anne Frank museum in Amsterdam, the holocost museum in DC.

I've had myriads of Jewish Customers and I've only gotten ripped off twice, one for 15k the other for 5k . I took the first one to court. The other I let go.

A close family friend of mine was orthodox and he worked for a guy whose parents were 'killed' in aushwitz. I've been to the shule on East Ave several times, where BIbi recites the Talmud every time he's in NYC. I get it. But 'eyewitness accounts' told over and over again to a hungry audience sometimes are not the best way to fact check a story, that is illegal to question in many western countries, and doing it anywhere makes you persona non grata, unless you are on Voat!

That's all. Good luck to you patriot.

DawnPendraig ago

Well said and thank you for that perspective which is unavailable to me. I've seen many if the plays and movies, seems like we had to study Anne Frank's "Diary" in depth every year of middle school while they barely touched on American History.

I felt so awful for her and her family and to know it's now at least part lies is a betrayal.

Wazhappenin1 ago

I've been into conspiracy theories for 30 years and i never had the courage to look into the holo cost until just recently. It was Anne Frank and the controversy of who wrote what and then the AF house decided to give authorship to otto so they could extend the copyright ! You can't made this up. It's in regular newspapers etc.

I'm a ww2 buff as it is. So I pretty much absorbed everything in shock. But the other side imho makes alot more sense. It's tough to even say it. My family doesn't know yet how I think. It's too much to handle with out some preparation. As it is they believe every story that comes down the pike! So tree holocaust is a def non starter !

It's like telling a life longDemocrat that HRC is a cold blooded murderer. They'll just laugh you off like you are a nutcase.

Kurt Vonnegut slaughterhouse 5 read it or watch the movie. It describes the fire bombing of dresden. Essentially the book is the ptsd that the main character has after witnessing what happened.

But back to Frank, I mean we beat that story to death in high school. There were special performances etc. I even made it a point to go to the museum in Amsterdam.

But thanks for your comment.

And good luck

Rawrination ago

Happy Hanuka ya kikeniggerfaggot.

GodsAngell ago

Well here is a Concentration Camp Survivor sharing the delights of the Garden Parties going on at Concentration Camps. Her father, her sister and her brother all died in the concentration camp. Corrie Ten Boom was scheduled to be executed after 11 months, but through a clerical error, she was suddenly released one week before all the women her age (in their fifties) were to killed, and their bodies burned in the ovens.

Corrie was put into a concentration camp because she and her family hid Jews in Amsterdam during WW2, to help them escape Europe. Her home was called The Hiding Place. At one time they had 30 Jews hiding in their home.

She and her sister went to Ravensbruk. They lived in a barracks that was built for 200 people, but they crammed 700 women into them. They had one meal a day, watery potato soup, with no potatoes. The potatoes just flavored the warm water. That's it. Then they had to work 12 hours a day, dragging away debris from blown up railroads, and assist in rebuilding the railroad tracks (i.e., hard physical labor). Before work each day it took 2 hours to do roll call in the morning, and all the prisoners had to stand in the freezing cold for these two hours in cotton dresses. Corrie's sister only lasted 10 months before she died. Through the providence of God, Corrie was released by mistake before she was supposed to be put to death along with all the rest of the women her age. The conditions were so harsh the average life expectancy of a concentration camp inmate was about a year.

Corrie Ten Boom a devout Christian who broke the laws of the land, which said that Jews were animals and should be rounded up to be killed, (after being worked to death for a year first). So Corrie broke Hitler's immoral law, and she suffered for it. The Jews were all there, just because they were born Jewish or born part Jewish. They did not break any laws, other than being born.

I don't know how many people died in the concentration camps, and neither do you, because the Nazi's did their best to cover their trails, destroying records, digging up bodies and burning them, blowing up buildings, to destroy as much evidence as possible.

You will also note how wonderfully and lovingly Hitler spoke of the Jews in Mein Kampf. I'm sure because of his attitude toward Jews, he treated Jews with the best loving care humanly possible (not). Do the math here.

There was a Holocaust. How many died, no one knows. Schindler, a gentile German Nazi supplier would never have stuck his neck out to save hundreds of Jews, if he didn't know they were about to be killed. He knew what was going on and he blew his wealth to save Jews. Are you saying YOU know more than Schindler and Corrie Ten Boom, sitting in your comfortable chairs in your comfortable homes, thousands of miles and about 80 years away from these events???

Lets get a little TRUTH into your perspectives, shall we, based upon Eye Witness Accounts? Yes the Rothschilds are horrid, and the Rockefellars, and the Soros, etc, but these are just a few people, a few bad apples. Not EVERY Jew is in on these wicked schemes. Lets keep some balance and perspective here.

Listen to this Christian survivor of the German Concentration Camp GARDEN PARTIES:

Corrie Ten Boom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrHB_Sp4cJs

700 Club Classics - Corrie Ten Boom - CBN.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux0DCFcn5Xw

Corrie Ten Boom, "How to Forgive"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cfp51vLZb4

Kekalicious ago

I will never believe what comes out of another humans lips as facts. Anyone can spread lies. I am stating that 250,000 is a whole lot less than 6 gorillion. There is no way in hell they killed, burned, buried, 964 bodies an hour, round the clock, for seven years to make 5.6 million. I know people died. War is a shitty deal all around. And I am sure no animosity was shown for the German people getting shat on for the last twenty years. Starving times are family times. Anna Frank was using ballpoint before it was cool. The gas chambers having wooden doors and drains on the floor. No trace of chemicals on the walls. No chimney at the time. The joos pushing a number. The joos being forced out 107 times. Simon of Trent. Sorry, Saint Simon of Trent. The real world will make us sad. At least we see the real world.

Antiracist10 ago

Dawg, I bet I could hit 964 kikes an hour easy. I'm not trying to brag or whip out a Ti-83+ to do the math. I'm just saying all this nazis be like "but what about muh numbers?!" and I'm like, "Sound reasonable to my ear."

On the kike news network CNN, Muslim kike Muhammad Steinberg Resa Aslan did an episode on India. And he said whatever number of corpses were burned at the Ganges a day. I did some quick mental math, (of course not the scholarly work of high schoolers as professed in this thread), but I was like, "Yep, that's a Holocaust's amount." But I bet the kike news just invented India and that number to cover their tracks.

You think the Germans couldn't handle their cremation and had to outsource to some Pajeets? Nigga get out of town. It's just fire. Throw Jews into the fire. Not exactly rocket science here.

No I'm not gonna give you the lifecycle of how oil gets drilled to eventually be used in making Jew dust. Just remember it's as simple as Jew + Fire. Done and done.

"Err, but what about the angle of the trajectory of the velocity of the viscosity of the--!" No! Jew in fire! Done and done! No more questions!

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

"Sound reasonable to my ear."

real hard hitting evidence right here

it's as simple as Jew + Fire. Done and done.

why haven't we found enough ash to account for those killed then? if someone was killed where the body?

Antiracist2 ago

Keep hitting those test tubes and maybe someday man will know the secret formula for distinguishing kike carbon from non-kike carbon.

real hard hitting evidence right here

Way to miss the point, dumbshit: That Holocaust denier arguments come down to shitty hand-waving math, to the ear of someone who has shit mathematical intuition. Oh, so the numbers you pull right out of your ass are legit, but someone can't have a dissenting opinion after doing all the same, (no), research? Sounds like you knew the conclusion you wanted to reach from the start, and it was way up there in your anus.

Hey buddy, I don't need to make up math to prove the Holocaust. I get the luxury at pointing to a consensus of historians. But keep up your stunning record of having no idea how burden of proof works, faggot.

How can you possibly be reasonably spoken to about history, but when it even comes to LOGIC you just make shit up and then refuse to admit you're wrong?

You are of sub-par intelligence, faggot.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

That Holocaust denier arguments come down to shitty hand-waving math

just regular math actually

pointing to a consensus of historians

consensus doesn't actually prove anything, even kikes understand this when a pamphlet was published entitled 100 Authors Against Einstein, Einstein retorted "If I were wrong, one would be enough." If all these historians are so certain they should produce evidence of their claims.

having no idea how burden of proof works

you're making the claim, you hold the burden of proof. You assert that something is true (le 6 million), "holocaust deniers" come back with math and historical accounts from the red cross that contradict your assertion and thus the burden of proof lies with you and you need to provide evidence more compelling than what you're trying to refute.

refuse to admit you're wrong?

I'm aware you think I'm wrong but you have no real basis for saying so.

You are of sub-par intelligence, faggot.

you're simply projecting

Antiracist2 ago

you're simply projecting

Dawg, not even. It's clear you don't know logic, but you talk like you do.

If all these historians are so certain they should produce evidence of their claims.

You have Wendy Wright's skills at ignoring evidence.

and thus the burden of proof lies with you

Burden of rebuttal, faggot.

I'm aware you think I'm wrong but you have no real basis for saying so.

First you made up a logical law that you'll find in no logic textbook. Then I literally disprove it immediately. And then you fail to identify an argument, and just say "no real basis!" You're worthless. Not even worth talking to. It's clear you're incapable of recognizing evidence, empirical or logical.

Faggot.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

It's clear you don't know logic, but you talk like you do.

you're simply projecting

ignoring evidence

what evidence have you provided that I've ignored? you've just made random baseless assertions about how it's obvious the holocaust narrative is true and that the numbers seem reasonable to you

First you made up a logical law that you'll find in no logic textbook. Then I literally disprove it immediately. And then you fail to identify an argument, and just say "no real basis!" You're worthless. Not even worth talking to. It's clear you're incapable of recognizing evidence, empirical or logical.

what that I'm denying something that isn't true or proven in the first place? "holocaust denier" is just a nonsense label kikes made up to hand wave away people who call them out on their bullshit. The holocaust did not happen, 6 million jews were not systematically exterminated. This is a statement of fact as you can't provide any evidence to the contrary for me to deny.

antiracist3 ago

Oh my God. I know logic. You don't. Any objective test would reveal this.

My "baseless assertions" included a proof against your made-up logic, and a restatement of your own position with your own words. And you still haven't understood my jab at your side regarding numbers that seem reasonable.

You would deny truth if you lack proof. Proof is hard to come by. You will deny a lot of truth. "Holocaust denier" isn't a nonsense label, it is a label that makes sense. You are denying the Holocaust, but you do not know what the word deny means or how logic works.

The JIDF doesn't pay me enough to come in here and prove the Holocaust happened, but I did prove that you're an idiot who doesn't know how logic works.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

you didn't prove shit, you can keep repeating your nonsense, but that doesn't make it true

Kekalicious ago

Proof is what they can actually prove. If someone is lying to me to push an agenda. well, fuck that.

Antiracist10 ago

Proof is required for sane beliefs. Look at all this shit you can't prove:

  • There is an external world

  • There are other minds

  • The universe didn't just start 5 minutes ago

But when it comes to the possibility of a bunch of kike-hating nazis burning a bunch of kikes, it's like you need HD video to count a head.

Kekalicious ago

250,000 is a diffrent thing to 6,000,000

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

gas chambers with wooden doors, and death roller coasters aren't sane beliefs at all.

Antiracist2 ago

Even (((Michael Shermer))) agrees with you on that. Try harder, faggot.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

what's your point?

Antiracist2 ago

That some far-fetched tales of human lampshades or whatever are not enough to refute historical consensus.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

consensus doesn't prove anything retard, you could get a billion people to agree 2+2=5 and they'd still all be wrong regardless of any of their credentials

Antiracist2 ago

Talk shit about consensus as much as you want, it's still gonna weigh a lot heavier than your retarded opinion.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

literally no, even if it was just my opinion and nothing else in terms of evidence opinions are of equal value even if it's one person's versus many. In fact for example any number of people could accuse a man of a crime and he could say he didn't do it and that's an equal weight of evidence. If he then goes into court and states under oath he didn't do it under penalty of law that's actually more evidence than the accusation and then the burden of proof lies with his accusers.

antiracist3 ago

First of all, YOUR opinion is worthless, and you're an idiot. Second of all, you have no idea how witness testimony works.

You keep thinking history and courtrooms are physics laboratories. You have no appreciation for the different standards of evidence found in those places.

You are being hyperskeptical: an irrationality, not a virtue.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

my opinion is worth just as much as anyone else's or any number of people's for that matter.

You keep thinking history and courtrooms are physics laboratories. You have no appreciation for the different standards of evidence found in those places.

all I've asked for is remains, not how they were killed or when, where are the mass graves and human ash to account for 6 million jewish deaths? account for even a million people dying in the camps with actual remains, I'll wait. If something actually happened there should be some proof it happened. No body, no murder.

You are being hyperskeptical

no just regular skepticism, you say 6 million people died I ask for verifiable proof that should obviously exist if such a thing did indeed happen.

Lauraingalls ago

YOU ARE DEALING WITH EXTREMELY SICK PEOPLE HERE. They are SCARY.

PacaGoat ago

Morons and sock puppets. Evil and our enemy. Remember this. Those who forget or deny the past are doomed to repeat it.

DawnPendraig ago

I resisted this info too but when I separate emotion there are series flaws with the official story and at the very least it's likely the death toll was greatly exaggerated. Still horrific but exaggerated insanely.

Then I start reading about the Sabbateans and the way it seems these camps were used to force Jews in Germany to move to Isreal and things start to make sense.

Then add there is some prophecy about a holocaust and the magic number 6 million is in that coupled with them forcing people to relocate who probably never wanted to do so.

Great video explains this and who was behind it all.

It's by Robert Sepehr. He calls the puppet masters of this Sabbateans and he has a book about it called 1666. The date of the Synagogue of Satan's self proclaimed Messiah coming out. They had/have an inverted ten commandments etc.

https://youtu.be/LB5mK5PEgrM

PacaGoat ago

The components of the death toll are misleading. History and eyewitnesses bith Jew and German testify to the atrocities commited and their volume. The narrative of escalating body count is also a ruse. The purpose is to throw doubt into the minds of people. All of this has been prophecied. It is the means and vehicle of the antisemite assault we see going on today. And as we see thos growing and innlarge part due to the Islamic invasions of most ofbwestern Europe, we will see this movement grow. In Psalms 83 we can see this, where the prophet calls these people who "make a tulmute" the enimies of not just Israel, but of God. The stage is being set and the prophecies will be fulfilled. The question is, which side will we individually and collectively align?

The formation of Israel perfectly aligns with the prophecies in Ezekiels vision of the valley of dry bones. Son of man can these bones live? The implication is that these dead had been dead a very long time. We also see another question asked by God. Can a nation be born in a day. It happened and Jerusem was restored to Israel 20 years later mirroring the destruction of Israel first and then of Jerusalem 20 years later in 586bc. The restoration in otherwords occured the opposite or mirror of the destruction by Nebuchadnezzar.

If we rely solely on extra biblical evidences we will be led astray. Let us rely mostly on scripture and extra biblical offerings if and only if they correctly align with scripture. But do take note of this. When Jesus was temped after his baptism, satan temped him with scripture. This is why the leding of the Holy Spirit is so very important.

Thx for your comment

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

can't deny what hasn't been proven, burden of proof is on the 6 million side. In the first place the actual estimate of jewish deaths by mainstream historians is 4-6 million so even the main stream narrative won't definitively claim 6 million

antiracist ago

can't deny what hasn't been proven

Made up logic award of the day goes to you.

P: can't deny what hasn't been proven

P itself has not been proven.

I deny P.

Therefore, P is false.

Faggot.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

that's not a denial of anything though, saying "I don't think P is true" without anyone providing proof to the contrary denies nothing.

Antiracist10 ago

saying "I don't think P is true", that's not a denial of anything though

Way to double down on your "can't deny it unless you supply it" kindergarten fart logic.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

not an argument, sorry you have no factual basis for your nonsensical beliefs my dude

Antiracist2 ago

The only nonsensical belief presented here was P, which I used an argument to disprove, you dumb faggot.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

your argument makes no sense though, if I was to say "I don't think the sky is brown" that wouldn't be denying the brown sky because there's nothing to prove in the first place that it's true. I can't deny nothing.

Antiracist2 ago

Keep pretending that "I don't think" is not synonymous with "deny", that I said "I don't think" instead of deny, and that "deny" couldn't easily replace your shitty example.

I deny the sky is brown. I don't need to wait for your faggot ass to pop up and claim that it's blue or something for me to deny that it's brown. I can very well make the first move and deny something, faggot.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

but when did I "deny" the holocaust? I'm merely asking for proof of this claim of 6 million jewish deaths. Is asking questions and citing reasons for asking such as evidence that suggests contrary to the stated narrative somehow denial? Feel free to point me toward anything verifiable to back up the 6 million and I'll be happy to take a look, because unlike you I'm not a close minded retard.

Antiracist2 ago

but when did I "deny" the holocaust?

"it didn't happen yet, but it will" ~~ Rainy-Day-Faggot

Dumb faggot.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

I have no reason to believe it did

Antiracist2 ago

Numbskull, the topic wasn't whether you had reason to believe something; it was whether you deny something: you do. It's like you don't even know your own position, that I have to remind you that you're denying something.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

that's not a denial of anything though, it's simply a statement.

Antiracist2 ago

Add "deny" to the list of words you're too stupid to understand.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

says the man who thinks consensus is evidence.

Antiracist10 ago

So, if I don't know what consensus is, you know what denial is. More great logic coming out of you.

Please, live your life without regard for consensus. Please. You can start with independently verifying the mechanisms of action of your prescribed medicine. Wouldn't want the kike to get into your bloodstream.

Hay, why do you deny the Holocaust?

-- Because I reject consensus!

Genius.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

consensus isn't evidence 100 similar opinions aren't worth more tan 1 opinion especially if the one has evidence

Antiracist10 ago

You're confusing your right to have an opinion with your opinion having worth.

You would die without your reliance on consensus.

It is clear you don't know what evidence is.

Get an education instead of making it up as you go along, insisting that your worthless and wrong opinions are worthwhile.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

you're confusing people agreeing with you, with their opinions having worth. Opinions are of equal worth even if one has more people hold it

Antiracist10 ago

No, what gives their opinions worth is that they're experts who have studied it for years. Not like your opinions, where you pull your preconceived conclusions out of your ass.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

nice try moving goal posts If they put forward their research (evidence) that's more than just their opinion, but opinions alone are only worth as much as any other opinion even if there's consensus behind one. Consensus doesn't matter

Antiracist10 ago

My goal post has been to show you an idiot. I've been constantly succeeding.

Yeah buddy, the world's Holocaust historians have only gotten on Voat and said "Eh, I think so." Not like they were required to provide arguments and evidence in peer reviewed journals, or whatever. Nope, there is literally no more evidence to an expert's opinion than him saying so. You got me. In all the world's universities, not a single Holocaust historian has ever put forward any "real" evidence along with their mere opinion. You got me bro, totally no evidence to be found at all for the Holohoax! I know because I asked some guys on Voat instead of trying to contact actual historians.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

you're the fucking idiot, you keep losing arguments and trying to change to different arguments which you also lose. Nice paragraph long goal post shift bait

Antiracist10 ago

Dawg, you have no idea what evidence is or what the value of consensus is.

Ever heard, "Get a second opinion?"

Like, among experts, they are unaware of the diversity of opinion!

But go door to door asking for health advice, since everyone's opinion is the same as a doctor's!

What bizarro world math are you using? God, how do you even survive?

Let's have juries with just one person!

Everyone's opinion is exactly the same and opinion is worthless and the Holocaust didn't happen because I say so and that's how history works and you can't tell me otherwise because my understanding of epistemology is greater than expert's understanding of epistemology because in my opinion I said so so it is!

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

no matter how much you try to move the goal posts, consensus still doesn't matter

Antiracist10 ago

consensus still doesn't matter

At least we found the exact reason why you're an idiot.

NotPolice ago

Here's three questions to help you out.

  1. How long does a cremation chamber take to burn a body?

  2. How much fuel would it take to destroy the 5,900,000+ bodies that we can't find?

  3. What is the most fallible form of evidence, the one that is almost always seen when convictions are overturned years later?

kneo24 ago

The faggot deleted his post only to repost it here:

https://voat.co/v/GreatAwakening/3140875/17855608

He's a slippery one, isn't he?

PacaGoat ago

Obviously you cant read or to stupid to try.

foltaisaprovenshill ago

  1. Does a cremation chamber (even in modern day) burn bones?

4a. If not, where are all these skeletons at?

GodsAngell ago

Dead bodies were dug up and thrown onto open bonfires too. In the beginning when the nazi's thought they would rule the world, they got sloppy and just buried their prisoners. Later when it became apparent they were losing the war and inquiries would be made (Nuremberg?), they rapidly began covering their tracks, forcing prisoners to dig up the dead bodies and throw the bodies onto a huge bon fire.

Records were destroyed.

Buildings blown up.

Bottomline? You have absolutely NO IDEA how many innocent people were murdered by the Germans during WW2, and neither does anyone else......except the Jewish families who know that they lost family members. Have you asked those eye witnesses? No of course not.

THE POINT IS: JEWS WERE ROUNDED UP AND SLAUGHTERED LIKE CATTLE, by definition THAT is a HOLOCAUST!!! When NO Jews were left in Europe, except a handful half starved to death in Concentration Camps, THAT IS A HOLOCAUST!

holocaust (hŏlˈə-kôstˌ, hōˈlə-)►

n.
**Great destruction resulting in the extensive loss of life.**

NotPolice ago

You have absolutely NO IDEA how many innocent people were murdered by the Germans during WW2, and neither does anyone else

So I guess it's around 39,000, the number documented by the red cross? Wow, the jews made out a lot better than all the other ethnicities and peoples.

Peacethroughpower ago

Let's see you get this hysterical about the hundreds of genocides that happened after 1945. Crying on your keyboard wont change minds. Bonfires? Are you even reading what youre writing?

IdoubtIt2 ago

Sooo, they were losing a war, hemorrhaging men (aka dying), the allies cut resources, you’ve got German civilians starving, soldiers starving, dying of disease (no supplies) and short on munitions, and they’re going to devote ducking manpower and resources to “hiding” their bodies? Seriously, this has got to be the silliest excuse I’ve ever heard.

Your post basically amounts to an emotional appeal “but they diiiiiiiiiied!!!!!” Yeah, well, hate to break it to you, but millions upon millions upon millions died in WWII.

Hey, tell me, why is it that you don’t ever hear about the millions killed in soviet Russia? Why don’t they make twenty trillion movies every year about the Holodomor? Do you even know what that is? Let me help: the mostly Jewish bolsheviks literally, yes literally, genocided over 3 million ethnic Ukranians. Why? Good question. Because they hated them. Why did they hate them? Good question, no I’ve really knows. Maybe you should seek out the modern day Bolshevik equivalent on Twitter. Just search for you favorite neighborhood Jew. You’ll see how much they hate wgite people. HATE THEM. If you’re white, guess what? They hate you.

VicariousJambi ago

Sorry for hijacking top comment, but here's some info I think some people need to see.

Why did the Germans build trains, camps, etc, specifically for killing people? Death camps =/= work camps. Why not just put a bullet in their head and skip all of that?

Why was the highest tattoo # in the 200,000s?

Why are there news articles from decades before WW2 that were talking about the 6 million?

https://files.catbox.moe/g97ero.png

https://files.catbox.moe/u91ye8.png

Why has there never been an order found to kill Jews?

Why did Jews declare war on germany before ww2?

https://files.catbox.moe/z3y3e4.png

https://files.catbox.moe/zr4q2q.png

https://files.catbox.moe/was0vz.png

Why do none of the population charts match up?

https://files.catbox.moe/xyk6ve.png

https://files.catbox.moe/j3xgnx.png

https://files.catbox.moe/oe1jqq.png

TL:DR

Heres a documentary to watch thats better than anything I can really post. If you don't LOL at the absurdity of all of this by the first half hour you might have a double digit IQ.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSHf7yOqoUY

Shizy ago

Excellent info! I'm saving all of this. Thank you!

PacaGoat ago

They did put bullets in their heads. Gassing was only one way they murdered. Bullets rape starvation were some of the other means used.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

we haven't found enough mass graves or ashes to account for 6 million regardless of how they were killed

lipids ago

How about The Man In High Castle? I burst out laughing when the sheriff explained why it was raining ash. "They burn gays and cripples this time every week. "

DawnPendraig ago

Well Hitler did love eugenics. He and Margaret Sanger were pen pals and talked of it often.

There are some accounts that the first round ups were the disabled especially those with mental defects. The told their families they were going to a special school to be cared for and not a burden which coming off the depression after WWI in Germany might have meant being able to feed the other family members sad to say.

They were never seen again.

As for homosexuals I have no idea but I cannot imagine it would be seen as less than a mental defect also as it was all over the world at the time.

There are some interesting truths in the Man in the High Castle. I haven't read the book yet as I want to enjoy the show. Sadly as with A Handmaid's Tale, I think most watchers miss the point. The latter was inspired by what was happening to the once free society of Iran when it was taken over by radical Islam. Instead the idiots cry that it's Trump that wants to make them baby incubator slaves, marry off teenage and younger girls as rewards to soldiers en mass and cut off their wives' hands for daring to write. Reading is punished too.

Gorillion ago

Why are there news articles from decades before WW2 that were talking about the 6 million?

How about one from 1897:
https://files.catbox.moe/zj2hsu.jpg

Also, OP. Look up the history of Fascism.
Protip: It started in Italy, in response to exactly the type of shit that's going on right now.

Fascism is our society's immune system in action, fighting off a deadly infection. Weirdly, they are our white blood cells proliferating and fighting to save the rest of the body.

BlkRifleCoffeeCancer ago

Are you saying white blood cells keep the other cells in line which allows the body to grow and prosper?

What happens if you get rid of them?

What type of virus would target them specifically?

CulturalImperialist ago

Why did the Germans build trains, camps, etc, specifically for killing people? Death camps =/= work camps. Why not just put a bullet in their head and skip all of that?

This in particular never sat right with me. Obviously Schindler's list isn't a documentary, but it's represented as a reasonable representation of reality.

At the beginning they are lining up ten men and shooting through them all with one bullet as silly as this is ballistically it shows what an efficient mass execution would look like. Take names, line people up, shoot them.

If the Nazis were absolute sadists and stayed their hand for purely plragmatic reasons because they needed laborers we would expect a 100% purge of everyone who wasn't either a fine physical specimen or had mechanical skills rather than this happening near the end of the war as the third act threat.

solo7 ago

Hitler was enamored with respect for the Arabs/Muslims. The goose step was not his invention it was the step of the Arab armies and they worked with Hitler and supported him in the beginnings of Hitlers career. Thus, those who hate Israel are very akin to those who support the false Palestine narrative. http://www.billionbibles.org/sharia/hitler-muslim-brotherhood.html

Wazhappenin1 ago

True it's strange that the Germans would keep the sick and elderly and children alive just to kill them later with special gas. If a 9mm round is 8 cents today what was it back then? With no regulations no nothing restricting the production of ammo not to mention free labor. This would have saved the Reich a lot of money. Instead they build masterbating machines and dental officies and barracks and showers.

meglomaniac ago

If a 9mm round is 8 cents today what was it back then?

More but point still made.

Wazhappenin1 ago

Was it really? Well I won't be rolling that of the keys anymore. A quick search in quora came up with 42 cents during ww2... well at least there is one important thing in life whose price has gone down.

meglomaniac ago

Just advanced manufacturing processes and access to cheap plentiful steel in peace time alone makes it way cheaper :D

Wazhappenin1 ago

I found this interesting site, the cost of guns during the war

meglomaniac ago

Ooof given the cost difference between the mp40 and the thompson, you can see why they complained about the price.

Wazhappenin1 ago

I'll take 2 Lugers for 26 bucks! . vintage lugers Must be worth thousands. Back in the 89s they didn't check out for under a 1000. The colt 45s back then 15$, they are anywhere from 600- 1000,

meglomaniac ago

Neat

I'm going to assume these prices are the cost during the war, and not adjusted for inflation. Still cool.

Freebee ago

Even Anne Frank’s story is suspect. Why would they transfer anyone or even have medical facilities?

VicariousJambi ago

That and part of it was written in ball point pen.

Which was invented after she died

meglomaniac ago

So this is my argument for what happened to the Jews.

Like all socialists/totaltarian states, you either outright kill the, dissenters/enemies of the state, through democide, or you put them into camps and isolate them for the good of your people.

NAZI Germany did the second option. They were fully functioning labour camps with dentists, a small morgue, doctors, etc.

They were fine for a few years, then what happened?

Germany started to lose the war, and resources were prioritized for wining the war.

The jews in the camps suffered and died, not because they were exterminated en mass ala holocaust, but because they were imprisoned as "enemies of the state" and were allowed to suffer and starve as germany got its ass whooped in the war.

It wasn't willful murder, it was just consequences of losing a world war.

DawnPendraig ago

I saw a great video from Robert Sepehr on this but he calls the "Jews" in charge of the evils " Sabbateans " and he has a book about it called 1666. The date of the Synagogue of Satan's self proclaimed Messiah coming out. They had/have an inverted ten commandments etc.

He talks about these people and how this ties into the creation of Isreal and the Nazis / Hitler. That Hitler and Is real /Zionists had a deal he would ship out German Jews after taking their belongings and "trading in kind" for German products. He claims the real killing at the camps didn't start until after Hitler fled / suicided.

I've never bought the Holocaust is a lie and Hitler a good guy stuff on Voat. Seems to me it happened, numbers were greatly exaggerated or deaths of others conflated including US /Allies locking up German POWs and many of their deaths added in. It also seems unlikely to me Hitler rose from obscurity. I think he had Rothschilds propping him up, creating him even similar to how we got Obama and AOC.

His mother being allegedly Jewish makes me wonder if he wasn't also part of these Sabbateans.

Video:

https://youtu.be/LB5mK5PEgrM

BlueDrache ago

Pretty much this. The Allies themselves, Russia, GBR, USA, bare some responsibility for every death in those camps, though, ultimately, it is the Jew that started all of this, so 100% of the blame belongs squarely on the Jew.

lipids ago

To build on this, the records are built on the accounts of the prisoners. No one dared call their claims bullshit. That's how we got death rollercoasters, skin lampshades, human soap, shrunken heads, gas showers, and more.

Phantom42 ago

Still peddling That the Reich was "socialist" eh?

meglomaniac ago

NSDAP at its core was a socialist state built on the community and state. Its economy, while mixed, was HEAVILY socialistic. I agree with the "3rd option" position, but its also heavily on the left/totaltarian like communism.

Phantom42 ago

No, no it is not. Read the 25 point plan, and Hitler's clarification on Point 17 of the NSDAP 25 points.

The NSDAP STOOD FOR PRIVATE PROPERTY. That alone disqualifies National Socialism as anything leftist in your sense.

meglomaniac ago

Also, like 11 of the 25 point plans are direct socialism/communistic.

Seizing the means of production, seizing heavy industry, outlawing proceeds of capital, etc etc.

Have YOU read the 25 point plan?

meglomaniac ago

"the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the State or the interests of his fellow countrymen. That is the overriding point. The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners." ~Adolf Hitler

2fast4u92 ago

To be fair it had a few Socialist policies. But it was far from Marxism. The Socialist policies it did have were for the purpose of encouraging large families and helping the dirt poor get back to work. But all governments have some sort of Social safety net, and it is certainly wrong to define NatSoc as "socialism" as it was a totally unique form of govt that doesn't fit directly into other categories.

Phantom42 ago

That's the correct position.

I won't deny it had basic "evil socialism", but really... If you can afford to benefit your people why not? Germany certainly could afford it, being free of the Kikery, so... Yeah. It worked.

meglomaniac ago

I also said right in my first paragraph was that I supported the 3rd position of fascism/NSDAP, its still in the triad of authoritarianism/totaltarianism with communism/socialism.

VicariousJambi ago

Fuck I remember something about America bombing their supply lines but I don't have any sources on hand for that, maybe someone else does.

meglomaniac ago

That is my point tbh, they didn't intentionally starve the jewish people, they just prioritized fighting for their life over feeding enemies of the state.

VicariousJambi ago

I was trying to say that the Americans intentionally bombed the supply lines to starve out the camps.

2fast4u92 ago

Both America and Russia bombed the railroads. Not specifically to starve the camps, but to ruin supply transport for the whole country in general.

meglomaniac ago

Oh, that I won't agree with at all, in the slightest.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

read War Is a Racket by Smedley D. Butler. (((Bankers))) run our military and they'd absolutely do that

anamazonslittle ago

By walking backwards?

VicariousJambi ago

Oh yeah I keep forgetting I need to upload it to bitchute, thank you!

RAMASULE ago

Don't forget cucked Canada

KueAnaan ago

Don't take it personally, Canada. We were cucked from 1989 to 2017.

logjam ago

I'll be the one who decides who can fuck my wife tyvm.

E_W86 ago

Hopefully you're not a pimp and she has a say in it LOL.