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Euli ago

Congrats! you've fond the truth of the "trillion billion dollar lie" which is known by many with own mind. In Germany it is not allowed by law to deny it.

In US the truth about it has been revealed e.g. by the "Phoenix Journals", in this case in #39 and #40. You can find it here: http://phoenixsourcedistributors.com/html/j039/ and here: http://phoenixsourcedistributors.com/html/j040/

GodsAngell ago

Well here is a Christian (gentile) Concentration Camp Survivor, Corrie Ten Boom, sharing the delights of the Garden Parties going on at German Concentration Camps. Her father, her sister and her brother all died in the concentration camp. Corrie Ten Boom was scheduled to be executed after 11 months, but through a clerical error, she was suddenly released one week before all the women her age (in their fifties) were to killed, and their bodies burned in the ovens.

Corrie was put into a concentration camp because she and her family hid Jews in Amsterdam during WW2, to help them escape Europe. Her home was called The Hiding Place. At one time they had 30 Jews hiding in their home.

She and her sister went to Ravensbruk. They lived in a barracks that was built for 200 people, but they crammed 700 women into them. They had one meal a day, watery potato soup, with no potatoes. The potatoes just flavored the warm water. That's it. Then they had to work 12 hours a day, dragging away debris from blown up railroads, and assist in rebuilding the railroad tracks (i.e., hard physical labor). Before work each day it took 2 hours to do roll call in the morning, and all the prisoners had to stand in the freezing cold for these two hours in cotton dresses. Every single day, they could smell the smoke of bodies being burned in a huge furnace. Corrie's sister only lasted 10 months before she died. Through the providence of God, Corrie was released by mistake before she was supposed to be put to death the following week along with all the rest of the women her age. The conditions were so harsh the average life expectancy of a concentration camp inmate was about a year.

Corrie Ten Boom a devout Christian broke the laws of the land, which said that Jews were animals and should be rounded up to be killed, (after being worked to death for a year first), just by saving Jewish lives. So Corrie broke Hitler's immoral law, and she suffered for it. The Jews were all at these concentration death camps, just because they were born Jewish or born part Jewish. They did not break any laws, other than being born.

I don't know how many people died in the concentration camps, and neither do you, because the Nazi's did their best to cover their trails, destroying records, digging up bodies and burning them, blowing up buildings, to destroy as much evidence as possible. At lot like Hildabeast would have done, destroying all evidence.

You will also note how wonderfully and lovingly Hitler spoke of the Jews in Mein Kampf. I'm sure because of his attitude toward Jews, you can trust that he treated Jews with the best loving care humanly possible (not). Do the math here.

There was a Holocaust. How many died, no one knows. Schindler, a gentile German Nazi supplier would never have stuck his neck out to save hundreds of Jews, if he didn't know they were about to be killed. He knew what was going on and he blew his wealth to save Jews. Are you saying YOU know more than Schindler and Corrie Ten Boom, sitting in your comfortable chairs in your comfortable homes, thousands of miles and about 80 years away from these events???

Lets get a little TRUTH into your perspectives, shall we, based upon Eye Witness Accounts? Yes the Rothschilds are horrid, and the Rockefellars, and the Soros, etc, but these are just a few people, a few bad apples. Not EVERY Jew is in on these wicked schemes. Lets keep some balance and perspective here.

Listen to this Christian survivor of the German Concentration Death Camp GARDEN PARTIES:

Corrie Ten Boom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrHB_Sp4cJs

700 Club Classics - Corrie Ten Boom - CBN.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux0DCFcn5Xw

Corrie Ten Boom, "How to Forgive"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cfp51vLZb4

Dead bodies were dug up and thrown onto open bonfires too. In the beginning when the nazi's thought they would rule the world, they got sloppy and just buried their dead prisoners in huge pits. Later when it became apparent they were losing the war and inquiries would be made (Nuremberg?), they rapidly began covering their tracks, forcing prisoners to dig up the dead bodies and throw the bodies onto huge bonfires.

Records were destroyed.

Buildings blown up.

Bottomline? You have absolutely NO IDEA how many innocent people were murdered by the Germans during WW2, and neither does anyone else......except the Jewish families who know that they lost family members. Have you asked those eye witnesses? No, of course not.

THE POINT IS: JEWS WERE ROUNDED UP AND SLAUGHTERED LIKE CATTLE, just because they were born Jewish, by definition, THAT is a HOLOCAUST!!! When NO Jews were left in Europe, except a handful half starved to death in Concentration Camps, THAT IS A HOLOCAUST!!!

Definition: holocaust (hŏlˈə-kôstˌ, hōˈlə-)►

Great destruction resulting in the extensive loss of life.

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Rainy-Day-Dream ago

Corrie ten Boom

oy vey look at that nose, weird you can't find any detailed information of her mother, Cornelia Johanna Arnolda ten Boom-Luitingh, enthnic background online. And it's also odd that her father wore the star of david in the camps if he wasn't a jew. You really think you can fool anyone?

GodsAngell ago

Corrie's father wore the star of David because he was in sympathy with the plight of the Jews. As a Christian, he was acutely aware that the Savior of every Christian is a JEW, called Jesus Christ. I'm sure you have heard of this Jew, every Christian nation celebrates his Birth every winter, during a Holiday called Christmas???

Corrie's father thought that if every Gentile wore a yellow star of david too, the Germans would no longer be able to distinguish between Jews and Gentiles. He was correct of course. But people were too afraid of going to concentration camps to do the same, although most Gentiles were in sympathy with the Jews because the Nazi's were so cruel. Even some German soldiers were horrified with what was happening to Jews, so they GAVE Corrie Ten Boom and her family LOTS of German Military Uniforms, to help Jews Escape. They also shoved ration cards under their doors, so Corrie's family could feed the 30 or so Jews hiding in her home. Not every German was a Nazi maniac, it was nice to find out.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

Corrie's father wore the star of David because he was in sympathy with the plight of the Jews.

so the Nazis forced certain prisoners to be marked for identification, yet some guy could just request it and they obliged? If the star was voluntary what would be the point? why would the waste fabric or time meeting silly requests like that for political prisoners during a war? This doesn't add up, while there's a much more reasonable conclusion.

the Savior of every Christian is a JEW

the main holy book of the contemporary "jewish" religion is the talmud. The Talmud has two components; the Mishnah which dates back to approximately 200 AD and the Gemara which dates back to approximately 500 AD, but both certainly after the death of our lord and savior Jesus Christ. Most "jews" alive today, and particularly the ones in Europe that Hitler's put in labor camps, [are Ashkenazim in background]](https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/news/ashkenazi-jewish-ancestry-confirmed-european-by-mtdna-tests/) and not Sephardi. Unlike the Sephardi people, who are the group of people talked about in the old testament who condemned Jesus to death despite his mother being kin to them, the Ashkenazim originate from Babylon where they were devil worshipers and they merely adopted the jewish religion around 8 centuries ago.

Religiously and Ethnically the "jews" of today have nothing to do with Jesus Christ who in the first place was of his father God whom he was himself merely made flesh rather than a jewish person himself.

Corrie's father thought that if every Gentile wore a yellow star of david too, the Germans would no longer be able to distinguish between Jews and Gentiles.

again, why would the Nazis running the camps allow this? it's simply absurd.

But people were too afraid of going to concentration camps to do the same

so not just the stars, but the camps themselves were voluntary? what kind of authoritarian state were they running? if the Nazis were so cruel and oppressive why could this guy do as he liked? why didn't the jews do the converse as him and simply just claim not to be jews if the Nazis would simply take his word for it? not adding up.

so they GAVE Corrie Ten Boom and her family LOTS of German Military Uniforms, to help Jews Escape

"...and then everyone clapped" seriously isn't any of this strikingly too good to be true? where's the proof any of this actually happened?

They also shoved ration cards under their doors, so Corrie's family could feed the 30 or so Jews hiding in her home

so not merely the star or the camps, but the Nazi regime wasn't even keeping close tabs on rations? During a war? They'd regularly redeem dozens of extra tickets and raise no suspicions? have you ever once asked any questions? do you listen and believe Trump's alleged sexual assault victims as well?

EmXPpatriot ago

**isn't any of this strikingly too good to be true? **

No - it's not too good to be true.**** The Ten Boom family were locked on to their spiritual lives, they prayed, studied the Bible and trusted Jesus with everything. The work they did of hiding the Jews was an open secret - even the town's police chief knew what they were doing. Food cards were stolen and given to them. Uniforms were given to them because, like what GodsAngell said, not everyone supported what was happening.

I would attribute their success to God answering their prayers. Not only that, their family was highly-connected in the town they lived in and there was a network of people who were working with them (mainly Corrie's brother) transporting Jews out of the town and getting them out of the country. I believe in Jesus as God; he does have the power to orchestrate these things that cannot be explained. The only proof we have that this happened is Corrie Ten Boom's story that she's written. She even states that the reason she wrote the story was so that she could use it to tell others about the love of God. The town's people who knew her & her family can (and have) testified that it did take place. If you go to Holland today - their house is still there and you can go in & tour it. https://www.corrietenboom.com/en/home

Corrie wrote a book called The Hiding Place, it was made into a movie. In the movie, they show the dad lining up to register with the Jews to receive the star. I think this is only in the movie as I cannot find it in the book (as of this typing).

I am open to reading about the truth of the holocaust but I will tell you this, I would like an honest set of facts so that I can make up my own mind. We might NEVER get an honest account of our history. There is plenty of information about 9/11 to say whether or not there were planes, etc. but if our history is doctored, who can I trust? For me the jury is out on this for now.

**As far as Jesus is concerned **- I believe in the New Testament writings, specifically in the book of Revelation where it says (and I paraphrase) that God is not done with the Jewish people yet even thought they reject Jesus as the Messiah. Even though they do not recognize Jesus as the Messiah - they will in the future. There are several instances in the Bible where God the Father says "Israel will be redeemed."

As Q has posted that they are "saving Israel for last" I can't imagine that they are going to do something that involves Trump's daughter since she & Trump's grandkids are Jewish. Why would he allow or do anything weird to hurt her or the religion she's attached to? "Saving Israel for last" could mean anything right now. If he declares that he's going to help them build the temple on the temple mount next to the dome of the rock mosque - then the poop will hit the fan because that is the sign of the Anti-Christ.

Also, regarding Jesus, he was a practicing Jew. He celebrated the Passover, Hanukkah and was in the synagogues on Saturdays preaching & teaching from the scrolls. He came to fulfill the Old Testament Law and Prophets not to abolish them. And he did so, although the Jewish leaders of his time did not recognize what he was doing nor did they acknowledge him as the Messiah. They accused him of blasphemy & that lead to him dying on the cross. But that was the plan all along because God willed it & he came to die for the sins of man.

Both of Jesus' earthly "parents" descend from the line of King David - Mary's father's can trace his lineage to David's son, Nathan. Joseph's father's lineage can be traced to David's son, Solomon. Both of Jesus' earthly "parents" were devout Jews. The history of Jesus descending from Adam is explicitly laid out in the Old and New Testaments.

The Jews will be redeemed and they will recognize Jesus as the Christ - I would tread lightly when speaking of God's chosen people. I am not saying they are automatically good or that we need to put them on a pedestal - for all have fallen short of the glory of God and no one is righteous, not one- but their future has yet to be reconciled and it's through their line that we trace ourselves back to Adam, it's through them we get our Bible, it's through them Jesus is born/died and is resurrected. Have there been bad Jewish people - yes. Are their bad Jewish people today - yes. Is Zionism the right religion - I don't think so because I believe in Jesus as the Messiah. Every one - Jew or Gentile is called, right now, to repent of their sins and put their trust in Jesus as Lord and Savior. There is no "us" and "them" we all have a sin problem and we all need Jesus.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

The work they did of hiding the Jews was an open secret - even the town's police chief knew what they were doing.

again we're talking about an authoritarian state that supposedly systematically killed 6 million people. ow were the german's competent efficient mass murderers who went to war on multiple fronts and for most of the war were winning, but also so bumbling and lenient that they'd allow anything you're talking about? such plot holes only persist in works of fiction

The only proof we have that this happened is Corrie Ten Boom's story that she's written.

right, and first hand accounts aren't reliable evidence.

In the movie, they show the dad lining up to register with the Jews to receive the star.

right but why would they let him have it? and if he could get away with this why didn't jewish men and women refuse to get the star? you think the Nazi's wouldn't have checked if he was jewish? then how did they track down other jews?

would like an honest set of facts so that I can make up my own mind.

read the link that @strayzie posted at the top, watch documentaries like the greatest story never told, etc. look up the counter arguments to what they put forward, teach the controversy and learn the facts.

he was a practicing Jew

sure, but the jewish religion of today's main holy book is the talmud which was compiled hundreds of years after he died. In fact it mentions Jesus and says that he's in hell buring in a cauldron of semen and excrement, and I don't think he believed that. Spiritually it's a completely different religion that when he was alive.

Both of Jesus' earthly "parents" descend from the line of King David

but none of the Ashkenazim jews of today can, they are the self appointed 13th tribe of israel who came from babylon and adopted the jewish religion, the Sephardi people also still exist today they're separate ethnic groups genetically.