No. He made poor business decisions and got in bed with a private investor, which was subsequently bought by a prominent jew-owned investment conglomerate. Since Voat is extremely anti-jew (for obvious reasons), he was forced to distance himself from this project and abandoned it entirely, instead moving onto whatever EDON.GARDEN is, as his next project.
Voat's trademark has already expired and the voat.co/about page already shows EDON.GARDEN as owning the existing IP, and EDON.GARDEN is listed on the technology investment page for https://imperialfamily.com/
Most likey scenario is Justin and his team, who all abandoned Voat almost a year ago now, handed it off to a janitor - or possibly even just gave it to the feds to continue to monitor the dissident users here under project POGO's data collection program.
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So when the epstiens were coming who set up the defenses ie set up needing to register to access the site shutting down and then later opening up acct registrations
Of course it's a honeypot, I've always said it was. It's kind of obvious. lol
Back in the old days, they'd talk about how you just don't pay your phone bill and you'll see if the government is tapping your phone, the phone company will not disconnect you.
It’s funny the current About as located at the bottom of this page is not the same as that page you linked.
Why is it funny and why does it matter? Different pages are used for different Voat software releases, and we've recently rolled BACKWARDS to previous versions without the more burdensome DDOS protection.
This isn't an argument when the evidence of the claim still exists for all to see.
Donations are accepted via bitcoin through coinbase: https://www.coinbase.com/voat. If you mention your username while donating, we'll make sure you get a badge on your voat profile as a small token of gratitude.
Notice COINBASE donations? How long ago was that active on Voat?
So umm yeah I don't think the edon page is the most up to date.
I think it is also important to understand that I stumbled on that page while looking at old Amalek threads, as he/she was before my time and I was bored and then clicked the about page and noticed that edon thing.
I was the one who archived it in Dec last year.
I also noticed that edon is in the code but we have gitbub code to support why this is so...https://github.com/gbuilt/edon-http
Putts said he is the only one with the keys, why don't you believe him?
I am pretty sure @Deshy or SandHog or any of your SBBH group gets a free pass.
The fuck? Is it any wonder why I stopped participating on Voat? Damned if I do and damned if I don't. For all the horseshit sbbh gets up it's equally bad to accuse innocent people of things that they didn't do. That's the one lesson I have learned from all of this. Perhaps the reason I got caught up in the log was because I was defending the moderators of PG and GA. That's all I've ever done. If there is anything I understand and know about Voat is that @Vindicator and @Crensch (and by proxy srayzie) are legit and that those two subs have been unfairly targeted. I have always supported them in that.
As far as I am concerned, SandHog is likely kevdude's proxy. Perhaps, why he got caught up in the log was not just an accident.
Fuck kevdude and the protectvoat nonsense. That shit is cancer. If any sub on the entire site should be made a system sub; it's that one. Sbbh is also cancer. It's only the other side of the coin. And, apparently, fuck me for attempting to bridge the divide and find some common ground in order to learn the truth in all of this stuff. I've not ever done anything to the detriment of Voat other than to try and figure out what the hell is going on. I do think that there is some serious fuckery going on but it will never be uncovered so long as it's 'defeat the opposition at all costs'.
As far as I am concerned, SandHog is likely kevdude's proxy. Perhaps, why he got caught up in the log was not just an accident.
Know what the failure point of internet investigations is? Context. I could sit here right now and illustrate how @argosciv is a traitorous piece of shit whose only goal is to destroy Voat. I don't believe that is true and I would never do that but I could very easily frame things that way if I so chose Anyone could; for anyone else. I've never been anything other than myself on here. Believe that or not; I could give a fuck less at this point.
All I can say is that I tried to bridge a gap and find the truth in all of this. That's more than most of you can claim (on both sides). Better stock up on toilet paper. You're gonna need it. I don't give a shit about this stuff anymore.
None of that addressed the point I raised, just more sbbh golem reeeeing.
Where's proof that someone else but Putt had the keys to alter that page ?
Since :
[–]PuttItOut 12 points (+12|-0) 2 months ago
This is 100% proof.
You should look up what 100% and word "proof" mean.
Like an alt cares, rather just loves concern fagging, but everything is as it was, data is still private, website is still temperamental and a pain in the ass, and I'm still the only one with the keys (unfortunately). :)
That's also why I haven't made any posts about & just prefer to look at who's trying to drive a narrative with this info.
Seeing a group like that proclaim they've debunked it all when they rely on a supposition that directly contradicts what Putt has said makes me wonder what their motivations are.
This is not true. He still claims to be at the helm. Search his comment history, the one and only comment he has made in the past year was in response to my post under my alt breaking this whole story wide open. He specifically says that he is still the one running things.
educated speculation based upon simple correlation of all of the above.
you can find more direct evidence on PIA's twitter pages - at the same time as that putt's VPN promotion they had exactly the same thing: photos of hands with a sign "fuck censorship" - not directly PIA but twitter pages of their promotors. You can still see tag here https://twitter.com/buyvpnservice/status/1174458108443336710
I can't find those promotor guys any more, those were like "normal everyday guy" accounts, promoting PIA.
There is one flaw in everything they wrote. It assumes PIA was the Angel Investor. Also someone logged in as PuttItOut spoke to me a few weeks ago on Voat chat and he referenced his favourite meme correctly. Of course it could always be someone that did their research.
When? I've only seen pathetic arguments by Putt alts like PeaceSeeker which don't disprove anything, they just make baseless claims with zero evidence. What's your evidence that EDON.GARDEN, which is outright posted on http://voat.co/about at the bottom of the page and resides in Voat code, while also being listed on the investor page for https://imperialfamily.com/ is untrue?
I already did. Multiple times. You've never denied any of them, and you and all the other jew worshiping pieces of shit use this same bullshit strategy every time when presented with the evidence. It gets so tiresome.
KAPE is partnered with London Trust Media (AKA Andrew Lee, the suspected Voat "Angel") in aquiring VPN and similar "privacy" technologies. http://www.londontrustmedia.com/
PIA invested in Voat, which explains the PIA advertising and the whole "take a picture with your Voat username for a VPN!" promotion in the past. This is the only thing that has no direct evidence and is educated speculation based upon simple correlation of all of the above.
It's really not complicated. Anyone can see for themselves. Why do you bother trying to lie about this?
Second one has a bunch of additional evidence gathered by @MadWorld, as I recall.
The whole narrative is gay fearporn. They keep linking to a defunct page that has not been accessible from Voat since July 13, except in their hit jobs. None of them can explain how they found that page, either.
It's buried in deeply nested comments and pm's. Sufficient to say they cooked it up using old unused page(s). Narrative is shit and has no leg to stand on. No need to waste any more energy on it, especially seeing that I was right about the parties pushing it being the 'conglomerate' of SBBH, PV/Kev, rPV/Amalek, Nomo, ES & co.
If they even believed their own horseshit, they'd have left the site long ago when they tried this under their previous narrative iteration(s). But they don't, so they haven't and won't.
Also says plenty that they're using antagonistic alts to push it, that this is a disingenuous effort aimed at 2 target audiences; us (to rile us up), and certain other folks who'll react predictably to any mention of jews out of habit (however warranted at times or otherwise). To repeat, it is so not worth wasting our time and energy on. I'm closing the book on this one.
Like I said, it's targeted at people who just upvote anything that is 'against jews', so some of those upvotes won't necessarily be vote manipulation, unless of course you count the use of manipulative narratives (preying on bias) to farm upvotes... /shrug
I mean, I get it, there's plenty of reason for some of it, but these guys pushing this narrative are just playing a tune they know others will dance to without taking the time to look at the particulars (like we did) in order to ascertain the legitimacy of the narrative.
Again, of course, if they truly believe the site is compromised, they'll make for the exit.
You can bet someone within this submission is connected and/or works for (((KAPE / Edon Garden))). They are working very hard pushing this bullshit "Voat is compromised" narrative and that PIA is Voat's investor.
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If this information is untrue, Putt himself has it within his power to prove me wrong and I will recant my claims when given proper evidence. I don't think he will, so here we are.
Your arguments are not evidence. They appear to be jew damage control.
I love it when people get questions like this and they suddenly dissapear and it's like the thread never happened. They don't realize how deafening that silence is.
If multiple people, strangers even, separately, told me that my friends and associates were sincerely suspected of being pedophiles, then I would be extremely concerned instead of just laughing it off.
I wonder how many people laughed off Epstein. Probably nothing I'm sure.
If enough people repeat the same thing in unison without ever presenting a single shred of undeniable evidence, it's called psychological manipulation, not factual accusations.
cransch is crensch and banned from many subverses. He has lots of socks. You've probably gotten the 5-7 instant downvotes from his socks. Maybe cointel.
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH YOU THINK WE HAVE RULES HERE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH YOU ACTUALLY THINK THE DOZENS OF SPOOF ACCOUNTS I’VE CATALOGED WILL EVER BE BANNED HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA NEXT YOU’LL SAY THE LITERAL PAID SHILL SPAMBOTS WILL BE BANNED AND THEIR URLS BLACKLISTED LOL
1 This account is not a spoof, does not interact with the user you are thinking of in any way, and does not pretend to be the user you are thinking of.. ever. In fact, I'm against the entire Qew bullshit in it's entirely but that didn't develop until after I ran into them far after the account was created.
2 The fact that this account still exists, as do dozens of other spoofs, are absolute proof the rules you think exist don't even matter anymore and you're a fool for playing pretend.
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Cransch ago
No. He made poor business decisions and got in bed with a private investor, which was subsequently bought by a prominent jew-owned investment conglomerate. Since Voat is extremely anti-jew (for obvious reasons), he was forced to distance himself from this project and abandoned it entirely, instead moving onto whatever EDON.GARDEN is, as his next project.
Voat's trademark has already expired and the voat.co/about page already shows EDON.GARDEN as owning the existing IP, and EDON.GARDEN is listed on the technology investment page for https://imperialfamily.com/
Most likey scenario is Justin and his team, who all abandoned Voat almost a year ago now, handed it off to a janitor - or possibly even just gave it to the feds to continue to monitor the dissident users here under project POGO's data collection program.
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TooMuchCoffeeMan ago
Lol dissident users. They give internet neets way too much credit. 1/3rd cant pay for the revolution 1/3rd is too lazy and 1/3rd doesnt care.
Porn is great though.
Notalljuice ago
So when the epstiens were coming who set up the defenses ie set up needing to register to access the site shutting down and then later opening up acct registrations
Cransch ago
Why do you think it's called a "playpen" on the Maintenance error code page?
Notalljuice ago
You lost me i dont know what your getting at
Glipglup ago
I'm sure calling ourselves goats is totally benign.
HiJoker ago
Of course it's a honeypot, I've always said it was. It's kind of obvious. lol
Back in the old days, they'd talk about how you just don't pay your phone bill and you'll see if the government is tapping your phone, the phone company will not disconnect you.
Deshy ago
It’s funny the current About as located at the bottom of this page is not the same as that page you linked.
You know this right?
https://voat.co/content/about
Cransch ago
Why is it funny and why does it matter? Different pages are used for different Voat software releases, and we've recently rolled BACKWARDS to previous versions without the more burdensome DDOS protection.
This isn't an argument when the evidence of the claim still exists for all to see.
Deshy ago
Hold on if we are rolled back then your telling my the edon.garden page is more up to date? Is this what you are saying?
Cransch ago
That's what I'm suggesting, yes. Makes sense, since the earliest archive of that page (that I've seen) is around Q1 of 2019.
Deshy ago
Okay I believe the edon page to be older.
The reason why I say this is because when you look at the page: https://archive.fo/JOfUn
It has an extra part to it:
Donations
Notice COINBASE donations? How long ago was that active on Voat?
So umm yeah I don't think the edon page is the most up to date.
I think it is also important to understand that I stumbled on that page while looking at old Amalek threads, as he/she was before my time and I was bored and then clicked the about page and noticed that edon thing.
I was the one who archived it in Dec last year.
I also noticed that edon is in the code but we have gitbub code to support why this is so...https://github.com/gbuilt/edon-http
Putts said he is the only one with the keys, why don't you believe him?
https://voat.co/v/whatever/3601555/22065758
I think you have no actual proof and your speculation in a time of anxiousness is rather questionable...
You are clearly an alt, so when you are free to speak to me as the real you, drop me a pm.
Okay thanks!
@sandhog @madworld
Rotteuxx ago
...dudette...
The only counter evidence presented by MW and the damage control crew rests solely on one supposition, that someone else but Putt has the keys.
https://voat.co/v/whatever/3701507/22865907/10#22865907/
MadWorld ago
I am pretty sure @Deshy or @SandHog or any of your SBBH group gets a free pass.
As far as I am concerned, @SandHog is likely kevdude's proxy. Perhaps, why he got caught up in the log was not just an accident.
SandHog ago
The fuck? Is it any wonder why I stopped participating on Voat? Damned if I do and damned if I don't. For all the horseshit sbbh gets up it's equally bad to accuse innocent people of things that they didn't do. That's the one lesson I have learned from all of this. Perhaps the reason I got caught up in the log was because I was defending the moderators of PG and GA. That's all I've ever done. If there is anything I understand and know about Voat is that @Vindicator and @Crensch (and by proxy srayzie) are legit and that those two subs have been unfairly targeted. I have always supported them in that.
Fuck kevdude and the protectvoat nonsense. That shit is cancer. If any sub on the entire site should be made a system sub; it's that one. Sbbh is also cancer. It's only the other side of the coin. And, apparently, fuck me for attempting to bridge the divide and find some common ground in order to learn the truth in all of this stuff. I've not ever done anything to the detriment of Voat other than to try and figure out what the hell is going on. I do think that there is some serious fuckery going on but it will never be uncovered so long as it's 'defeat the opposition at all costs'.
Know what the failure point of internet investigations is? Context. I could sit here right now and illustrate how @argosciv is a traitorous piece of shit whose only goal is to destroy Voat. I don't believe that is true and I would never do that but I could very easily frame things that way if I so chose Anyone could; for anyone else. I've never been anything other than myself on here. Believe that or not; I could give a fuck less at this point.
All I can say is that I tried to bridge a gap and find the truth in all of this. That's more than most of you can claim (on both sides). Better stock up on toilet paper. You're gonna need it. I don't give a shit about this stuff anymore.
Rotteuxx ago
None of that addressed the point I raised, just more sbbh golem reeeeing.
Where's proof that someone else but Putt had the keys to alter that page ?
Since :
Deshy ago
Well supposition doesn’t cut the mustard. I’d rather say less, and be sure then spout endlessly about this stuff and not have concrete evidence.
We can go round and round but ultimately we do not know what happened with that page.
Whether he implemented code and it rewrote some pages that are not used, I honestly do not know.
Rotteuxx ago
Exactly.
That's also why I haven't made any posts about & just prefer to look at who's trying to drive a narrative with this info.
Seeing a group like that proclaim they've debunked it all when they rely on a supposition that directly contradicts what Putt has said makes me wonder what their motivations are.
CoronavirusPatient0 ago
This is not true. He still claims to be at the helm. Search his comment history, the one and only comment he has made in the past year was in response to my post under my alt breaking this whole story wide open. He specifically says that he is still the one running things.
mxcviel ago
your last point:
you can find more direct evidence on PIA's twitter pages - at the same time as that putt's VPN promotion they had exactly the same thing: photos of hands with a sign "fuck censorship" - not directly PIA but twitter pages of their promotors. You can still see tag here https://twitter.com/buyvpnservice/status/1174458108443336710
I can't find those promotor guys any more, those were like "normal everyday guy" accounts, promoting PIA.
Cransch ago
Thanks, I'll add that in.
mxcviel ago
ok :)
recon_johnny ago
WTF is edon.garden about?
Cransch ago
I updated my OP for you. Lays it all out.
Crensch ago
Debunked horseshit.
gabara ago
There is one flaw in everything they wrote. It assumes PIA was the Angel Investor. Also someone logged in as PuttItOut spoke to me a few weeks ago on Voat chat and he referenced his favourite meme correctly. Of course it could always be someone that did their research.
Nosfewratsjews ago
When? I've only seen pathetic arguments by Putt alts like PeaceSeeker which don't disprove anything, they just make baseless claims with zero evidence. What's your evidence that EDON.GARDEN, which is outright posted on http://voat.co/about at the bottom of the page and resides in Voat code, while also being listed on the investor page for https://imperialfamily.com/ is untrue?
When the fuck did you start defending the jews?
Cransch ago
Prove it.
Crensch ago
Prove your claims. That which can be presented without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
Cransch ago
I already did. Multiple times. You've never denied any of them, and you and all the other jew worshiping pieces of shit use this same bullshit strategy every time when presented with the evidence. It gets so tiresome.
It's really not complicated. Anyone can see for themselves. Why do you bother trying to lie about this?
Crensch ago
@Madworld, @argosciv,@Vindicator
Do y'all have that link handy where you destroyed this narrative?
Vindicator ago
Sorry. Didn't see that ping this morning.
You mean this one?
Or this one?
Second one has a bunch of additional evidence gathered by @MadWorld, as I recall.
The whole narrative is gay fearporn. They keep linking to a defunct page that has not been accessible from Voat since July 13, except in their hit jobs. None of them can explain how they found that page, either.
argosciv ago
It's buried in deeply nested comments and pm's. Sufficient to say they cooked it up using old unused page(s). Narrative is shit and has no leg to stand on. No need to waste any more energy on it, especially seeing that I was right about the parties pushing it being the 'conglomerate' of SBBH, PV/Kev, rPV/Amalek, Nomo, ES & co.
If they even believed their own horseshit, they'd have left the site long ago when they tried this under their previous narrative iteration(s). But they don't, so they haven't and won't.
Also says plenty that they're using antagonistic alts to push it, that this is a disingenuous effort aimed at 2 target audiences; us (to rile us up), and certain other folks who'll react predictably to any mention of jews out of habit (however warranted at times or otherwise). To repeat, it is so not worth wasting our time and energy on. I'm closing the book on this one.
@Vindicator @MadWorld @PuttItOut
MadWorld ago
Another wave of vote manipulation just arrived. On the bright side, I can collect those shit accounts :-)
argosciv ago
No kidding... they hit your above comment with a -1 in under 4.6 mins.
MadWorld ago
Notice the ratio of highest comment upvotes and the submission upvotes. They are not even hiding, nice the spikes.
argosciv ago
Like I said, it's targeted at people who just upvote anything that is 'against jews', so some of those upvotes won't necessarily be vote manipulation, unless of course you count the use of manipulative narratives (preying on bias) to farm upvotes... /shrug
I mean, I get it, there's plenty of reason for some of it, but these guys pushing this narrative are just playing a tune they know others will dance to without taking the time to look at the particulars (like we did) in order to ascertain the legitimacy of the narrative.
Again, of course, if they truly believe the site is compromised, they'll make for the exit.
argosciv ago
Was that you who just created a queue of 900+ jobs on archive.is? xD
MadWorld ago
XD Shhh...
Vindicator ago
That's hilarious :-)
argosciv ago
Fucking funny cunt, I had to wait that whole queue out just to get the above-linked archive xD
MadWorld ago
I might have to go and wrap something else up, not very good at multitasking. Plus, this submission is very much cooked and overrun by shit accounts.
Cransch ago
Kiss the fork in the office for me.
argosciv ago
I gotta head out for several hours soon myself. Just doing a morning, just-woke-up, check in.
MadWorld ago
You can bet someone within this submission is connected and/or works for (((KAPE / Edon Garden))). They are working very hard pushing this bullshit "Voat is compromised" narrative and that PIA is Voat's investor.
Discussion can be found in this thread:
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Cransch ago
If this information is untrue, Putt himself has it within his power to prove me wrong and I will recant my claims when given proper evidence. I don't think he will, so here we are.
Your arguments are not evidence. They appear to be jew damage control.
Morbos ago
Declaring everything is SBBH every time you cannot disprove the claims is so transparent, and as posted by Cransch - tiresome to the rest of us.
Glipglup ago
Literally makes new account so we don't know you're SBBH
Kikes aren't clever
MadWorld ago
Another shit alt.
Rotteuxx ago
What about me ?
Am I a shit alt for smelling bullshit coming from your crew ?
Glipglup ago
I love it when people get questions like this and they suddenly dissapear and it's like the thread never happened. They don't realize how deafening that silence is.
Rotteuxx ago
It's always like that when you push these shills.
Same here :
https://voat.co/v/whatever/3701507/22865907/10#22865907/
Glipglup ago
SSBH is a faggot sub run by literal pedophiles for the record.
Also putt never existed.
Rotteuxx ago
The I guess I'm a top 10 pedophile shill :)
Glipglup ago
If multiple people, strangers even, separately, told me that my friends and associates were sincerely suspected of being pedophiles, then I would be extremely concerned instead of just laughing it off.
I wonder how many people laughed off Epstein. Probably nothing I'm sure.
Rotteuxx ago
If enough people repeat the same thing in unison without ever presenting a single shred of undeniable evidence, it's called psychological manipulation, not factual accusations.
antiracistMetal ago
He confidently proclaimed this law of epistemology, giving no justification for it, negating itself.
@bojangles @eagleshigh @sarmegahhikkitha
Whydotheycallthem9s ago
You got pretty close. Still missing one key fact.
Cransch ago
Which is?
NOMOCHOMO ago
puttitout never existed.
Whydotheycallthem9s ago
Yup.
TheManyHands ago
cransch is crensch and banned from many subverses. He has lots of socks. You've probably gotten the 5-7 instant downvotes from his socks. Maybe cointel.
Cransch ago
Evidence of this claim?
Slipstream ago
Simple, Cransch and Crensch are only one letter apart. QED
Cransch ago
Must take a super secret Qew decoder ring to figure out.
PuttitoutIsGone ago
cransch got me.
Israel-Did-9-11 ago
Kike Angel Investors are a thing
WhiteEgret ago
Every, single time.
Tor1 ago
A kikel is just a circle in Allamania. Vas ist in dem strueddels? They were playing tictacgodot or suchen. Cat got all 6 million games again.
CoronavirusPatient0 ago
I should have saved that pile of hair from yesterday
KatTheHun ago
He gets me every time. Lol
Cransch ago
Too bad I missed your original reply.
clamhunt_legbeard ago
Spoofing is a banable offense.
ExpertShitposter ago
always upvote spoof
clamhurt_legbeard_ ago
LOL you got me.
Tallest_Skil ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH YOU THINK WE HAVE RULES HERE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH YOU ACTUALLY THINK THE DOZENS OF SPOOF ACCOUNTS I’VE CATALOGED WILL EVER BE BANNED HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA NEXT YOU’LL SAY THE LITERAL PAID SHILL SPAMBOTS WILL BE BANNED AND THEIR URLS BLACKLISTED LOL
Tallest_Spill ago
It's like you can see the brain aneurysm.
Tallest_Skil ago
Oh good, another one to report.
clamhurt_legbeard_ ago
REPORTED
Cransch ago
1 This account is not a spoof, does not interact with the user you are thinking of in any way, and does not pretend to be the user you are thinking of.. ever. In fact, I'm against the entire Qew bullshit in it's entirely but that didn't develop until after I ran into them far after the account was created.
2 The fact that this account still exists, as do dozens of other spoofs, are absolute proof the rules you think exist don't even matter anymore and you're a fool for playing pretend.
Enjoy.
Tallest_Skil ago
It is, though. It explicitly exists to masquerade as another account. This isn’t allowed.
Doesn’t matter.
Literally does.
Cransch ago
Keep pretending your rules matter, it's comical to watch your cognitive dissonance. Wild West, remember?
Idiot.
Tallest_Skil ago
lol, try reading again
Cry harder, coward.
clamhunt_legbeard ago
That's exactly what I told @clamhurt_legbeard!
Cransch ago
Because we're the same person, obviously.
clamhunt_legbeard ago
Like Gods.
Cransch ago
Close enough to what a real God would be.