What can be done? VITAL CHART proves that VOAT IS DYING and 33% of people and postings LEFT in the last 12 months! WHY is voat DYING? How can we make voat grow or stop dying? This is dire! Help! (AskVoat)

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What can be done? VITAL CHART proves that VOAT IS DYING and 33% of people and postings LEFT in the last 12 months! WHY is voat DYING? How can we make voat grow or stop dying? This is dire! Help!

Lower IQ users on voat.co (I think of them as "normies") will downvote the facts below but...

VOAT IS DYING! 30% less participation!

I feel very sad at the following numbers :

Month Submissions Comments
January 60,381 631,360
February 56,315 574,126
March 63,072 668,687
April 57,396 588,857
May 60,095 592,558
June 53,702 541,785
July 51,817 486,214
August 45,524 433,146
September 42,619 375,510
October 43,528 370,285
November 46,996 397,677
December 44,530 400,020
Total 625,975 6,060,225

Graph: Posts per month

Graph: Posts per day

source : https://voat.co/v/VoatStatistics/3587597

Some blame the paranoid feeling when the site says "what did YOU do?" and think voat.co is blaming them and blocking them in timeout perhaps.

Over half the higher IQ people have possibly left voat, as such people actively flee perceived groups of "normies" in psychology papers and books covering high IQ.

That flight will always happen regardless without a regular influx of preferentially higher IQ people.

Voat.co is very high IQ now, but it was much higher, years ago.

Evidence?

I say it based solely on the actual scientists in the far past commenting in v/Science and the actual highly skilled engineers commenting in v/Technology in the far past.

The fleeing poindexters and smartypants creates a death spiral that chases off more and more eggheads.

It used to be called "MySpace" effect, or the "Digg" effect, and now termed the "Reddit" effect. High IQ people migrate to web sites offering higher intellectual discourse.

The_Donald exodus from Reddit to here could have quadrupled voat or far far more, but toxic attacks via gay male porn flooded v/TheDonald, and they went and created a "censoring" site 10 times larger than voat called https://thedonald.win/

v/QRV, v/GreatAwakening, and v/TheAwakening brought up IQ level a bunch, but it could have been more if less overall fights and cliques.

Toxic anti-Q anti-"boomer" anti-Trump rhetoric by disenchanters has its effect in killing voat too.

It is common among primates and humans to gang up and bond together tormenting chosen group members.

The relentless attacks on Q by older goats here is unwarranted, though sometimes funny in the NPC context this year.

A few of the older goats seem to enjoy antagonizing "QTards" "Boomers" "Political heads" "Qoomers" "Knowitalls" "Qfags" etc that were flooding into their formerly semi-static space.

A token tiny percentage of Q members on v/QRV could not handle "niggerfaggot" and "kike" but for all I know, they were voat false flag plants to draw anger towards Q. I myslef had Q subversive accounts created on standby.

v/milliondollarextreme came and then went, as other reddit failed migrations dwindled.

Well I hope everyone is happy with keeping voat.co smaller and stagnating... in fact SHRINKING!

What are ideas to get users to voat without accidentally letting any real world people know you use voat personally (doxx risk). Shill the link on other sites? Shill voat.co?

I bet the ratio of CIA glowniggers to non-glowniggers is now at an all time high on voat. Hello Mr. Fed !

NOTHING else out there is as good as voat.co, or offers true FREE SPEECH as voat. I like voat.co as much as anyone, but I can read a death spiral chart.

Voat.co is DYING!

That data in that chart is legitimate and REAL.

Other sites might be enticing users away, that do not mind semi-censoring pig admins that infest these :

https://boards.4chan.org/pol/

https://www.16chan.xyz/pol/

https://www.dailystormer.name

https://endchan.org

https://nein<<removethis>>chan.com

https://notabug.io/t/all

https://nab.cx (light censorship for front page only of https://notabug.io/t/all)

https://phuks.co/

https://poal.co/

https://vnnforum.com/

http://niggermania.net/forum/ (good discussion of events on http://newnation.org/)

Who knows? All I know is the numbers in the charts do not lie. Voat.co lost 30% of its messages per day in one year of steady decline.

HOW CAN VOAT get back the 33% missing users?

HOW CAN WE BUILD UP VOAT.co?

If voat.co keeps dying from high IQ people fleeing, and Share Blue invading, I dislike the other semi-free-speech sites enough, that I feel I will just read it for v/Funny and v/News posts, not comments, and hate the universe.

THIS SUCKS SO BAD, and its so sad.

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Rasimov ago

I've had an account since alpha. I barely comment since for the most part there is rarely anything worth commenting on. It's just the same low effort shit over and over again, and a good portion of it is easily shown to be wrong if you took two seconds to google it.

Also, even though it doesn't seem that hard to do, reaching the vote threshold to have an impact on the content is hard to reach when it seems like the vast majority of the content on here is propaganda and idiots posting 4chan level posts while missing the irony of 4chan.

So, might be entirely wrong here, but VOAT is super non-friendly to new users and most content is probably created and up-voated by people with alt-accounts and bots.

chirogonemd ago

I think there is just a collective realization happening that all of our talk is pretty much bullshit. We say the same things over and over again, while the same things keep happening over and over again, and the rest of society parrots the same responses over and over again. The cycle keeps turning and all of our shit posting doesn't truly move the needle - therefore, it's getting boring.

Myself, I'm finding it harder and harder to get here and want to bitch about Jews continually. I've done it, and it is losing its significance. What I'm really getting at, is until something actually starts happening, people start doing something more significant than talking, it's just felt sillier lately to return to the same chamber to shout the same things. All of the so called "meme wars" and we are still about to walk right into Iran. Perhaps the better way of saying all of this, is I think the collective realization is starting to fall on the real stakes. All of the online chatter is starting to seem insubstantial compared with what reality is probably actually going to demand for anything to change.

ardvarcus ago

We say the same things over and over again,

At least we are saying it. Nobody, or almost nobody, else is. If we repeat it over and over, it's because it is important and bears repeating in the hope that some normies will get a clue and come back to reality.

Rasimov ago

The thing is, you're not saying anything. VOAT is just a giant circle jerk of the same thing over and over again and the only people really listening are the same people posting the exact same shit. VOAT accidentally created this protective bubble so people on here think they are being heard and accepted. They aren't, next to no one is hearing you.

VOAT is a tiny microcosm. There is no actual discourse here for the most part. It just mainly people spewing the same stupid shit over and over again.

There is barely any actual content here.

antiliberalsociety ago

just a giant circlejerk

Kind of like your comments here, you aren't really saying anything. You're just repeating your message of "whaa, VOAT SUX!"

Rasimov ago

Just look at the front page, it's just people posting bullshit idiotic shit all of the time. Posts will latch onto one conspiracy theory topic for a while and then something big will happen in the world that shows how much bullshit it is that idiotic sheep on here gobble up, and then they go silent until they latch onto some new bullshit conspiracy theory. When it's not conspiracy theories it's just low effort edgelord bullshit.

Someone goes through the effort of making an account and their first reaction is more than likely going to be "Oh... bunch of edgy dumb fuck 13 years are in here."

And if someone points it out, the butthurt little edgelords use their downvoting abilities to to hide anything that goes against their low energy tiny dick posts. So, who the fuck wants to put effort getting past that 100 thresh hold when the people who have already done that are pushing their own stupid bullshit non-stop and trying to suppress anything of actual worth.

antiliberalsociety ago

First off, you had 4.9 years to try and make it better by posting quality shit. Second, you're making a lot of assumptions and generalizations by grouping Voat & the front page as one - something that is ostracized on plebbit. Third you haven't provided fuck all for proof on anything you have said, so it's no wonder you're being downvoted. Four, you keep using subjective points with nothing backing them, "it's edge lordy!" ...based on what? Why log in if you can't handle it?