What can be done? VITAL CHART proves that VOAT IS DYING and 33% of people and postings LEFT in the last 12 months! WHY is voat DYING? How can we make voat grow or stop dying? This is dire! Help!
Lower IQ users on voat.co (I think of them as "normies") will downvote the facts below but...
VOAT IS DYING! 30% less participation!
I feel very sad at the following numbers :
| Month |
Submissions |
Comments |
| January |
60,381 |
631,360 |
| February |
56,315 |
574,126 |
| March |
63,072 |
668,687 |
| April |
57,396 |
588,857 |
| May |
60,095 |
592,558 |
| June |
53,702 |
541,785 |
| July |
51,817 |
486,214 |
| August |
45,524 |
433,146 |
| September |
42,619 |
375,510 |
| October |
43,528 |
370,285 |
| November |
46,996 |
397,677 |
| December |
44,530 |
400,020 |
| Total |
625,975 |
6,060,225 |
Graph: Posts per month
Graph: Posts per day
source : https://voat.co/v/VoatStatistics/3587597
Some blame the paranoid feeling when the site says "what did YOU do?" and think voat.co is blaming them and blocking them in timeout perhaps.
Over half the higher IQ people have possibly left voat, as such people actively flee perceived groups of "normies" in psychology papers and books covering high IQ.
That flight will always happen regardless without a regular influx of preferentially higher IQ people.
Voat.co is very high IQ now, but it was much higher, years ago.
Evidence?
I say it based solely on the actual scientists in the far past commenting in v/Science and the actual highly skilled engineers commenting in v/Technology in the far past.
The fleeing poindexters and smartypants creates a death spiral that chases off more and more eggheads.
It used to be called "MySpace" effect, or the "Digg" effect, and now termed the "Reddit" effect. High IQ people migrate to web sites offering higher intellectual discourse.
The_Donald exodus from Reddit to here could have quadrupled voat or far far more, but toxic attacks via gay male porn flooded v/TheDonald, and they went and created a "censoring" site 10 times larger than voat called https://thedonald.win/
v/QRV, v/GreatAwakening, and v/TheAwakening brought up IQ level a bunch, but it could have been more if less overall fights and cliques.
Toxic anti-Q anti-"boomer" anti-Trump rhetoric by disenchanters has its effect in killing voat too.
It is common among primates and humans to gang up and bond together tormenting chosen group members.
The relentless attacks on Q by older goats here is unwarranted, though sometimes funny in the NPC context this year.
A few of the older goats seem to enjoy antagonizing "QTards" "Boomers" "Political heads" "Qoomers" "Knowitalls" "Qfags" etc that were flooding into their formerly semi-static space.
A token tiny percentage of Q members on v/QRV could not handle "niggerfaggot" and "kike" but for all I know, they were voat false flag plants to draw anger towards Q. I myslef had Q subversive accounts created on standby.
v/milliondollarextreme came and then went, as other reddit failed migrations dwindled.
Well I hope everyone is happy with keeping voat.co smaller and stagnating... in fact SHRINKING!
What are ideas to get users to voat without accidentally letting any real world people know you use voat personally (doxx risk). Shill the link on other sites? Shill voat.co?
I bet the ratio of CIA glowniggers to non-glowniggers is now at an all time high on voat. Hello Mr. Fed !
NOTHING else out there is as good as voat.co, or offers true FREE SPEECH as voat. I like voat.co as much as anyone, but I can read a death spiral chart.
Voat.co is DYING!
That data in that chart is legitimate and REAL.
Other sites might be enticing users away, that do not mind semi-censoring pig admins that infest these :
https://boards.4chan.org/pol/
https://www.16chan.xyz/pol/
https://www.dailystormer.name
https://endchan.org
https://nein<<removethis>>chan.com
https://notabug.io/t/all
https://nab.cx (light censorship for front page only of https://notabug.io/t/all)
https://phuks.co/
https://poal.co/
https://vnnforum.com/
http://niggermania.net/forum/ (good discussion of events on http://newnation.org/)
Who knows? All I know is the numbers in the charts do not lie. Voat.co lost 30% of its messages per day in one year of steady decline.
HOW CAN VOAT get back the 33% missing users?
HOW CAN WE BUILD UP VOAT.co?
If voat.co keeps dying from high IQ people fleeing, and Share Blue invading, I dislike the other semi-free-speech sites enough, that I feel I will just read it for v/Funny and v/News posts, not comments, and hate the universe.
THIS SUCKS SO BAD, and its so sad.
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Rasimov ago
I've had an account since alpha. I barely comment since for the most part there is rarely anything worth commenting on. It's just the same low effort shit over and over again, and a good portion of it is easily shown to be wrong if you took two seconds to google it.
Also, even though it doesn't seem that hard to do, reaching the vote threshold to have an impact on the content is hard to reach when it seems like the vast majority of the content on here is propaganda and idiots posting 4chan level posts while missing the irony of 4chan.
So, might be entirely wrong here, but VOAT is super non-friendly to new users and most content is probably created and up-voated by people with alt-accounts and bots.
chirogonemd ago
I think there is just a collective realization happening that all of our talk is pretty much bullshit. We say the same things over and over again, while the same things keep happening over and over again, and the rest of society parrots the same responses over and over again. The cycle keeps turning and all of our shit posting doesn't truly move the needle - therefore, it's getting boring.
Myself, I'm finding it harder and harder to get here and want to bitch about Jews continually. I've done it, and it is losing its significance. What I'm really getting at, is until something actually starts happening, people start doing something more significant than talking, it's just felt sillier lately to return to the same chamber to shout the same things. All of the so called "meme wars" and we are still about to walk right into Iran. Perhaps the better way of saying all of this, is I think the collective realization is starting to fall on the real stakes. All of the online chatter is starting to seem insubstantial compared with what reality is probably actually going to demand for anything to change.
antiliberalsociety ago
You've been here 2 years and completely missed the point. You aren't supposed to bitch about it here, you're supposed to take the knowledge you gain from here that's banned everywhere else and spread it to normies. Take it to the mainstream, THAT is where the challenge lies. Trying to redpill normies is the greatest challenge I've seen here, it's like They Live was a documentary. Spread your redpills and report back, THAT is what we're supposed to be doing here.
chirogonemd ago
I thought that was best achieved by bringing people here. That's how I was caught by it. That's how I've gotten others to see things from my worldview, by bringing them here. For me that has always been a much more substantial way to create change, as opposed to walking in to another echo chamber and trying to rattle off where everybody else is doing the very same thing: rattling off to be heard and to feel significant. I think perhaps you are misunderstanding the nature of the whole predicament we are in. All of the other "places" where you think you are redpilling normies, these places are inherently the problems in and of themselves, because they don't foster the sort of dialogue we mistakenly perceive that they do. For the most part, people in other forums have found themselves situated within a particular collective "dasein" if you will, each of these places has their immune system and their particular sense of in-group/out-group, I vs. other.
To me, the best thing we've ever been able to do was to make a person curious about this place, to use the psychological principle of exclusivity and the possibility that people who feel alienated by what they think might have a place where they will be welcomed. You have to make people part of a group. I just fundamentally disagree that going around throwing out data is really moving the needle, because we are past the point of any of this being strictly rational.
Like I said in my first comment, you've been "redpilling normies" for how long now, 3 or 4 years? How far have we come in that time? We are all still talking about the same things here, and in fact, the richness and participation are declining. I think you are seeing something that isn't there.
antiliberalsociety ago
I'm still learning just like everyone else is here. Bringing people here isn't the endgame, it's getting them to think outside the box. Very few people are willing to swim against the stream to find out the truth. Most are content in their lives, living out their days like sheep. This place isn't for everyone. Redpilling is a fine, delicate process that can't be done in one shot. If you link someone here, they'll most likely start shying away from you. What I do is take documents to the masses who are complaining about a certain political situation, or questioning why things are messed up. The Matrix is almost a documentary; "It's calling you, it wants to be found. It's the question that brought you here." Those personalities is what I focus on.
v/GeorgeLincolnRockwel 1965 speech on how to get political power.
Don't let the climate discourage you, BECOME the climate. I'm working on a project right now that's going to be normie friendly, and it subtly opens eyes to (((trends))) in theater. You asked how far have we come? The answers aren't on here, they're out there. Look no farther than Black Israelites, Stephan Molyneux, there's a ton of redpilled information out there because of little people like us. It's the tiny masses that makes the world turn. I never knew who Leo Frank was 2 years ago, now the ADL has to write cover stories to continue the lie, they're in panic mode, bombing and stabbing themselves to maintain victimhood status.
Don't you see it?