What can be done? VITAL CHART proves that VOAT IS DYING and 33% of people and postings LEFT in the last 12 months! WHY is voat DYING? How can we make voat grow or stop dying? This is dire! Help!
Lower IQ users on voat.co (I think of them as "normies") will downvote the facts below but...
VOAT IS DYING! 30% less participation!
I feel very sad at the following numbers :
| Month |
Submissions |
Comments |
| January |
60,381 |
631,360 |
| February |
56,315 |
574,126 |
| March |
63,072 |
668,687 |
| April |
57,396 |
588,857 |
| May |
60,095 |
592,558 |
| June |
53,702 |
541,785 |
| July |
51,817 |
486,214 |
| August |
45,524 |
433,146 |
| September |
42,619 |
375,510 |
| October |
43,528 |
370,285 |
| November |
46,996 |
397,677 |
| December |
44,530 |
400,020 |
| Total |
625,975 |
6,060,225 |
Graph: Posts per month
Graph: Posts per day
source : https://voat.co/v/VoatStatistics/3587597
Some blame the paranoid feeling when the site says "what did YOU do?" and think voat.co is blaming them and blocking them in timeout perhaps.
Over half the higher IQ people have possibly left voat, as such people actively flee perceived groups of "normies" in psychology papers and books covering high IQ.
That flight will always happen regardless without a regular influx of preferentially higher IQ people.
Voat.co is very high IQ now, but it was much higher, years ago.
Evidence?
I say it based solely on the actual scientists in the far past commenting in v/Science and the actual highly skilled engineers commenting in v/Technology in the far past.
The fleeing poindexters and smartypants creates a death spiral that chases off more and more eggheads.
It used to be called "MySpace" effect, or the "Digg" effect, and now termed the "Reddit" effect. High IQ people migrate to web sites offering higher intellectual discourse.
The_Donald exodus from Reddit to here could have quadrupled voat or far far more, but toxic attacks via gay male porn flooded v/TheDonald, and they went and created a "censoring" site 10 times larger than voat called https://thedonald.win/
v/QRV, v/GreatAwakening, and v/TheAwakening brought up IQ level a bunch, but it could have been more if less overall fights and cliques.
Toxic anti-Q anti-"boomer" anti-Trump rhetoric by disenchanters has its effect in killing voat too.
It is common among primates and humans to gang up and bond together tormenting chosen group members.
The relentless attacks on Q by older goats here is unwarranted, though sometimes funny in the NPC context this year.
A few of the older goats seem to enjoy antagonizing "QTards" "Boomers" "Political heads" "Qoomers" "Knowitalls" "Qfags" etc that were flooding into their formerly semi-static space.
A token tiny percentage of Q members on v/QRV could not handle "niggerfaggot" and "kike" but for all I know, they were voat false flag plants to draw anger towards Q. I myslef had Q subversive accounts created on standby.
v/milliondollarextreme came and then went, as other reddit failed migrations dwindled.
Well I hope everyone is happy with keeping voat.co smaller and stagnating... in fact SHRINKING!
What are ideas to get users to voat without accidentally letting any real world people know you use voat personally (doxx risk). Shill the link on other sites? Shill voat.co?
I bet the ratio of CIA glowniggers to non-glowniggers is now at an all time high on voat. Hello Mr. Fed !
NOTHING else out there is as good as voat.co, or offers true FREE SPEECH as voat. I like voat.co as much as anyone, but I can read a death spiral chart.
Voat.co is DYING!
That data in that chart is legitimate and REAL.
Other sites might be enticing users away, that do not mind semi-censoring pig admins that infest these :
https://boards.4chan.org/pol/
https://www.16chan.xyz/pol/
https://www.dailystormer.name
https://endchan.org
https://nein<<removethis>>chan.com
https://notabug.io/t/all
https://nab.cx (light censorship for front page only of https://notabug.io/t/all)
https://phuks.co/
https://poal.co/
https://vnnforum.com/
http://niggermania.net/forum/ (good discussion of events on http://newnation.org/)
Who knows? All I know is the numbers in the charts do not lie. Voat.co lost 30% of its messages per day in one year of steady decline.
HOW CAN VOAT get back the 33% missing users?
HOW CAN WE BUILD UP VOAT.co?
If voat.co keeps dying from high IQ people fleeing, and Share Blue invading, I dislike the other semi-free-speech sites enough, that I feel I will just read it for v/Funny and v/News posts, not comments, and hate the universe.
THIS SUCKS SO BAD, and its so sad.
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BrennKommando ago
Whoever makes the next similar thing should seriously consider throwing the sign up CAPTCHA away and replace it with an IQ test. After all the attacks Voat has withstood I never imagined it would be stupid users that brought the site down, but that appears to be the case.
Some of us is sitting on something that we may have to share with the rest of you shortly if we don't get some answers soon..
oaf ago
GREAT IDEA, especially if the test corpus is symbol based , and cannot be google searched for aid!
Maybe I can ask a buddy to make a 3rd party service that using http protocols can send back a "POST" message of a users IQ (hash of account name and web site sent to testing site)
It can be calibrated within reason such that it using 5 answer multiple choice, and 30 to 60 questions increasing in complexity, but generous with time, can cover IQs 95 to 142 with semi precision, and a optional second battery someone can take on their own volition, not meant for captcha that covers IQ 120 to 160. The trick is building a large enough question corpus. It would need 500 puzzles to prevent training for it suing memorization or web sites offering crib sheets. I have solutions to prevent that though I would suggest to designers.
You dont need IQs to be higher than 102, but you do need all users to have IQ 102 or higher to prevent s shitty site.
BrennKommando ago
I was thinking more in line of a 120 IQ cut off lol
To compensate for the reduced users it would bring, you could permit 'user invites' that would bypass the IQ requirement but also hold the users accountable for who they invite. That is if you invite me and I sperg out, both of us gets thrown off the platform.
Israel-Did-9-11 ago
OP and others in here are Defeatist Kike Faggots
SIayfire122 ago
Have limited posting accounts for unverified users. Something like allow 3x posts and 10x comments per day.
Deceneu ago
What do you mean by 'unverified' ? What 'verifications' would you like to perform ?
SIayfire122 ago
IQ tests. Is that not what we're talking about? They mentioned having an IQ test to create an account. I'm suggesting having an IQ test in order to have an unrestricted account.
Deceneu ago
I thought you were changing the subject to identity verification as for instance, Twitter.
oaf ago
IQ 102 would eliminate exactly 50% of Caucasians, and only eliminate 50% of Caucasian females, setting to IQ 124 would actually and factually turn it into a mostly male-only site, for at IQ 124 the chance of someone being female is merely 1 in 8 probability or maybe 1 in 7.
At IQ 172, all polymaths are of course male, all 500 or so historical polymaths. You get the point. Maybe life is not fair, and the sweet spot is as you say, IQ 120 or IQ 130, even if it limits female participation greatly.
MENSA admissions is IQ 130 and 2% of caucasians. refer: https://www.i3mindware.com/mensa-requirements
I personally could imagine a single sub-verse that allows READING, but not posting, unless a person has IQ 130. Every other site subverse could be at IQ 102 or 120 or whatever.
In no cases would a persons IQ scores from the unaccredited test "captcha replacement" ever be seen by any other user.
MENSA?
MENSA...The sad thing about mensa meetings is that you attend one or two and NEVER RETURN because the people in them remind you of how truly cringey some autistic people are, and you feel you are "one of them"
I met lots of people that went to only a couple MENSA meetings after joining, never to return ever again.
Every IQ club in the world is above IQ 130 (mensa generous cutoff), but they have almost no physical meetups.
autists will downvote me smearing mensa meetups on voat.co I think.
heygeorge ago
I understand. We were having a bit of trouble with new participants meeting the threshold so we’ve moved to v/diasabled to try to fill the quotas.
oaf ago
IQ 102 would eliminate exactly 50% of Caucasians, and only eliminate 50% of Caucasian females, setting to IQ 124 would actually and factually turn it into a mostly male-only site, for at IQ 124 the chance of someone being female is merely 1 in 8 probability or maybe 1 in 7.
I personally could imagine a single sub-verse that allows READING, but not posting, unless a person has IQ 124.
In no cases would a persons IQ scores from the unaccredited test "captcha replacement" ever be seen by any other user.