You're denying a page hosted on voat.co with a direct link to the edon.garden domain is legit?
This is some serious double-speak, Rotteuxx. The only place Voat has ever linked to the Edon "About" page is in the links you and @Deshy have posted here. No one has provided any evidence that any goat could ever get to that edited page from anywhere on Voat, including from "an old Amalek post".
Furthermore, the archives show that page was edited after Putt moved to the new About page. I showed all that. So, yes @Crensch, @MadWorld@Argosciv and I are absolutely denying that dead page is "legit".
Do you have any evidence to prove that anybody else but Putt could have edited said page ? <-- Genuinely curious about that.
The fact that Voat was severely DDOSed right after Putt moved to a new About url, during the period that Edon page was edited and Putt himself complained in the PreviewVoat chat that he had been betrayed by a "mole" is one factor.
The fact that none of those who pointed out that page can show how they got there is another one.
The fact that the submission introducing this "Voat is compromised" Edon narrative was deleted within 24 Hours and then the account submitting it was deleted the following week reeks pretty badly.
The fact that anyone who points out the bullshit being pushed on this topic, like Crensch or me gets brigaded and derided with spoof accounts and claims we are being paid definitely shows fear of what we are saying.
The fact those ginning up fear with this "Edon" narrative don't seem worried enough themselves to leave Voat is clear evidence they don't believe what they're saying.
Sorry fren, unless I missed it there was no proof presented that someone else but Putt had the keys to the kingdom and could have falsified that page.
@Madworld presented a very well written resume of his findings which led him to believe it was the only logical conclusion but that's not what I'm interested in.
"That's not what I'm interested in." <---- Logical conclusions drawn from the actual evidence are not interesting to you, but conclusions drawn from suspiciously unsupported claims are worth trying to scare people away from Voat. Sure. This itself is evidence of bad will on your part.
A person of good will would take the evidence of devious consensus cracking that we have presented and question the Edon narrative, not double down and dismiss it all while trying to silence it with downvotes.
You're also totally ignoring the fact that Putt didn't have to give someone access. I'm sure there are numerous ways government entities with deep pockets and an unlimited talent pool could gain access to Voat's code and tamper with any page they want to.
So it's far fetched to connect Kape/Pia/IF to Voat but totally reasonable to ssy the NSA hacked Voat.
Everyone on Voat knows how hard the Powers that Be have striven to shut it down over the years -- from DDoS attacks to Shareblue infiltration to shutting down payment processing to shutting down the host servers. It isn't even remotely far fetched to think government entities hacked Voat.
Your Kape/PIA "connection" on the other hand has been created using lies, innuendos, sock puppet accounts, accounts that were quickly deleted, phony compilations of "evidence" that don't stand up to scrutiny, and vicious backlash against anyone raising questions about it. All of these clearly point to a theory that is so weak it can't stand on its own. If your position was strong and true, none of these tactics would be necessary.
Anyone who is objective can look at this comment thread from beginning to end and see what I'm saying is true and not ridiculous at all.
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Crensch ago
No.
They fail at continuity of evidence-supported claims.
VendalayIndustries ago
You got ass-blasted in the thread with this lie, and now continue to posture. So pathetic.
Crensch ago
I didn't get blasted at all.
They do not have any proof that PIA is the angel investor. None. Not even a whisper.
VendalayIndustries ago
Why does that matter when Voat still leads to Edon, which leads to Imperialfamily, which leads to London Trust Media, which leads to Kape/PIA?
Crensch ago
That, too, was wrecked in a thread before OP's
Rotteuxx ago
You're denying a page hosted on voat.co with a direct link to the edon.garden domain is legit?
Do you have any evidence to prove that anybody else but Putt could have edited said page ? <-- Genuinely curious about that.
Vindicator ago
This is some serious double-speak, Rotteuxx. The only place Voat has ever linked to the Edon "About" page is in the links you and @Deshy have posted here. No one has provided any evidence that any goat could ever get to that edited page from anywhere on Voat, including from "an old Amalek post".
Furthermore, the archives show that page was edited after Putt moved to the new About page. I showed all that. So, yes @Crensch, @MadWorld @Argosciv and I are absolutely denying that dead page is "legit".
"That's not what I'm interested in." <---- Logical conclusions drawn from the actual evidence are not interesting to you, but conclusions drawn from suspiciously unsupported claims are worth trying to scare people away from Voat. Sure. This itself is evidence of bad will on your part.
A person of good will would take the evidence of devious consensus cracking that we have presented and question the Edon narrative, not double down and dismiss it all while trying to silence it with downvotes.
Rotteuxx ago
That's a lot of text to say that no, you have zero proof that someone else but Putt could have falsified that page.
You can pill pull all you want, your narrative is as unsupported as the one you oppose.
Vindicator ago
Pilpul is meant to deceive. Only one side of this is using deceptive tactics, and it is not me or Crensch or MadWorld.
It's you.
Why are you trying to smear and silence those who are raising questions?
Rotteuxx ago
Your friends are the ones resorting to ad hominems against me.
Only an utter fucking retard could interpret someone asking for proof as an attempt at silencing people.
Where is the proof that supports the narrative that Putt gave someone access to Voat so that pages could be edited ?
Vindicator ago
Right here: https://voat.co/v/Voat/3361289/19968746
You're also totally ignoring the fact that Putt didn't have to give someone access. I'm sure there are numerous ways government entities with deep pockets and an unlimited talent pool could gain access to Voat's code and tamper with any page they want to.
Rotteuxx ago
In no way does that mean he gave the keys to tbe kingdom to anyone.
As a matter of fact we never heard back from him on that, did he even hire anybody ?
So it's far fetched to connect Kape/PiaIF to Voat but totally reasonable to ssy the NSA hacked Voat.
Fuck you're ridiculous
Vindicator ago
Everyone on Voat knows how hard the Powers that Be have striven to shut it down over the years -- from DDoS attacks to Shareblue infiltration to shutting down payment processing to shutting down the host servers. It isn't even remotely far fetched to think government entities hacked Voat.
Your Kape/PIA "connection" on the other hand has been created using lies, innuendos, sock puppet accounts, accounts that were quickly deleted, phony compilations of "evidence" that don't stand up to scrutiny, and vicious backlash against anyone raising questions about it. All of these clearly point to a theory that is so weak it can't stand on its own. If your position was strong and true, none of these tactics would be necessary.
Anyone who is objective can look at this comment thread from beginning to end and see what I'm saying is true and not ridiculous at all.
They can also see what you are.
argosciv ago
That's exactly the submission I was planning to bring up lol. @MadWorld @Crensch