That’s not true at all. Regularly misinformation is posted here and often corrections aren’t offered either by OP or by the comment section, meaning people either don’t read the article at all or don’t look deeper for citation. Voat has low standards for accuracy on the whole, the only real strong suit is the lack of or at least very limited censorship relative to other platforms.
I never made that argument. I just disagree with the title of this post. I am not offering a solution to anything, I am not advocating for any changes. I am merely being objective. Have a fine day.
I agree with the... potential unreliability of things posted here, but that's what critical thinking skills are for. Theres bullshit everywhere in the world. Only difference is here, the bullshit isnt "edited for time and content"
As early as a year ago, this wasn't so much the case. Now, however, it does seem to be true. The smart goats don't seem to be as active lately. I wonder why?
Hard to say. I think the noise makers referred to as SBBH, CTR, ShareBlue, et al probably led to this. They've successfully made the website unpalatable, and the owner/administration has never really addressed it... or appeared to have the desire to do so.
The site also stopped making concerted effort to fund itself, funding sources of late appear shady if not at least opaque. The canary has expired. There are many reasons people might have lost interest.
I often wonder where they've gone. If they proclaimed it here, though, those provocateurs I mentioned would only follow. And thus we have a catch-22.
Maybe you're not one of the smart goats he's referring to.
There are definitely some users who's level of understanding of all of the small pieces the rest of the community finds/discovers/focuses on goes above and beyond - the users who put all the pieces together in various combinations in their mind and find high level connections.
The problem is, when these higher thinkers combine the pieces and find real terrifying stuff, a lot of the less capable users aren't able to understand the result, fear the result enough to mentally reject it, or just let the paid Tel Aviv and Langley joint task force staff manipulate the votes and character assassinate the heavy thinker enough that the rest become unwitting (see: ignorant) weapons against the heavy thinker.
It's probably contributed to why so many of the heavy lifters of high level concepts and ideas have given up and left over the years.
This doesn't have anything to do with what we're talking about. The topic is misinformation.
You may very well be correct in your assumptions. For sure I'm not the sort of poweruser that makes all these wild lateral connections to piece together incredibly informative posts about current affairs. The bulk of the best and brightest may have left to never return. I don't know. I've always thought the influx of younger users was the main contributor to the lowered quality. But then the quality isn't really all that worse from when I first came here. Maybe the PAO migration changed it, I wasn't here before that.
But it's not what we're discussing. We're just talking about misinformation.
I didn't mean to suggest that there wasn't unreliable info. I meant that in the past, goats seemed to call out the unreliable info a lot more quickly and accurately.
Four years ago there was also more thought out discussion but I guess that's a byproduct of being a small community; the signal to noise ratio is more ideal.
I don't think it's a coincidence. I think the noise is because there was thoughtful discussion here, and someone somewhere sought to muddy the waters for whatever reason. A free speech beacon is dangerous for those that believe in fascism.
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Womb_Raider ago
That’s not true at all. Regularly misinformation is posted here and often corrections aren’t offered either by OP or by the comment section, meaning people either don’t read the article at all or don’t look deeper for citation. Voat has low standards for accuracy on the whole, the only real strong suit is the lack of or at least very limited censorship relative to other platforms.
TheVOATangel ago
The users can call out the misinformation, that's not really allowed anywhere else
Womb_Raider ago
They don’t do so diligently. That’s my point...
tokui ago
That's the argument for statism: you don't know what's good for you, you need to be sheltered.
Womb_Raider ago
I never made that argument. I just disagree with the title of this post. I am not offering a solution to anything, I am not advocating for any changes. I am merely being objective. Have a fine day.
Creggieb ago
I agree with the... potential unreliability of things posted here, but that's what critical thinking skills are for. Theres bullshit everywhere in the world. Only difference is here, the bullshit isnt "edited for time and content"
justregtoasku ago
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zxcvzxcv ago
As early as a year ago, this wasn't so much the case. Now, however, it does seem to be true. The smart goats don't seem to be as active lately. I wonder why?
Womb_Raider ago
Hard to say. I think the noise makers referred to as SBBH, CTR, ShareBlue, et al probably led to this. They've successfully made the website unpalatable, and the owner/administration has never really addressed it... or appeared to have the desire to do so.
The site also stopped making concerted effort to fund itself, funding sources of late appear shady if not at least opaque. The canary has expired. There are many reasons people might have lost interest.
I often wonder where they've gone. If they proclaimed it here, though, those provocateurs I mentioned would only follow. And thus we have a catch-22.
Nosfewratsjews ago
100% spot on. The Tel Aviv and Langley joint task force, all Jews or Jew puppets.
FeLp2 ago
Probably all getting arrested lol.
Nosfewratsjews ago
Either sent to the Gulag, forcefully employed, or smart enough to realize what this place is and bail to avoid the fallout.
It's the ones that remain I find more fascinating, personally.
justregtoasku ago
human spirit old bean
Nosfewratsjews ago
We, too, live on the edge, sir.
HuginnOgMuninn ago
wrong, I've been here for 4 years (I have had a few accounts compromised). There's always been unreliable info here.
Which is fine, most of the posts are a goldmine if you just vet it.
Nosfewratsjews ago
Maybe you're not one of the smart goats he's referring to.
There are definitely some users who's level of understanding of all of the small pieces the rest of the community finds/discovers/focuses on goes above and beyond - the users who put all the pieces together in various combinations in their mind and find high level connections.
The problem is, when these higher thinkers combine the pieces and find real terrifying stuff, a lot of the less capable users aren't able to understand the result, fear the result enough to mentally reject it, or just let the paid Tel Aviv and Langley joint task force staff manipulate the votes and character assassinate the heavy thinker enough that the rest become unwitting (see: ignorant) weapons against the heavy thinker.
It's probably contributed to why so many of the heavy lifters of high level concepts and ideas have given up and left over the years.
@zxcvzxcv @womb_raider You know I speak truth here.
HuginnOgMuninn ago
This doesn't have anything to do with what we're talking about. The topic is misinformation.
You may very well be correct in your assumptions. For sure I'm not the sort of poweruser that makes all these wild lateral connections to piece together incredibly informative posts about current affairs. The bulk of the best and brightest may have left to never return. I don't know. I've always thought the influx of younger users was the main contributor to the lowered quality. But then the quality isn't really all that worse from when I first came here. Maybe the PAO migration changed it, I wasn't here before that.
But it's not what we're discussing. We're just talking about misinformation.
zxcvzxcv ago
I didn't mean to suggest that there wasn't unreliable info. I meant that in the past, goats seemed to call out the unreliable info a lot more quickly and accurately.
HndrxMn ago
Four years ago there was also more thought out discussion but I guess that's a byproduct of being a small community; the signal to noise ratio is more ideal.
Womb_Raider ago
I don't think it's a coincidence. I think the noise is because there was thoughtful discussion here, and someone somewhere sought to muddy the waters for whatever reason. A free speech beacon is dangerous for those that believe in fascism.
1_61803399 ago
Probably that Q-tastrophe that flooded us with gullible retards.
Nosfewratsjews ago
Most of them have bailed. The number of 4+ year old accounts that used to post daily but are not completely missing is Legion.
Also why we get high upvotes on low quality content like this self-congratulatory post.