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Crayonall9t ago

Thank you voat for telling me this when I joined earlier this year. It has changed my life.

Far2Long2 ago

I'm with you. The resources I've been directed to by Voat have sharpened my understanding of the Jewish Problem.

The more I learn about the malign depredations of the Jews, the more isolated I become. (((They))) are everywhere in our society, quietly dismantling what White Christians have built.

Blood-is-Nature ago

It wasn't white Christians, it was "white" Europeans. All three abrahamic religions are mass population control, based on hiding the laws of nature behind an unquestionable deity, and putting up new, corrupted laws to control humanity. The reason why people like E. Michael Jones, Farrakhan and Owen Benjamin can dish out against jews without getting killed for it, is because they unknowingly(!?) drive their followers back into the jewish indoctrination of religion.

And if you think atheism is the way to go than I have some really bad news for you...atheism and infidel means non-believer, which is defined by being against believer. Theses terms were created to catch everyone who didn't fell for the religious indoctrination with branding them anti-religious, which putts religion above them in a rhetorical way. It's a trap and it work marvelously to the point where where millennia later people still proudly proclaim to be atheists. The side effect that the jews couldn't possibly predict, but that changed the future for all of us, was that humans without a place to direct their natural faith at, will become hedonistic and will direct their faith in anything that self their own interest...and in comes materialism in the form of capitalism. This is why today Christianity is not needed anymore, because atheists are the most fanatic followers of capitalism that the jews could ever imagine.

Creggieb ago

To me, faith means belief in a thing, regardless of evidence to a contrary. It means that even when every single human sense says that a thing is unlikely to be true, faith says that it is true, and a "good" human will behave as if the thing is true, cuz faith.

In that context, I believe faith is a bad thing.

To me, faith can be a good thing, but comes with a demand for verification to continue believing.

Organized religion regularly and to actually fails to verify that the faith is justified, while regularly providing circumstantial evidence that the belief is either incomplete understandings, or blatant falsehoods.

Blood-is-Nature ago

Truth has to be ultimate and provable, otherwise it's a lie until proven otherwise. The only fundamental truth on this earth that can be proven to everyone are the laws of nature. Faith/belief is a natural trait, BUT in nature belief is always temporary, followed automatically by curiosity, which will lead to knowledge. Nature demands adaptation to survive, and knowledge is how we adapt, for which nature shows us all it's wonders so that we can learn from it. Unquestionable belief is a death sentence in nature because you would stop adapting to a world full of predators, and then you die. A great example is lightning...the first time a human or an animal experiences a storm it will believe the world is going down. This is based on survival instincts using fear to protect us. Now what happens next is curiosity about what the fuck is up with the noise and the lightning, which leads to the realization that the thunder doesn't bring harm, and eventually to the fatal knowledge that the lightning does. Another good example is a mirage. Same principle....faith, curiosity, knowledge.

Now by creating the concept of a deity, attributing all of natures achievements to it, and demanding unquestionable belief from the followers you generate a roadblock that prevents the natural path for knowledge. In natural terms, a predator used deception to lower your survival odds. This was followed by forcing upon humanity a new set of rules "the laws of men", who are all against the laws of nature, and thereby self destructive to anyone who doesn't know about the original laws.

Damnpasswords ago

What about your former belief in the holocaust? Doesn't that prove that secular beliefs are just as fallible?

Creggieb ago

Yes. all beliefs are fallible. That is why beliefs should be challenged, and critical thinking skills used to evaluate the likeliness that the belief accurately describes the observable world.

Regarding the holocaust, my position has, and always has been that Hitler definitely had it in for a lotta different groups. Jews were part of this. 6 million sounds way too high.

My family is Ukrainian, and even with the socially accepted number of six million, my victim status as coming from a group surviving the holodomor is at least ten times higher that of the Jewish.

And I get NO VICTIM STATUS AT ALL(Not that I need any because I am a capable person) so I reject the idea that I should care at all about a "tragedy" that is a pittance in comparison.