Both of you are lying and leaving out information in your posts like a fake news article/video on CNN. Putt looked at the downvotes out of curiosity to see if they were somehow connected to anything going on at Voat and they were - they were the vote manipulators.
And the full quote is:
Many of which will be banned shortly for previous vote manipulation.
You're an idiot and full of shit. And you're the Plebbit tier levels of gay with your BULLSHIT LIES.
It appears they are phrasing a very specific narrative while conveniently leaving out the type of behavior that leads to these bans and the effects this behavior has on the community.
The admin does not approve of this behavior. By posting you accept a social contract where you have complete Free Speech within U.S. law (same shit you could say in front of a Judge or Police with no consequence), and all you have to do is not be a bully and use your voting powers to prevent new users from participating in content or deciding you dislike someone, clicking on their profile, and loading up their other content that you would not have otherwise seen had you not gone on a pointed assault on that person specifically and proceeding to downvoat it just because it's a user you dislike.
You guys are hilarious. Voat is literally the only place left with actual Free Speech online (not even Dissenter gives the same powers). All you have to do is not be a bully and abuse users voting privileges in a way that runs them off the platform, and then you get angry when the admin makes it pretty clear that he's going to monitor and ban users for doing it.
You people who find this so troublesome are probably the same type of entitled degenerates who would go to a friends house and piss all over his toilet then leave it for him to clean up because you leave it for your mom to clean up your mess at home. Clean the fucking toilet when you take a piss in Putt's house or don't visit at all.
The act is not strange, it's only a surprise that Putt can see how people vote to someone that has a poor understanding of how the admin for anything they use can see everything they do, period.. Your bank teller's screen has more information on you than you can imagine. Everytime a cop scans your license he sees a snapshot of your entire history, with increasing accuracy every year. Your doctor can review all their medical and partnered records, merely out of curiosity if he so desires - because these are the expected roles to be played by the maintainers of things in positions involving privacy.
It's an unspoken privacy agreement and in four years I've never seen Putt violate it - so I have no reason to question that he would. Do you? If so, can you explain it?
I'm still torn on it though. If it was a system wide option then cool id enjoy that, I can sort of understand the curiosity -- but I'm trying to put myself in Putts shoes and I just don't see why he would actually announce that he did it. It does strike me as odd still, and honestly I realize people change over the years, I came here a naive centrist that would call out the racists and simply wanted to be here for the lack of censorship and actually resented that I had to rub elbows with all the racists -- and now Im one of them. I get banned for racism on pretty much every platform I join nowadays. My point is that I feel Putt has changed in odd ways, like how he phrases things, his formatting, and other little oddities. Zero evidence. I am simply stating my observations.
The formatting specifically in his stickies today actually sort of reminded me of Sanegoat, who I actually personally don't view as the devil incarnate like most other Voaters. But anyway, i definitely don't think Sanegoat has control of Putts account or anything insane like that, but yeah.
I understand why people are skeptical.
Thank you for including my post on your WhatYouMissed submission questioning why Voat wasnt discussing the Dissenter browser. I have been online for 25~ years and Dissenter the app seemed practically revolutionary to me, blows my mind that people aren't talking about it more here, even if just bashing Torba for appearing to potentially be Jewish.
Right here, plural not singular. It implies more than one person, and the other was Theo. In retrospect I should have just responded to "toobaditworks" directly as he straight up says I am lying and omitting info when all I did was say it is gay.
So I looked up the downvotes on this submission out of curiosity. Most all are destroyers. Many of which will be banned
You left off the information of why they are being banned. You insinuated they were being banned because they down voted Putts post. And now you're doubling down and saying you didn't do nuffin.
I've seen enough of your posts today to have a screenshot of the one where you admit to just fucking with QRV folks, which is the exact behavior we're discussing as being one of the reasons people have been banned and why it's such an extremely complex problem.
The only pass I see here is that it's QRV and QRV is garbage anyway so I don't care what you decide to do in it as long as you don't do the same behavior in Voat proper then I respect Free Speech and think you should do and say what you like.
Wait people should be banned for fucking with QRV? I thought people were being banned for vote manipulation. Did you just let slip some info no one else had Or are you just blatantly incorrect and hoping people get banned for hurting your feelings. Besides if you want a screenshot then check my bio, I'm wearing it as a badge of pride because it upsets you thinned skinned faggots.
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Mittermeyer ago
Plebbit tier levels of gay.
toobaditworks ago
Both of you are lying and leaving out information in your posts like a fake news article/video on CNN. Putt looked at the downvotes out of curiosity to see if they were somehow connected to anything going on at Voat and they were - they were the vote manipulators.
And the full quote is:
You're an idiot and full of shit. And you're the Plebbit tier levels of gay with your BULLSHIT LIES.
virge ago
It appears they are phrasing a very specific narrative while conveniently leaving out the type of behavior that leads to these bans and the effects this behavior has on the community.
The admin does not approve of this behavior. By posting you accept a social contract where you have complete Free Speech within U.S. law (same shit you could say in front of a Judge or Police with no consequence), and all you have to do is not be a bully and use your voting powers to prevent new users from participating in content or deciding you dislike someone, clicking on their profile, and loading up their other content that you would not have otherwise seen had you not gone on a pointed assault on that person specifically and proceeding to downvoat it just because it's a user you dislike.
You guys are hilarious. Voat is literally the only place left with actual Free Speech online (not even Dissenter gives the same powers). All you have to do is not be a bully and abuse users voting privileges in a way that runs them off the platform, and then you get angry when the admin makes it pretty clear that he's going to monitor and ban users for doing it.
You people who find this so troublesome are probably the same type of entitled degenerates who would go to a friends house and piss all over his toilet then leave it for him to clean up because you leave it for your mom to clean up your mess at home. Clean the fucking toilet when you take a piss in Putt's house or don't visit at all.
Hysterical ago
Cleaning up the trash is great, honestly. It's pretty strange that he's looking through who is downvoating him and even commenting about it though.
virge ago
The act is not strange, it's only a surprise that Putt can see how people vote to someone that has a poor understanding of how the admin for anything they use can see everything they do, period.. Your bank teller's screen has more information on you than you can imagine. Everytime a cop scans your license he sees a snapshot of your entire history, with increasing accuracy every year. Your doctor can review all their medical and partnered records, merely out of curiosity if he so desires - because these are the expected roles to be played by the maintainers of things in positions involving privacy.
It's an unspoken privacy agreement and in four years I've never seen Putt violate it - so I have no reason to question that he would. Do you? If so, can you explain it?
Hysterical ago
Oh no I 100% am not surprised that he can. That's something I definitely understand he is able to do.
That he actually cares who is down voating him just seems a bit odd.
virge ago
I'd personally just find it amusing. Can't see anything real negative here, other than maybe a bit of self-criticism.
Hysterical ago
I've actually called for all Voats being publicly visible over the years, so I guess I understand it to some degree.
It would solve a lot of problems if we could see the names of who up and downvoats stuff.
virge ago
Ding, ding, ding - we have a winner!
Hysterical ago
I'm still torn on it though. If it was a system wide option then cool id enjoy that, I can sort of understand the curiosity -- but I'm trying to put myself in Putts shoes and I just don't see why he would actually announce that he did it. It does strike me as odd still, and honestly I realize people change over the years, I came here a naive centrist that would call out the racists and simply wanted to be here for the lack of censorship and actually resented that I had to rub elbows with all the racists -- and now Im one of them. I get banned for racism on pretty much every platform I join nowadays. My point is that I feel Putt has changed in odd ways, like how he phrases things, his formatting, and other little oddities. Zero evidence. I am simply stating my observations.
The formatting specifically in his stickies today actually sort of reminded me of Sanegoat, who I actually personally don't view as the devil incarnate like most other Voaters. But anyway, i definitely don't think Sanegoat has control of Putts account or anything insane like that, but yeah.
I understand why people are skeptical.
Thank you for including my post on your WhatYouMissed submission questioning why Voat wasnt discussing the Dissenter browser. I have been online for 25~ years and Dissenter the app seemed practically revolutionary to me, blows my mind that people aren't talking about it more here, even if just bashing Torba for appearing to potentially be Jewish.
virge ago
I think your feedback would be welcome here: https://voat.co/v/ideasforvoat/3243355
Hysterical ago
Cheers, I'll definitely post there. Exhausted right now though.
Morbo ago
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win"
Which stage are we at right now?
Goys-R-Us ago
I'm laughing. This drama is really a comedy.
Mittermeyer ago
Where is all this shit coming from. All I did was call it gay and you are putting entire paragraphs into my mouth.
virge ago
The comedy of the Internet. Absolutely zero part of my response was about you.
Mittermeyer ago
Right here, plural not singular. It implies more than one person, and the other was Theo. In retrospect I should have just responded to "toobaditworks" directly as he straight up says I am lying and omitting info when all I did was say it is gay.
toobaditworks ago
You did this:
You left off the information of why they are being banned. You insinuated they were being banned because they down voted Putts post. And now you're doubling down and saying you didn't do nuffin.
Mittermeyer ago
That wasn't me. All I did was respond to that and say that is gay. Cite the post where I said that.
toobaditworks ago
That was your post bro:
https://voat.co/v/whatever/3242309/18831169
virge ago
I've seen enough of your posts today to have a screenshot of the one where you admit to just fucking with QRV folks, which is the exact behavior we're discussing as being one of the reasons people have been banned and why it's such an extremely complex problem.
The only pass I see here is that it's QRV and QRV is garbage anyway so I don't care what you decide to do in it as long as you don't do the same behavior in Voat proper then I respect Free Speech and think you should do and say what you like.
Mittermeyer ago
Wait people should be banned for fucking with QRV? I thought people were being banned for vote manipulation. Did you just let slip some info no one else had Or are you just blatantly incorrect and hoping people get banned for hurting your feelings. Besides if you want a screenshot then check my bio, I'm wearing it as a badge of pride because it upsets you thinned skinned faggots.