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Baconmon ago

Well, I guess we will see how long it goes with out being edited.. The longer it isn't edited, the more likely putt is under a gag order and having to do secret stuff he isn't legally allowed to talk about......such as removing certain posts, or revealing IP addresses and maybe other information etc..

We need a decentralized version of voat..

get-tilted ago

You’re aware that creating a website like this takes many hours of work, and decentralization would take no less than 2 years of development work?

chrimony ago

You’re aware that creating a website like this takes many hours of work, and decentralization would take no less than 2 years of development work?

I'd be shocked if something didn't already exist. The problem generally hasn't been a lack of options. It's been getting critical mass.

get-tilted ago

Yeah man, this shit is objectively hard to make.

Decentralization would be extra hard, for a few reasons:

  1. If anti-spam is ever implemented, it'd be damn near impossible to decentralize the servers without exposing the algorithms that do this
  2. Advertising on this website reliably would be hard, and would require a full dev team to create it (which they they neither have the money nor time to do)
  3. Banning spammers is either really hard or impossible.

There's a lot more, but decentralization of these servers would really do more harm than good. It would also sacrifice a lot of security principals for the sake of anonymity. And, if anonymity is the purpose, there are MUCH better ways to do this without sacrificing the CPU of all users involved in the project.

A lot of people talk about blockchain as a solution to a lot of things, but, in reality, it's really not a feasible solution to any enterprise-level application. It's not shocking that something like that doesn't exist, the blockchain is really nothing more than a buzzword techies in SF use to get funding for their app.

The sad thing is, true anonymity (with this specific website) would be impossible without distributing a Tor wrapper to access the website or an application that doesn't send your IP with any request. Even then, the government would still have the power to come in and say "hey, asshole, start tracking IP addresses," and we really have no clue how much the government can get into the TOR network. The only real solution is to protect your ass and use a trusted VPN, or use a os like Tails.

chrimony ago

If anti-spam is ever implemented, it'd be damn near impossible to decentralize the servers without exposing the algorithms that do this

This encourages a robust algorithm that can't be gamed. Instead of straight up or down voting, it should be based on reputation, and in control of the user. So you could rely more on those you trust more, and you should be able to revoke reputation. Problem solved, no centralized authority.

Advertising on this website reliably would be hard, and would require a full dev team to create it (which they they neither have the money nor time to do)

If it's decentralized, then there's no need for advertising. All participants would also be hosts.

There's a lot more, but decentralization of these servers would really do more harm than good.

You'll need to spell it out, then. Because centralization has always been the weak point.

It would also sacrifice a lot of security principals for the sake of anonymity.

Huh? If it's Tor-based, it should give you MORE security.

And, if anonymity is the purpose, there are MUCH better ways to do this without sacrificing the CPU of all users involved in the project.

Like what? And just how much CPU are we talking about here?

A lot of people talk about blockchain as a solution to a lot of things, but, in reality, it's really not a feasible solution to any enterprise-level application.

Blockchain is just one possible solution.

we really have no clue how much the government can get into the TOR network.

That's true of anything.

The only real solution is to protect your ass and use a trusted VPN

What makes you "trust" a VPN?

or use a os like Tails.

Which is just a bootable Tor OS, which means you inherit all the risks of Tor (minus keeping any local records).