For all the purported animosity between Jews and Muslims, it is important to remember that they are merely two branches of the same degenerate ideology.
About 15 yrs ago I was reading a newspaper, and an article mentioned in passing that some rabbis in Israel had begun advising jews that were planning on leaving judaism to convert to Christianity, instead of islam. At the time, I thought- wait aren't jews and christians supposed to be best friends. This didn't redpill me, but a flag went up in my mind that there was something not quite right about this.
Yeh, well, as an atheist, even I can tell that Christianity is a construct that holds white people (and Americans) together and imposes an imaginary boot on everything that the Democrats espouse today. It's an imaginary sword and shield against the SJWs, along the same lines as Jews use their religion and self imposed victim-hood against everybody on the planet. All of it only works if people buy into it, and unfortunately most people do. The tide is turning against Christianity, as the libs have people not buying into that and buying into their SJW platform (and their hidden Satanic system where they are the gods)....which is even worse. It's totally worse.
It hasn't always been that way. When white people unite to protect themselves and to destroy, they use Christianity to do so. It may be one of the few ways to do it. IDK.
Right now all I'm hearing from white liberal christians is how it is their christian duty to take in all the illegal immigrants no questions asked. Makes me want to fucking vomit.
You are going to argue that christianity isn't related to judaism or islam? You are seriously going to be so ignorant as to not know the commonality between the abrahamic religions? Open up your old testament and be enlightened at the connection between judaism and christianity.
So ignorant, eh? Tell me how Christianity was a religion before Christ was born. I've read the bibles multiple times, and every time I read the New Testament, it tells me the covenant was broken with the jews.
There was no christianity before christ. But it is from the Jewish religion that christianity originates. Judaisim is the parent and christianity is the child. Claim whatever broken covenant you want but you can't break the bond between child and parent.
Judaism and Christianity have very few similarities like you claim. Christianty is followers of Jesus Christs' teachings, not judaism. Proof is in the Holy Bible, which I doubt you have ever read. Shill a little harder, rabbi.
It's humorous when people call Judaism and Islam branches of the same degenerate ideology, but are triggered when someone points out Christianity is a branch of the same ideology.
almost as laughable as edgy atheists who systematically get triggered by any positive mention of Christianity and whose only rebuttal is a fallacious conflation with Judaic degeneracy
Zero substance or argumentation besides trying to instill an emotional response. How typical. Why don't you start by backing up your ludicrous claim that the message of Jesus Christ shares the same ideology as Judaism or Islam? Come on let's hear it and so we can all have a good laugh. I'd love to see you arguing about all the similarities between a vindictive Yahweh and a warrior prophet vs. the teaching exalting the virtues of unconditional love and compassion coupled with self-discipline.
Why would I give any substance in the context you shoehorned yourself into? I didn't type what you wanted me to type, without talking to you in the first place, and this is your argument? Jesus was a Jew who claimed to be the messiah, the Jews did not agree and a new religion was born(out of Judaism). These religions are refereed to Abrahamic religions(Islam included). There your answer. If you are unaware of your religions origins I can't help you.
Come on let's hear it so we can all have a good laugh. I'd love to see you arguing about all the similarities between a vindictive Yahweh and a warrior prophet vs. the teaching exalting the virtues of unconditional love and compassion coupled with self-discipline.
Similarities? First you said I was wrong stating the origins were the same, and now you are pretending I said the religions are the same? I don't belive you are this stupid which means you are lying which again tells me you are not very skilled at being a Christian.
Your parents never taught you not to make assumptions. This has led you to become a person who pulls strawman after strawman without the capability to detect it. My condolences.
Good grief I can barely see them goalposts anymore.
but are triggered when someone points out Christianity is a branch of the same ideology.
I'm taking this as an implication that according to you they are a branch of the same ideology, or that at least this claim is "humorous". I think that's a fair inference from your statement. If you're now trying to pretend this wasn't your premise then do state so, and maybe we can enlighten each other. Too easy to snarkily deride a statement without being liable for its possible rebuttal.
First you said I was wrong stating the origins were the same
Hoping to get out of your logical dead end by casually shifting words from "same ideology" to "same origin". Reddit tier sophistry I like it.
and now you are pretending I said the religions are the same?
Top it off with an non implied implication so you can strawman that one away. Never took an advanced math class have you? I don't remember the last time two sets with overlapping properties were identical. So no, that's not what I'm pretending you said.
Followed by low key ad hominem yet again completely devoid of substance as you slither away with your tail between your legs. Come on brotha, we're on voat here we can do better. But I guess I'll never know what's so humorous about Christians calling out what I claim to be a fallacious conflation.
From my comment he reads that I am: being edgy(false), atheist(false), triggered(false), there has been a positive mention of Christianity in this context(false) and I committing a fallacy(false). It's no wonder Christianity is a shadow of its former self with minds like this carrying the mantle. Logic(philosophy) is the devils work, right?
Yeah exactly. Why bother with logic when apparently all you ever will need to know has already been thoughtfully published for you in a book you aren't allowed to question?
I saw a video recently where a guy was walking around some city in Israel asking Jews whether they felt their beliefs were more similar to Islam or Christianity, and every single one of them either said "Islam", or "neither". "Judeo-Christianity" is a completely artificial construction (AKA a damn lie) created within the last 60ish years in order to pacify natural Christian resentment of Jews. This should be repeated any and every time you hear someone say "Judeo-Christian". It's a farce.
Christianity was a break away religion, especially at the end. The people of that time were in Samaritan lands, who also were not jewish, does not make it anything more or less jewish than it actually was. Jews cant claim it was both from jews and basically jewish, and that they want it gone at the same time.
Many do hate the Son of God one Jesus of Nazareth. What cracks me up is when a preacher goes on about chosenites when the folks he’s referring to are invariably Khazarian.
I totally agree . No matter how much you shake it the oil and water will separate. The Jews know the power of language. We need to use that weapon against them.
Zionist Christianity (Protestantism) goes back to the Scofield Bible in the late 1800s. The Scofield Bible was funded by the Rothschild family in order to scrape together support for the Zionist project by convincing Protestants that pasting together Bible verses in a certain way while ignoring 1800 years of Scriptural Tradition gets you to "the Jews are still the Chosen People".
Note that the Jews were the Chosen People in that they were chosen to bring Jesus Christ, the Messiah and God-man into the world. They then promptly rejected Him and killed Him.
Judaism is more than a religion, and TONS of Jews are "baptized Catholics." The Spanish called them "conversos." They founded the Jesuit sect, which Bergoglio coincidentally belongs too, and has been responsible for virtually every instance of poz within the Catholic church, in particular the universalist stance taken by far too many Christians.
Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews are a race unto themselves. They even have an ethnostate. Jews that convert are still Jews. Donmeh, for example.
So once again, is there any evidence Bergoglio is not a crypto-Jew?
St. Ignatious came from a converso family you dumb shit, and if you think Judaism is nothing but a religion you are a complete fucking tool. Why don't you go back to sucking heeb cock? Shits like you are the reason why Christians never stand up for themselves anymore
Even if he were, the sheer number of souls he brought into the Church would be an odd way for a Jew to play the role of a crypto. "I know, let me help win thousands upon thousands of souls for the Church. That'll show 'em!"
Well, exactly. The problem is the loss of any sort of theology amongst a lot of the non-denominational and Baptist types who latch onto anything that sounds legit.
Then you have the problem of the Holocaust cementing anti-Semitism as a heinous evil against the "Chosen People" of Israel. Never mind that "Israel" in the Bible was always used to refer to the Church, according to any sort of traditional interpretation.
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Podge512 ago
For all the purported animosity between Jews and Muslims, it is important to remember that they are merely two branches of the same degenerate ideology.
90126596 ago
Christianity is also derived from Judaism you dumb fuck. Jesus was crucified as 'king of the jews'.
andrew_jackson ago
Sorry, guy. I'm backing the Muslims against the globalists. And against ISIS.
Cat-hax ago
I am surprised more people don't realize this
TreblinkaRebuilt ago
About 15 yrs ago I was reading a newspaper, and an article mentioned in passing that some rabbis in Israel had begun advising jews that were planning on leaving judaism to convert to Christianity, instead of islam. At the time, I thought- wait aren't jews and christians supposed to be best friends. This didn't redpill me, but a flag went up in my mind that there was something not quite right about this.
dontforgetaboutevil ago
You can add christianity to that degenerate ideology.
llegendary ago
Yeh, well, as an atheist, even I can tell that Christianity is a construct that holds white people (and Americans) together and imposes an imaginary boot on everything that the Democrats espouse today. It's an imaginary sword and shield against the SJWs, along the same lines as Jews use their religion and self imposed victim-hood against everybody on the planet. All of it only works if people buy into it, and unfortunately most people do. The tide is turning against Christianity, as the libs have people not buying into that and buying into their SJW platform (and their hidden Satanic system where they are the gods)....which is even worse. It's totally worse.
dontforgetaboutevil ago
Christianity inspired the limp wristed suicidal liberalism of today. The whole damn religion is a bunch of sissies kneeling and crying.
llegendary ago
It hasn't always been that way. When white people unite to protect themselves and to destroy, they use Christianity to do so. It may be one of the few ways to do it. IDK.
dontforgetaboutevil ago
Right now all I'm hearing from white liberal christians is how it is their christian duty to take in all the illegal immigrants no questions asked. Makes me want to fucking vomit.
llegendary ago
I don't know why you are getting downvoats.....
Phantom42 ago
And it's my Christian duty to see heretics burn.
Turns out, there's a lot of fucking heretics.
dontforgetaboutevil ago
Good luck with that. Christians of your type I'd rather see shot. At least the crying and kneeling ones are just pathetic. Your an actual threat.
Phantom42 ago
I know I'm a threat. I'm glad to be. I hope you want to see me shot. I want you to try.
dontforgetaboutevil ago
Congratulations on being the dumbest motherfucker I have ever spoken too. I hope you get your wish.
antiliberalsociety ago
That's a funny way to say Atheistical jews
CarpenterforChrist ago
Says the one with evil in his name.
dontforgetaboutevil ago
Yeah exactly. One of my roles is to ensure that people don't forget that evil is watching and waiting. Always.
CarpenterforChrist ago
We know you are watching and waiting. That's what makes us so dangerous to you.
dontforgetaboutevil ago
Lol you think I'm the evil? Dolt!
CarpenterforChrist ago
You can't prove otherwise, so you just call me names. Your intelligence is showing, better run and hide. God bless!
CarpenterforChrist ago
Proof of your accusation?
dontforgetaboutevil ago
You are going to argue that christianity isn't related to judaism or islam? You are seriously going to be so ignorant as to not know the commonality between the abrahamic religions? Open up your old testament and be enlightened at the connection between judaism and christianity.
CarpenterforChrist ago
So ignorant, eh? Tell me how Christianity was a religion before Christ was born. I've read the bibles multiple times, and every time I read the New Testament, it tells me the covenant was broken with the jews.
dontforgetaboutevil ago
There was no christianity before christ. But it is from the Jewish religion that christianity originates. Judaisim is the parent and christianity is the child. Claim whatever broken covenant you want but you can't break the bond between child and parent.
CarpenterforChrist ago
Judaism and Christianity have very few similarities like you claim. Christianty is followers of Jesus Christs' teachings, not judaism. Proof is in the Holy Bible, which I doubt you have ever read. Shill a little harder, rabbi.
antiliberalsociety ago
olinneserpona ago
It's humorous when people call Judaism and Islam branches of the same degenerate ideology, but are triggered when someone points out Christianity is a branch of the same ideology.
notallvegans ago
almost as laughable as edgy atheists who systematically get triggered by any positive mention of Christianity and whose only rebuttal is a fallacious conflation with Judaic degeneracy
olinneserpona ago
Who's being edgy now. Try harder for fucks sake. When are you going to point out this
fantasyfallacy of yours?notallvegans ago
Zero substance or argumentation besides trying to instill an emotional response. How typical. Why don't you start by backing up your ludicrous claim that the message of Jesus Christ shares the same ideology as Judaism or Islam? Come on let's hear it and so we can all have a good laugh. I'd love to see you arguing about all the similarities between a vindictive Yahweh and a warrior prophet vs. the teaching exalting the virtues of unconditional love and compassion coupled with self-discipline.
olinneserpona ago
Why would I give any substance in the context you shoehorned yourself into? I didn't type what you wanted me to type, without talking to you in the first place, and this is your argument? Jesus was a Jew who claimed to be the messiah, the Jews did not agree and a new religion was born(out of Judaism). These religions are refereed to Abrahamic religions(Islam included). There your answer. If you are unaware of your religions origins I can't help you.
Similarities? First you said I was wrong stating the origins were the same, and now you are pretending I said the religions are the same? I don't belive you are this stupid which means you are lying which again tells me you are not very skilled at being a Christian.
Your parents never taught you not to make assumptions. This has led you to become a person who pulls strawman after strawman without the capability to detect it. My condolences.
notallvegans ago
Good grief I can barely see them goalposts anymore.
I'm taking this as an implication that according to you they are a branch of the same ideology, or that at least this claim is "humorous". I think that's a fair inference from your statement. If you're now trying to pretend this wasn't your premise then do state so, and maybe we can enlighten each other. Too easy to snarkily deride a statement without being liable for its possible rebuttal.
Hoping to get out of your logical dead end by casually shifting words from "same ideology" to "same origin". Reddit tier sophistry I like it.
Top it off with an non implied implication so you can strawman that one away. Never took an advanced math class have you? I don't remember the last time two sets with overlapping properties were identical. So no, that's not what I'm pretending you said.
Followed by low key ad hominem yet again completely devoid of substance as you slither away with your tail between your legs. Come on brotha, we're on voat here we can do better. But I guess I'll never know what's so humorous about Christians calling out what I claim to be a fallacious conflation.
dontforgetaboutevil ago
Yeah I always enjoy that bit myself. Its like watching a snake eat itself. Completely fascinating.
olinneserpona ago
This is a good one - https://voat.co/v/whatever/3084380/17244256
From my comment he reads that I am: being edgy(false), atheist(false), triggered(false), there has been a positive mention of Christianity in this context(false) and I committing a fallacy(false). It's no wonder Christianity is a shadow of its former self with minds like this carrying the mantle. Logic(philosophy) is the devils work, right?
dontforgetaboutevil ago
Yeah exactly. Why bother with logic when apparently all you ever will need to know has already been thoughtfully published for you in a book you aren't allowed to question?
antiliberalsociety ago
dontforgetaboutthelord
oneinchterror ago
I saw a video recently where a guy was walking around some city in Israel asking Jews whether they felt their beliefs were more similar to Islam or Christianity, and every single one of them either said "Islam", or "neither". "Judeo-Christianity" is a completely artificial construction (AKA a damn lie) created within the last 60ish years in order to pacify natural Christian resentment of Jews. This should be repeated any and every time you hear someone say "Judeo-Christian". It's a farce.
Durm ago
Christianity was a break away religion, especially at the end. The people of that time were in Samaritan lands, who also were not jewish, does not make it anything more or less jewish than it actually was. Jews cant claim it was both from jews and basically jewish, and that they want it gone at the same time.
CameraCode ago
Any Christian who believes Judeo-Christianity is a thing needs to read Gittin 57a.
Drunkenst ago
Many do hate the Son of God one Jesus of Nazareth. What cracks me up is when a preacher goes on about chosenites when the folks he’s referring to are invariably Khazarian.
CarpenterforChrist ago
You've hit the nail on the head. Now pound it home and spread the Truth. God bless, brother.
Hand_of_Node ago
Such a clever and insidious phrase. A huge chunk of Christianity has ended up practically worshiping the jews.
Phantom42 ago
I refuse to, and any "Christian" that dares to is nothing more than a heretic in my eyes.
Wazhappenin1 ago
I totally agree . No matter how much you shake it the oil and water will separate. The Jews know the power of language. We need to use that weapon against them.
antiliberalsociety ago
Didn't that come about around the time (((Pope Francis))) came to power?
MortonLoothorKodos ago
No it's been much longer than that
LexOrandiLexCredendi ago
Francis is a heretic, but not a Jew.
Zionist Christianity (Protestantism) goes back to the Scofield Bible in the late 1800s. The Scofield Bible was funded by the Rothschild family in order to scrape together support for the Zionist project by convincing Protestants that pasting together Bible verses in a certain way while ignoring 1800 years of Scriptural Tradition gets you to "the Jews are still the Chosen People".
Note that the Jews were the Chosen People in that they were chosen to bring Jesus Christ, the Messiah and God-man into the world. They then promptly rejected Him and killed Him.
@TreblinkaRebuilt
riffwraff ago
Are we sure he isn't a Jew? His parents were Italian communists who fled Mussolini and lived in a Jewish neighbourhood in Argentina.
LexOrandiLexCredendi ago
He is a baptized Catholic and by definition not Jewish.
riffwraff ago
Judaism is more than a religion, and TONS of Jews are "baptized Catholics." The Spanish called them "conversos." They founded the Jesuit sect, which Bergoglio coincidentally belongs too, and has been responsible for virtually every instance of poz within the Catholic church, in particular the universalist stance taken by far too many Christians.
Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews are a race unto themselves. They even have an ethnostate. Jews that convert are still Jews. Donmeh, for example.
So once again, is there any evidence Bergoglio is not a crypto-Jew?
LexOrandiLexCredendi ago
Anyone who is a practicing Catholic is by definition not a Jew. And no, the Conversos did not found the Jesuits. St. Ignatius was not a Converso.
Go watch some E Michael Jones and read some history before spouting off.
riffwraff ago
St. Ignatious came from a converso family you dumb shit, and if you think Judaism is nothing but a religion you are a complete fucking tool. Why don't you go back to sucking heeb cock? Shits like you are the reason why Christians never stand up for themselves anymore
LexOrandiLexCredendi ago
No. He wasn't.
Even if he were, the sheer number of souls he brought into the Church would be an odd way for a Jew to play the role of a crypto. "I know, let me help win thousands upon thousands of souls for the Church. That'll show 'em!"
Phantom42 ago
It's funny though, because I know a lot of Protestants that they aren't "muh Chosine".
Hell, Martin Luther knew it.
LexOrandiLexCredendi ago
Well, exactly. The problem is the loss of any sort of theology amongst a lot of the non-denominational and Baptist types who latch onto anything that sounds legit.
Then you have the problem of the Holocaust cementing anti-Semitism as a heinous evil against the "Chosen People" of Israel. Never mind that "Israel" in the Bible was always used to refer to the Church, according to any sort of traditional interpretation.
TreblinkaRebuilt ago
No, it's much older that that. From the '80s at least I think, maybe older.
MortonLoothorKodos ago
50s at least.
olinneserpona ago
Kikeo-Christianity @antiliberalsociety @oneinchterror Show this to everyone saying judeo-Christianity with a straight face. The second to last paragraph says it as it is.
antiliberalsociety ago
Thanks for that.